Strasbourg, 27 June 1944

To: Oberstarzt Professor Dr. Gutzeit

Consulting Physician to the Army Medical Inspector,

Medical Clinic of University of Breslau, Hobrechtufer 4

My dear colleague Gutzeit,

Many thanks for your letter of 24/6/44. I am glad that Herr Dohmen will

come here on 15 July. We shall then review all common hepatitis

questions and perhaps also set up the experiments together.

I cannot at present definitely answer your inquiry about human

experiments. As you know, I am working with Herr Kalk, Herr Buechner,

and Herr Zuckschwert. Naturally, I have already arranged with Herr Kalk

that we shall undertake that type of experiment with our material. I

must therefore first determine the point of view of the others

concerned.

I shall be very glad to begin work on the nephritis material from your

Oberstarzt K (?) [sic].

With best greetings,

Heil Hitler!

Yours

EXTRACT FROM THE TESTIMONY OF DEFENDANT KARL BRANDT[56]

_DIRECT EXAMINATION_

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DR. SERVATIUS: The indictment mentions experiments with hepatitis. A

letter from Grawitz to Himmler says that you furthered these

experiments. Did you yourself do any clinical work on this question?

DEFENDANT KARL BRANDT: I never did any work in connection with hepatitis

epidemica, for that would have been during the war, as before the war

this disease was not given much importance in Germany. During the war I

did not deal with this question because I was too busy with other

things, and also because such a purely internal disease, although

perhaps of interest to the hygienist, was relatively uninteresting to me

as a surgeon.

Q. Did you allocate research assignments on this subject? How about Dr.

Dohmen?

A. I do not know why I should have given a research assignment to Dr.

Dohmen. Of course the question of hepatitis was a question which

interested everyone, for it was encountered everywhere in the East. But,

for that reason I would not have given special attention to that

disease. It had no relation to other things which were of more interest

to me as a surgeon. I know the letter. I was told about it last year. I

saw it here again for the first time this year. It says that I had asked

Grawitz to have special hepatitis work carried out by Dr. Dohmen. Dr.

Dohmen, the letter goes on, was to obtain seven or eight prisoners for

that purpose and the lives of these prisoners would be endangered. It is

not clear to me in what connection, and for what reason, my name was

mentioned as the instigator of hepatitis research, for in all the rest

of the correspondence, and in all the other documents, there is not even

the slightest hint that I had any particular interest in this question,

or that I was so interested that I would have started the research. I

never really knew that the experiments were actually carried out, and I

never received any report of results. There are indications contrary to

the sense of this letter, especially when it says these experiments are

to be carried out on persons condemned to death. Hepatitis epidemica is

not a disease as dangerous as all that. I have inquired meanwhile, and

know that compared with malaria, for example, it is only about a fifth

or a tenth as dangerous. I have already discussed today my relationship

with Himmler and with Grawitz. I did not invent that; that was actually

the truth. On the other hand, it is interesting to note that in all the

correspondence concerning hepatitis, one year later, after the first

letter failed to have the desired effect, Professor Schreiber sought a

way to approach Himmler in order to have hepatitis research work

continued.

Schreiber was the deputy for epidemic control in the Reich Research

Council, so that I may assume that, for some reason which is not quite

dear to me, Grawitz possibly confused Schreiber and me in the first

letter. That is conceivable. The letter is dated 1 June 1943. A short

time before that there was a meeting of the Military Medical Academy,

and probably Grawitz, who was present, talked to Schreiber as well. In

any case I am not able to give any information about this question of

hepatitis, and certainly not about any experiments which actually took

place. I have no information; I received no report; and I have not heard

from any other source even now that these experiments were really

conducted. It seems to me significant that the witness Schmidt, who was

heard here, testified that the experiments were certainly not conducted

in Strasbourg, as Dohmen, who wanted to conduct them, was there for only

two or three days himself.

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[54] Final plea is recorded in mimeographed transcript, 14-15 July 1947,

pp. 10818-10849.

[55] Defendant in Case of United States _vs._ Oswald Pohl, et al. See

Vol. V.

[56] Complete testimony is recorded in mimeographed transcript, 3, 4, 5,

6, 7 Feb. 1947, pp. 2301-2661.

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