EXTRACTS FROM THE TESTIMONY OF DEFENDANT GEBHARDT[42]

_DIRECT EXAMINATION_

DR. SEIDL: The experiments on Polish internees were carried out in such

a way that, first of all, three series of experiments were performed on

three groups of 12 persons each. Is that correct?

DEFENDANT GEBHARDT: Yes. What I wanted to solve by means of this second

experimental group was the task given me in my orders, namely, the

testing of the drugs prescribed. I definitely hoped in these

experiments, which produced gangrene, that if there was anything in the

sulfanilamide drugs, which I had reason to hope, then the advantages

connected with one or the other drug would become apparent, and I would

be able to discontinue the experiments. Of course, I could not stop at

the initial instructions. I really had to go on to a localized and

definite infection, and for that there is an internationally known

precept, not discovered by us, which is to produce a _locus minoris

resistentia_—that is to say, the place of least resistance—where germs

combine with contact substances. So we did not insert dirt, glass, or

earth, cruelly; the dirt in the wound was represented by sterile glass

silicate; soil and textiles which would enter a wound were replaced by

us through sterile cellulose, finely ground. You all know that if you

cut yourself and a nonsterile piece of glass remains in the wound, if

you do not move the spot, it will heal with the glass inside without any

aggravated symptoms. The only effect it has is to produce a catalysis

for the germs and a local obstruction to the flow of blood, and possibly

to damage a few cells slightly. In other words, we produced inflammation

in the safest way possible for such an experiment. That is an

unquestionable scientific train of thought in this sphere. We proceeded

in just that manner and in addition, we gave our sulfanilamide, or

zeibazol 1., eleutron, and nitron. Two control persons, however, were

not without protection, because they were taken care of in the old

established way.

Now, don’t suggest that I should know the schedule or that there was

some schedule regarding the supply of sulfanilamide used. A schedule is

always bad in medicine because it is no longer original. One thing is

characteristic, however, with sulfanilamides and that is that you give a

big dose at the beginning, and here there is a question of whether it is

correct to introduce it locally or to leave it open. Someone might mix

it, somebody else might have a different combination and that is how we

did it. I would be a bad scientist if I were to write down for you now

that I knew exactly that they were all given in a certain manner on the

third day, or that they are all like this and this now. It states

expressly in Thomas’ statement, of course, that any prearranged table

for the administration is wrong, and that we also cannot prescribe the

correct way to apply these drugs. It was obviously clear that there was

a strong impression made by sulfanilamides and, even in the first group,

we were astonished to find a certain result, which is useful for the

idea as such, but not for practical purposes. Among other things we

immediately and simultaneously sprinkled a mixture of germs together

with sulfanilamide powder into the wound. That was the only exception

made in the first group and it didn’t produce any results at all. Now,

if I were a bad scientist then I would have assumed that that, in

itself, was a success. No matter whether it was the ultrasepsis or the

powder we had used, I would have been satisfied, and I would have said,

“Everybody now has to take a little bag of sulfanilamide along with him

and powder the wounds with it immediately because we know that if they

are inserted simultaneously into the wound—the germ and the drug—then

there will be no inflammation.” Only in complete ignorance of wound

conditions and war conditions could one adopt that point of view. The

disadvantage of the sulfanilamide bag is that a man who is badly shot

isn’t in a position to act; he would be lying somewhere badly wounded

and not be able to do anything. On the other hand, of course, the

position is that the surface of the wound can easily be powdered, but of

course not right down to the very bottom of the wound, and we know

particularly well that sulfanilamides when applied wrongly in this way

have caused injury.

Q. The second group consisted of the 36 women, 3 times 12 women?

A. Yes. Infection, plus contact materials.

Q. Is it true that the Reich Physician SS, Dr. Grawitz, on 3 September

1942, when inspecting Ravensbrueck, demanded that the experimental

conditions had to be made more severe in order to create conditions

similar to wartime conditions?

A. At the beginning of September, on the basis of my report, I was

called to Grawitz to report on the results which might be expected.

Grawitz, and as I shall explain later, Stumpfegger, came to me at the

beginning of September. Since Grawitz was coming to Ravensbrueck I

turned up on the same day, so that Fischer could demonstrate the

patients under my protection. That is the impression probably created

repeatedly by the testimony of witnesses; they have to wait for a time,

and then I say “These are the patients whom I operated on.” I assume the

same description was given each time. Grawitz was able to prove to me

that the effects were circumscribed and not of a war nature. And he was

able to prove to me that I had obtained no clear medical information,

only assumptions, and the clinical conditions resulting might perhaps be

expected after surgery at home. For another reason, which can be seen

from the documents, the argument became rather violent. Grawitz turned

to Fischer, who presented the cases to him. At any rate he then said,

unfortunately, that a speedy clarification had to be reached and that

wounds similar to combat wounds had to be created, that is, a gunshot

wound infected by earth and matter. Of course, I did not accept these

conditions and I looked for some way to get the experiment into my own

hands so that, using all safeguards, a higher degree of infection might

be brought about, and the cases might still remain under my control. I

did not want to give up and say, “I have not reached any conclusion,”

thereby impliedly giving permission for wounds similar to combat wounds

to be inflicted elsewhere. And so we arrived at the idea of tying off

the arteries of the third group, which is also a customary means of

bringing about a locus minoris resistentiae in international

experimental technique.

Q. You did not carry out the order then?

A. No.

Q. Then how were the experiments continued in order to create severe

local inflammation in warlike wounds?

A. We kept to our old technique, the infusion, that is an incision on

the outer side of the calf far from the joint, where it is not under

pressure, and where the cast does not hurt it. In other words, we chose

the most suitable place according to all medical considerations. Then we

administered the infection in a place where the circulation of the blood

had been reduced.

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Q. What do you know about the deaths, and why was there no amputation in

these cases?

A. I believe that I can remember the three deaths very well. But I only

remember three—I have always testified that—with all the things that

have happened in the meantime and all the patients I have taken care of.

It was not that Fischer or I overlooked an amputation, and it is

certainly not true that an amputation can save the life of the patient

in all cases of gangrene. As I remember the case histories, the most

serious patient had a large abscess on the hip. Probably the

corresponding glands had been affected. The infection on the calf and

the abscess on the hip—what can I amputate? One can amputate when the

infection is limited to the calf. We did not have such cases because we

forced the infection to the place where we wanted it, but we were not

able to prevent the infection spreading to a different area and running

into the blood vessel as does happen occasionally. There are infections

of the veins, and then the patient dies suddenly, and it is a definite

risk to perform an operation because the power of resistance is on the

borderline, hanging by a hair. If we perform such major operations to

save the patient’s life, then you may assume that we would have

undertaken an amputation, or would you assume that a surgeon of my

experience does not know when he has to amputate? Unfortunately that is

the first thing that an operative surgeon like Fischer learns in

wartime, to amputate in time.

As far as I remember, the deaths were from an abscess of the glands, an

inflammation of the veins, an inflammation of the blood vessels, and one

died from general sickness, in spite of all transfusions. This happens

in cases of infection when there is no possibility of stopping the

infection by local surgery. But one cannot conclude that any medical

measures which should have been taken were overlooked, because just by

seeing a case history from a distance one cannot decide that at such and

such a moment the patient should have been operated on. I am convinced

that in these three cases which Fischer reported to me exactly, which I

saw, and in which the therapy was discussed, that we certainly did not

overlook anything. As far as one can humanly say, we did what we

considered necessary.

I wanted to publish this result or to report it to the public from the

beginning. Therefore, it was obvious from the very beginning, if you did

not assume that I had any humane or surgical motives, that I did

everything in order to be able to publish the results.

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[40] Complete testimony is recorded in mimeographed transcript, 20

December 1947, pp. 838-847.

[41] Complete testimony is recorded in mimeographed transcript, 20 Dec.

1946, pp. 848-855.

[42] Complete testimony is recorded in mimeographed transcript, 4, 5, 6,

7, 10 Mar. 47, pp. 3931-4256.

6. BONE, MUSCLE AND NERVE REGENERATION AND BONE TRANSPLANTATION

EXPERIMENTS

a. Introduction

The defendants Karl Brandt, Handloser, Rostock, Gebhardt, Rudolf Brandt,

Oberheuser, and Fischer were charged with special responsibility for and

participation in criminal conduct involving experiments on bone, muscle,

and nerve regeneration and experiments on bone transplantation (par. 6

(F) of the indictment). During the trial, the prosecution withdrew this

charge in the case of Rudolf Brandt. On this charge the defendants

Gebhardt, Oberheuser, and Fischer were convicted and the defendants Karl

Brandt, Handloser, and Rostock were acquitted.

The prosecution’s summation of the evidence on these experiments is

contained in its final brief against the defendant Gebhardt. An extract

from this brief is set forth below on pages 392 to 396. A corresponding

summation of the evidence by the defense on these experiments has been

selected from the final plea for the defendant Gebhardt. It appears

below on pages 396 to 399. This argumentation is followed by selections

from the evidence on pages 400 to 418.

b. Selection from the Argumentation of the Prosecution

_EXTRACT FROM THE CLOSING BRIEF AGAINST DEFENDANT GEBHARDT_

_Bone, Muscle, and Nerve Regeneration, and Bone Transplantation

Experiments_

These experiments were carried out in the Ravensbrueck concentration

camp during the same period of time and on the same group of Polish

inmates as the sulfanilamide experiments. (_Tr. p. 1458._)

The defendant Fischer made the following statement about these

experiments in his affidavit:

“After the arrival of Doctor Stumpfegger from general

headquarters in the fall of 1942, Professor Gebhardt declared

before some of his co-workers that he had received orders to

continue with the tests at Ravensbrueck on a larger scale. In

this connection, questions of plastic surgery which would be of

interest after the end of the war should be clarified. Doctor

Stumpfegger was supposed to test the free transplantation of

bones. Since Professor Gebhardt knew that I had worked in

preparation for my habilitation at the university on

regeneration of tissues, he ordered me to prepare a surgical

plan for these operations, which, after it had been approved he

directed me to carry out immediately. Moreover, Doctor Koller

and Doctor Reissmayer were ordered to perform their own series

of experiments. Professor Gebhardt was also considering a plan

to form the basis of an operative technique of remobilization of

joints. Besides the above, Doctors Schulze and Schulze-Hagen

participated in this conference.

“Since I knew Ravensbrueck I was ordered to introduce the new

doctors named above to the camp physician. I was specially

directed to assist Doctor Stumpfegger, since, as physician on

the staff of Himmler, he would probably be absent from time to

time.

“I had selected the regeneration of muscles for the sole reason

because the incision necessary for this purpose was the

smallest. The operation was carried out as follows:

“Evipan and ether were used as an anaesthetic, and a 5

centimeter longitudinal incision was made at the outer side of

the upper leg. Subsequent to the cutting through the fascia, a

piece of muscle was removed which was the size of the cup of the

little finger. The fascia and skin were enclosed in accordance

with the normal technique of aseptic surgery. Afterwards a cast

was applied. After 1 week the skin wound was split under the

same narcotic conditions, and the part of the muscle around the

area cut out was removed. Afterwards the fascia and the sewed-up

part of the skin were immobilized in a cast.” (_NO-228, Pros.

Ex. 206_; _Tr. p. 774_.)

The responsibility of the defendant Gebhardt for these experiments is

also proved by the affidavit of Oberheuser. She stated:

“The experiments with bone transplantations were carried out, as

far as I can remember, at the end of 1942 and beginning of 1943

by Dr. Stumpfegger of Hohenlychen. I helped Dr. Stumpfegger in

the same way as I helped Dr. Fischer with the sulfanilamide

experiments, and as I have described already in paragraph 4 of

this affidavit. Before the operation I had to examine, as in the

other case, the condition of health of the selected persons. The

operations consisted of the removal and transplantation of a

piece of the bone from the tibia. Fifteen to twenty persons were

used for these experiments.

“The persons necessary for these experiments were requisitioned

by Dr. Schiedlausky from the camp commander.

“Dr. Karl Gebhardt was in charge of the sulfanilamide

experiments and bone transplantations. I do not know whether he

himself performed operations of this type. But I know that all

these experiments were performed under his direction and

supervision and upon his instructions. He was assisted by the

doctors already mentioned, Dr. Fischer and Dr. Stumpfegger, and

also by Drs. Schiedlausky and Rosenthal. Also only healthy

Polish prisoners were used for these experiments.

“I cannot remember that a single one of the experimental

subjects used was pardoned after the completion of the

experiments.” (_NO-487, Pros. Ex. 208._)

The witness Maczka, a graduate of the Medical School of the University

of Krakow and a practicing physician, testified that in the course of

her duties as X-ray technician in the Ravensbrueck concentration camp

she had occasion to observe approximately 13 cases in which experimental

operations were performed on the bones of inmates. There were three

kinds of bone operations—fractures, bone transplantations, and bone

splints. Some of the Polish girls were operated on several times. In the

case of Krystyna Dabska, Maczka took X-ray pictures of both legs and

discovered that small pieces of the fibulae had been removed. In the

case of one leg the periosteum had also been taken out. Zofia Baj was

operated on in a similar manner. Janina Marczewska and Leonarda Bien

were subjected to the bone fracture experiments. The tibia was broken in

several places and in the case of one of the girls, clamps were applied

while in the case of the other they were not. These operations impeded

the locomotion of the girls operated on. Bone incision operations were

performed on Barbara Pietczyk, a Polish girl 16 years old. She was

operated on six times. During the first operation incisions were made in

each tibia. During a later operation pieces of the tibia were cut out

where incisions had been previously made. Maczka took an X-ray of the

pieces of tibia that were removed. As a result of these bone operations,

Maczka observed the development of two cases of osteomyelitis, Maria

Grabowska and Maria Cabaj. (_Tr. pp. 1445-7._)

A rather large group of muscle experiments were performed. Here again

multiple operations were carried out on the same subject. Gledziewjowska

was operated on most frequently. During the first operation certain

muscles were removed and during subsequent operations additional pieces

were cut out, always at the same place, so that the legs got thinner and

weaker all the time. (_Tr. p. 1447._)

Transplantation of whole limbs from one person to another was also

carried out. Maczka testified that about 10 feeble-minded inmates were

selected, taken to the hospital and prepared for operation. She knew

personally that at least two of these persons were operated on. One case

was a leg amputation. Following this operation, the experimental subject

was killed and placed in a special room where the dead were kept. Maczka

was able to observe the corpse and saw that there was only one leg. In

the second case an abnormal woman was operated on by Dr. Fischer. When

he left the operating room he carried with him a bundle wrapped up in

linen about the size of an arm. He took this away with him. The prison

nurse, Quernheim, informed Maczka that the whole arm with shoulder blade

was removed from this woman. (_Tr. p. 1448._)

The amputation of the arm and shoulder blade mentioned by Dr. Maczka

obviously refers to the transplantation performed on the patient Ladisch

at Hohenlychen. As to this, the defendant Fischer stated in his

affidavit as follows:

“As a disciple of Lexer, Gebhardt had already planned long ago a

free heteroplastic transplantation of bone. In spite of the fact

that some of his co-workers did not agree, he was resolved to

carry out such an operation on the patient, Ladisch, whose

shoulder joint was removed because of a sarcoma.

“I and my medical colleagues urged professional and human

objections up until the evening before the operation was

performed, but Gebhardt ordered us to carry out the operations.

Dr. Stumpfegger, in whose field of research this operation was,

was supposed to perform the removal of the scapula at

Ravensbrueck and had already made initial arrangements for it.

However, because Professor Gebhardt required Doctor Stumpfegger

to assist him in the actual transplantation of the shoulder to

the patient Ladisch, I was ordered to go to Ravensbrueck and

perform the operation of removal on that evening. I asked

Doctors Gebhardt and Schulze to describe exactly the technique

which they wished me to follow. The next morning I drove to

Ravensbrueck after I had made a previous appointment by

telephone. At Hohenlychen I had already made the normal initial

preparation for an operation, namely, scrubbing, etc., merely

put on my coat, and went to Ravensbrueck and removed the bone.

“The camp physician who was assisting me in the operation

continued with it while I returned to Hohenlychen as quickly as

possible with the bone which was to be transplanted. In this

manner the period between removal and transplantation was

shortened. At Hohenlychen the bone was handed over to Professor

Gebhardt, and he, together with Doctor Schulze and Doctor

Stumpfegger, transplanted it.” (_NO-228, Pros. Ex. 206._)

Gebhardt admitted that he, together with Stumpfegger, personally

performed the bone transplantation operation on Ladisch. He testified

further that Fischer only removed the scapula, shoulder blade, from the

Polish female inmate at Ravensbrueck. (_Tr. p. 4235._) It is impossible

to raise the arm above the horizontal if the scapula has been removed.

(_Tr. p. 4235._) Gebhardt further admitted that Stumpfegger reported to

him on the bone experiments in Ravensbrueck concentration camp. (_Tr. p.

4235._)

The affidavit of Gustawa Winkowska corroborates the testimony of Maczka

concerning the transplantation of whole limbs and establishes that the

experimental subjects were later killed. (_NO-865, Pros. Ex. 231._)

The witness Karolewska was a subject in both the sulfanilamide and bone

experiments. (_Tr. pp. 833, 836-7._) She was operated on a total of six

times. The first operation was conducted on 14 August 1942 by Fischer.

(_Tr. p. 819._) Gebhardt inspected her early in September. (_Tr. p.

821._) She was sent back to her block on 8 September 1942, but was

unable to walk and remained in bed for a week. On 16 September 1942 she

was again taken to the hospital and operated on for the second time by

Fischer. (_Tr. pp. 821-2._) She left the hospital on 6 October 1942 and

remained in bed for several weeks. Her leg did not heal until June 1943

(_Tr. pp. 822-3_). She filed a written protest with the camp commander,

together with other experimental subjects in February 1943. In August

1943 she was operated on literally by force in the bunker at

Ravensbrueck. Both her legs were cut open. These operations were carried

out on five other Polish girls under indescribably filthy conditions. On

15 September 1943 a further operation was performed on her right leg by

a doctor from Hohenlychen. Two weeks later her left leg was operated on

and pieces of the shinbone were removed. She stayed in the hospital for

6 months—until the end of February 1944. (_Tr. pp. 828-9._) Karolewska

identified the defendants Gebhardt, Fischer, and Oberheuser as having

participated in the experiments on her. (_Tr. pp. 818, 830._)

The defendant Fischer participated in these experiments until at least

23 February 1943. On that date he carried out a second operation on

Zofia Baj. (_NO-871, Pros. Ex. 227._)

The most disgusting series of operations were those carried out in

August 1943 in the bunker. The Polish girls selected had revolted and

refused to report to the hospital. The barrack block in which they had

barricaded themselves was then surrounded by male guards who carried

these women off forcibly to the camp prison, known as the Bunker, where

they were held down by these male guards and forcibly anaesthetized

without any pre-operative care, and with their bodies still in a filthy

condition from walking around the camp. The experimental subject

Piasecka stated in her affidavit as follows:

“I resisted and hit Trommer in the face and called him a bandit.

He called some SS male guards who threw me on the floor and held

me down while ether was poured over my face. There was no mask.

I fought and resisted until I lost consciousness. I was

completely dressed and my legs were filthy dirty from walking in

the camp. As far as I know my legs were not washed. I saw my

sister during this time unconscious on a stretcher, vomiting

mucous.” (_NO-864, Pros. Ex. 229_)

Piasecka stated that this operation was carried out by Dr. Villmann who

was an assistant doctor at Hohenlychen. A few weeks later two other

assistant doctors to Gebhardt came and operated on her right leg.

(_NO-864, Pros. Ex. 229._)

In his testimony Gebhardt attempted to disassociate himself from these

experiments. He admitted however that he received information from

Stumpfegger about the experiments. (_Tr. pp. 4082, 4087-9._) Stumpfegger

was a former assistant of Gebhardt’s and he stayed at Hohenlychen during

the course of these experiments. Fischer assisted Stumpfegger and

Gebhardt. (_Tr. pp. 4230, 4090._) It is further established by Fischer’s

own affidavit that the plan for the experiments was worked out with the

knowledge and approval of Gebhardt.

c. Selection from the Argumentation of the Defense

_EXTRACT FROM THE FINAL PLEA FOR DEFENDANT GEBHARDT_[43]

_The Experiments Concerning Bone, Muscle, and Nerve Regeneration and Bone

Grafting_

The defendant Gebhardt is also charged in the indictment with particular

responsibility in the experiments, whose object according to the

indictment was the examination of the conditions under which the

regeneration of bones, muscles, and nerves resulted, and under what

conditions the grafting of bones was possible.

With regard to the general reasons why there can be no question of

guilt, I refer to the statements I have already made in connection with

the sulfanilamide experiments. These experiments, too, were occasioned

by conditions of war and were to open up new ways of treating seriously

wounded persons.

The evidence, however, has shown that the defendant Gebhardt, with a

single exception, had nothing to do with these experiments. These

experiments, insofar as they were concerned with the regeneration and

grafting of bones, were carried out by Sturmbannfuehrer Dr. Stumpfegger.

It is correct that Dr. Stumpfegger was assistant doctor in the clinic in

Hohenlychen before the war, and to that extent subordinate to its chief

doctor, Dr. Gebhardt. Dr. Stumpfegger, however, left in the early years

of the war, and in the year 1942 became consulting physician to Reich

Leader SS Himmler and later consulting physician to Hitler. The

experiments carried out by him in Ravensbrueck were carried out on his

own responsibility, and upon direct orders from the Reich Leader SS

Himmler. Dr. Stumpfegger at that time was neither under the military nor

the medical supervision of the defendant Karl Gebhardt. For the

remainder, Dr. Stumpfegger limited himself to carrying out experiments

in the removal and grafting of so-called bone splinters, the exact

number of which can no longer be determined now, but which certainly did

not exceed six to eight. These were aseptic operations, which

constituted no danger to the life of the experimental subjects. The

evidence has shown that the experimental subjects from whom the bone

splinters were removed suffered no reduction in the function of their

limbs. Besides, the examination of the transplantation process of bones

achieved a research result that could not be attained from the animal

experiments because of the variety of the stipulated regeneration areas

caused by the location of the various species and for the other reasons

given by Gebhardt.

The evidence has further shown that the experimental subjects were

members of the resistance movement who had been condemned to death and

who were in this way given an opportunity to obtain a pardon, and so to

escape execution. In view of the fact that no direct responsibility for

these experiments falls on the defendant Gebhardt, it is not necessary

to go into the purpose of these experiments further at this time. It

should, however, be emphasized once more that the experiments were to

open up new possibilities in wartime surgery and restorative surgery on

the wounded. In 1944, Dr. Ludwig Stumpfegger published the results of

his experiments in the periodical for surgery the editor of which was

Geheimrat Dr. Sauerbruch (vol. 259, issue 9-12) and this article was

also made available to the public in book form. I have submitted to the

Court (_Gebhardt, Fischer, Oberheuser 6, Gebhardt, Fischer, Oberheuser

Ex. 9_) a review of this work in the periodical, “Clinic and Practice”

of February 1946 and refer to this for the details.

The defendant Karl Gebhardt would certainly not have hesitated to admit

his responsibility for these experiments if he had actually been more

closely connected with them, and if the experiments had taken place at

his behest or under his medical supervision. There would have been

little reason to deny this responsibility since the experiments

concerned were completely without danger; they resulted in no reduction

of the function of the limbs, and, moreover, no fatalities occurred.

Furthermore, corresponding to the general practice in Germany, the work

of Dr. Stumpfegger under the scientific responsibility of the defendant

Gebhardt would have been made public if he had been directly concerned

with the experiments, and if they had been carried out under his

scientific supervision. Nor did the evidence prove that there were any

experiments carried out in connection with muscle and nerve regeneration

under the scientific supervision and by order of the defendant Gebhardt.

It even seems doubtful that any such experiments were ever carried out

in Ravensbrueck. The witnesses called before this court were unable to

make any statements about this matter and it may be taken for granted

that in any case the defendant Karl Gebhardt had nothing to do with

these experiments. There was no point in carrying out such experiments

as, long before the war, the surgical technique had already been

developed on scientific principles and set down in a system. It covers

plastic surgical bone regeneration but does not advocate free

transplantation.

The only new field of scientific research taken up by Dr. Gebhardt

during the war was that of experiments connected with nerve operations.

These experiments were, however, carried out on animals by the special

order and under the scientific supervision of the defendant Gebhardt

himself. I am here referring to the affidavits given by the witnesses

Koestler (_Gebhardt, Fischer, Oberheuser 22, Gebhardt, Fischer,

Oberheuser Ex. 21_) and Brunner (_Gebhardt, Fischer, Oberheuser 21,

Gebhardt, Fischer, Oberheuser Ex. 20_), and to the statements made by

the defendant Gebhardt himself on the witness stand. I am further

referring to the report of the Third Session East of the Consulting

Specialists on 24-26 May 1943 (_Gebhardt, Fischer, Oberheuser 3,

Gebhardt, Fischer, Oberheuser Ex. 10_) which I have presented in Court

and which proves that during this session he himself and the

aforementioned witness, Dr. Koestler, spoke about grafting operations in

cases of nervous paralysis. This is the same report to which the witness

Dr. Koestler referred in his affidavit of 27 February 1947.

Furthermore, I wish to draw the attention of this Court to the lecture

given by the defendant Gebhardt in the same report on “Gymnastic Therapy

and Mobilization of the Joints” which is also based upon clinical

experience in Hohenlychen and also has nothing whatever to do with

medical experiments on human beings. The evidence has further proved

that the defendant Gebhardt was concerned with the transplantation of

bones in one case only. This experiment was the free transplantation of

a shoulder blade from one person to another. The defendant Gebhardt has

given a detailed account of this on the witness stand and I am referring

you to his statement on this point. Generally speaking, the following

has to be added: The free transplantation of bones from one person to

another is one of the great problems of restorative surgery which has

yet to be solved. For decades, physicians have been trying to find a

solution to this problem. As early as the end of the First World War,

Geheimrat Lexer, the great teacher of the defendant Gebhardt, conducted

experiments along these lines in 23 cases, aiming at the replacement of

completely destroyed bones. The terrible injuries which occurred during

the Second World War made this problem still more urgent and it is,

therefore, understandable that in view of the progress Dr. Stumpfegger

had made in his research, he was ordered by the Reich Leader SS to make

use of this research result in the direct transplantation of bones. The

defendant Gebhardt himself did not take any steps in this direction. He

himself has stated his fundamental attitude as to this question and I

refer to his own statements. Only in one case did he give his approval,

viz: when Dr. Stumpfegger carried out the experiment of transplanting a

shoulder blade. The order to do this was given by the Reich Leader SS.

This experiment was justified in this particular case as it took place

for the benefit of a patient in serious danger. The experimental person

from whom the shoulder blade was taken was also a member of the

resistance movement and she, too, thus escaped execution. Furthermore,

the shoulder blade in question belonged to a hand restricted in its

function.

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d. Evidence

_Prosecution Documents_

Doc. No. Pros. Ex. No. Description of Document Page

NO-875 230 Affidavit of Mrs. Zdenka 400

Nedvedova-Nejedla, M. D., of

Prague, concerning experimental

operations conducted on fellow

inmates at Ravensbrueck

concentration camp.

NO-861 232 Affidavit of Sofia Maczka, 16 402

April 1946, concerning

experimental operations on

inmates of the Ravensbrueck

concentration camp.

NO-579 288 Phosphorous burns artificially 904

inflicted on inmates of the

Buchenwald concentration camp.

(_See Selections from the

Photographic Evidence of the

Prosecution._)

_Defense Documents_

Doc. No. Def. Ex. No. Description of Document Page

Gebhardt, Gebhardt, Fischer, Extract from “Clinic and 405

Fischer, Oberheuser Ex. 9 Practice”, weekly journal for

Oberheuser 6 the practicing physician,

regarding bone transplantation.

Gebhardt, Gebhardt, Fischer, Extracts from affidavit of Dr. 407

Fischer, Oberheuser Ex. 20 Karl Friedrich Brunner, 14

Oberheuser 21 March 1945, concerning

scientific experiments

conducted at the clinic of

Hohenlychen.

Gebhardt, Gebhardt, Fischer, Extract from affidavit of Dr. 408

Fischer, Oberheuser Ex. 21 Josef Koestler, 27 February

Oberheuser 22 1947, concerning Dr. Gebhardt’s

activities.

_Testimony_

Extracts from the testimony of prosecution witness Miss Karolewska 409

Extract from the testimony of the prosecution expert witness Dr. Leo 417

Alexander.

TRANSLATION OF DOCUMENT NO-875

PROSECUTION EXHIBIT 230

AFFIDAVIT OF MRS. ZDENKA NEDVEDOVA-NEJEDLA, M. D., OF PRAGUE, CONCERNING

EXPERIMENTAL OPERATIONS CONDUCTED ON FELLOW INMATES AT RAVENSBRUECK

CONCENTRATION CAMP

1. I, Zdenka Nedvedova-Nejedla, M. D. came to Ravensbrueck concentration

camp in a transport from Auschwitz on 19 August 1943, and I worked in

the sick bay as a doctor prisoner from September 1943 until 30 May 1945.

In the beginning I worked in the Department for Contagious Diseases at

Station No. 1 and the Ambulatory. Besides this, I was in charge of

Sucking Block from the fall of 1944 until May 1945.

2. Of the victims of experimental operations, I nursed personally Helena

Piasecka, who was suffering from chronic osteomyelitis after completed

operation of both shin bones. I knew that these operations were

performed under Professor Gebhardt’s supervision by Doctor Fischer, and

a woman, Doctor Oberheuser, from the SS Hospital Hohenlychen, but I do

not know which one of them had operated on Piasecka. The operation was

performed in the “bunker,” camp prison, where there were not even the

most primitive sanitary installations and even fewer aseptic

installations. Her general condition was good, but the defect in both

bones made her an invalid for life. Before the operation Piasecka was

completely healthy.

3. All women on whom experimental operations had been performed were

placed in one block and they were generally known as “rabbits,” so that

I saw the effects of the operations on those women who had survived

them. In each case of abbreviation of limbs, muscular atrophy of the

highest degree set in, proving a grave injury of nerves during

operations and deep indrawn scars where parts of muscles had festered

away.

4. From lay reports of nursing personnel without any special training, I

tried to construct the types of experimental operations.

_a._ Culture of virulent germs (streptococci, staphylococci, maybe even

tetanus and gas phlegmon) were injected subcutaneously, intramuscularly,

and even directly into bones. These were the attempts to produce

osteomyelitis experimentally. The resulting sepsis was checked by daily

examination of the blood and urine to test the effectiveness of new

medicaments of the sulfanilamide group.

_b._ Parts of long bones, as much as 5 centimeters (fibulae and tibiae),

were removed and in some cases replaced by metal or left without

connection. These operations were probably to prove the inability of

bone to grow without periosteum.

_c._ High amputations were performed; for example, even whole arms with

shoulder blade or legs with osiliaca were amputated. These operations

were performed mostly on insane women who were immediately killed after

the operation by a quick injection of evipan. All specimens gained in

operations were carefully wrapped up in sterile gauze and immediately

transported to the SS hospital nearby (Hohenlychen presumably), where

they were to be used in the attempt to heal the injured limbs of wounded

German soldiers.

5. Operations were performed on 1 Yugoslav, 1 Czech, 2 Ukrainian, 2

German, and about 18 Polish women, of whom 6 were operated on by force

in the bunker with the help of SS men. Two of them were shot after their

operation wounds had healed. After operations, no one except SS nurses

was admitted to the persons operated on, whole nights they lay without

any assistance and it was not permitted to administer sedatives even

against the most intensive postoperational pains. From the persons

operated on, 11 died or were killed, and 71 remained invalids for life.

6. The report mentioned in paragraphs 3 to 5 was prepared on the basis

of evidence given to me at Ravensbrueck in the autumn of 1943 by these

fellow prisoners: Sofia Maczka, M. D., Poland; Isa Siczynska, medical

student, Krakow, Poland; Jola Krzyzanowska, medical student, Krakow,

Poland; Krisa Iwanska, medical student, Krakow, Poland; Emilie Skrbkova,

medical student, Praha, Czechoslovakia; and Inka Katnarova, M. D.,

Hradec Kralove, Czechoslovakia.

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TRANSLATION OF DOCUMENT NO-861

PROSECUTION EXHIBIT 232

AFFIDAVIT OF SOFIA MACZKA[44], 16 APRIL 1946, CONCERNING EXPERIMENTAL

OPERATIONS ON INMATES OF THE RAVENSBRUECK CONCENTRATION CAMP

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Information concerning the experimental operations which took place in

Ravensbrueck concentration camp.

The operations were carried out in the period between the summer of 1942

and the summer of 1943. The operations were conducted in the camp

hospital, under the direction of Professor Dr. Gebhardt, SS

Brigadefuehrer. Professor Gebhardt was the head of the Hohenlychen

sanatorium at Hohenlychen (Mecklenburg). The operations were conducted

with the help of Dr. Fischer, who was Professor Gebhardt’s assistant.

There was also another assistant whose name I do not know. The following

camp doctors participated in this matter: Dr. Herta Oberheuser, Dr. Rolf

Rosenthal, Dr. Schiedlausky; all German nurses who were employed there

at the time and two German prisoners (Schutzhaftgefangene), Gerda

Quernheim and Fina Pautz, gave assistance. Polish political prisoners in

protective custody, from the transports from Warsaw and Lublin,

numbering 74, were chosen as victims. All those who were chosen were

young, healthy, and well-built women. Many were college or university

students. The youngest was 16 years of age, the oldest 48 years of age.

The operations were to be carried out for scientific purposes, but they

had nothing to do with science. They were carried out under horrible

conditions. The doctors and the assisting personnel were not trained

properly medically. Conditions were neither aseptic nor hygienic. After

operations, the patients were left in shocking rooms without medical

help, without nursing or supervision. The dressings were made according

to the whim of the doctors with unsterilized instruments and compresses.

Dr. Rosenthal, who did most of the dressings, excelled himself in

sadism. In the summer of 1943 the last operations were carried out in

the “bunker”. “Bunker” is the name of the horrible prison in the camp.

The victims were taken there because they resisted, and there in the

cell their dirty legs were operated on. This was the “scientific

atmosphere” in which the “scientific” operations were carried out.

All operations were carried out on the leg and all under anesthetic. The

operations were divided into two main groups:

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