Having received, by a courier just now arrived, a letter from Mr

Secretary Townshend, in answer to mine, which went by the messenger,

despatched from hence on the 12th, I take this opportunity of Mr

Whiteford to send you a copy of it. I hope he will bring good accounts

of your health, which I sincerely wish, and am your Excellency's, &c.

RICHARD OSWALD.

* * * * *

COUNT DE VERGENNES TO B. FRANKLIN.

Translation.

Versailles, September 25th, 1782.

Sir,

I have the honor to send you my despatches for the Chevalier de la

Luzerne. The packet is voluminous, but it contains many duplicates.

I should be glad if it were in my power to inform him, that our treaty

is in as good progress as yours, but this is far from being the case.

I cannot even foresee what will be the issue, for difficulties

multiply. It will be well for you to forewarn the Congress to be

prepared for whatever event may arise. I do not despair; I the rather

hope; but as yet all is uncertainty.

I have the honor to be, Sir,

DE VERGENNES.

* * * * *

TO ROBERT R. LIVINGSTON.

Passy, September 26th, 1782.

Sir,

I have just received your No. 15, dated the 9th of August, which

mentions your not having heard from me since March. I have, however,

written sundry letters, viz. of April the 8th, and June the 12th, June

the 25th and 29th, August the 12th, and September the 3d, and sent

copies of the same, which I hope cannot all have miscarried.

The negotiations for peace have hitherto amounted to little more than

mutual professions of sincere desires, &c., being obstructed by the

want of due form in the English commissions appointing their

plenipotentiaries. The objections made to those for treating with

France, Spain and Holland were first removed, and by the enclosed[5]

it seems that our objections to that for treating with us will now be

removed also, so that we expect to begin in a few days our

negotiations. But there are so many interests to be considered and

settled, in a peace between five different nations, that it will be

well not to flatter ourselves with a very speedy conclusion.

I mentioned, in a former letter, my having communicated to Count de

Vergennes the state of American commerce, which you sent me, and my

having urged its consideration, &c. Enclosed is a copy of a letter

received from that Minister on the subject.

The copy of General Carleton's letter, and the bills of exchange,

which you mentioned as enclosed, do not appear. I hope soon to have a

better opportunity of writing, when I shall be fuller.

With great esteem, &c.

B. FRANKLIN.

FOOTNOTE:

[5] This refers to Mr Oswald's commission, which will be found in the

Correspondence of the Commissioners for negotiating peace.

* * * * *

COUNT DE VERGENNES TO B. FRANKLIN.

Translation.

Versailles, October 3d, 1782.

Sir,

I have the honor to return you the commission appointing Thomas

Barclay consul of the United States, to reside in France, and I

endorse the exequatur, which is requisite for the exercise of his

functions. I must inform you, that the latter of these will require

the Admiral's signature previously to its being registered, either by

the Secretary of the Admiralty at L'Orient, where Mr Barclay intends

to fix his residence, or by those of other ports of the kingdom, where

commercial considerations may require his presence.

I have the honor to be, &c.

DE VERGENNES.

* * * * *

DAVID HARTLEY TO B. FRANKLIN.

Bath, October 4th, 1782.

My Dear Friend,

I only write one line to you, to let you know that I am not forgetful

of you, or of our common concerns. I have not heard anything from the

Ministry yet; I believe it is a kind of vacation with them, before the

meeting of Parliament. I have told you of a proposition, which I have

had some thoughts to make as a kind of copartnership in commerce. I

send you a purposed temporary convention, which I have drawn up. You

are to consider it only as one I recommend. The words underlined are

grafted upon the proposition of my Memorial, dated May 19th, 1778. You

will see the principle, which I have in my thoughts to extend for the

purpose of restoring our ancient copartnership generally.

I cannot tell you what event things may take, but my thoughts are

always employed in endeavoring to arrange that system upon which the

_China Vase_, lately shattered, may be cemented together, upon

principles of compact and connexion, instead of dependence.

I have met with a sentiment in this country which gives some alarm,

viz. lest the unity of government in America should be uncertain, and

the States reject the authority of Congress. Some passages in General

Washington's letter have given weight to these doubts. I do not hear

of any tendency to this opinion; _that the American States will break

to pieces, and then we may still conquer them_. I believe all that

folly is extinguished. But many serious and well disposed persons are

alarmed, lest _this should be the ill-fated moment for relaxing the

powers of the union, and annihilating the cement of confederation_,

(_vide_ Washington's letter,) and that Great Britain should thereby

lose her best and wisest hope of being reconnected with the American

States _unitedly_. I should for one think it the greatest misfortune.

Pray give me some opinion upon this.

You see there is likewise another turn, which may be given to this

sentiment by intemperate and disappointed people, who may indulge a

passionate revenge for their own disappointments, by endeavoring to

excite general distrust, discord, and disunion. I wish to be prepared

and guarded at all points.

I beg my best compliments to your colleagues; be so good as to show

this letter to them. I beg particularly my condolence (and I hope

congratulation) to Mr Adams; I hear that he has been very dangerously

ill, but that he is again recovered. I hope the latter part is true,

and that we shall all survive to set our hands to some future compacts

of common interest, and common affection, between our two countries.

Your ever affectionate,

D. HARTLEY.

* * * * *

TO ROBERT R. LIVINGSTON.

Passy, October 14th, 1782.

Sir,

I have but just received information of this opportunity, and have

only time allowed to write a few lines.

In my last of the 26th past, I mentioned that the negotiation for

peace had been obstructed, by the want of due form in the English

commissions appointing their plenipotentiaries. In that for treating

with us, the mentioning our States by their public name had been

avoided, which we objected to; another is come, of which I send a copy

enclosed. We have now made several preliminary propositions, which the

English Minister, Mr Oswald, has approved, and sent to his Court. He

thinks they will be approved there, but I have some doubts. In a few

days, however, the answer expected will determine. By the first of

these articles, the King of Great Britain renounces for himself and

successors, all claim and pretension to dominion or territory within

the Thirteen United States; and the boundaries are described as in our

instructions, except that the line between Nova Scotia and New England

is to be settled by Commissioners after the peace. By another article,

the fishery in the American seas is to be freely exercised by the

Americans, wherever they might formerly exercise it while united with

Great Britain. By another, the citizens and subjects of each nation

are to enjoy the same protection and privileges, in each others' ports

and countries, respecting commerce, duties, &c. that are enjoyed by

native subjects. The articles are drawn up very fully by Mr Jay, who I

suppose sends you a copy; if not, it will go by the next opportunity.

If these articles are agreed to, I apprehend little difficulty in the

rest. Something has been mentioned about the refugees and English

debts, but not insisted on, as we declared at once, that whatever

confiscations had been made in America, being in virtue of the laws of

particular States, the Congress had no authority to repeal those laws,

and therefore could give us none to stipulate for such repeal.

I have been honored with the receipt of your letters, Nos 14 and 15. I

have also received two letters from Mr Lewis R. Morris, both dated

the 6th of July, and one dated the 10th of August, enclosing bills for

68,290 livres,

71,380

9,756

-------

In all 149,426 livres,

being intended for the payment of Ministers' salaries for the two

first quarters of this year. But as these bills came so late, that all

those salaries were already paid, I shall make no use of the bills,

but lay them by till further orders; and the salaries of different

Ministers not having all the same times of falling due, as they had

different commencements, I purpose to get all their accounts settled

and reduced to the same period, and send you the state of them, that

you may be clear in future orders. I see in one of the estimates sent

me, that a quarter's salary of a Minister is reckoned at 14,513

livres, in the other it is reckoned 16,667 livres, and the bill for

9,756[6] livres is mentioned as intended to pay a balance due on the

remittance of the 68,290 livres. Being unacquainted with the state of

your exchange, I do not well comprehend this, and therefore leave the

whole for the present, as I have said above. Permit me only to hint

for your consideration, whether it may not be well hereafter to omit

mention of sterling, in our appointments, since we have severed from

the country to which that denomination of money is peculiar; and also

to order the payment of your Ministers in such a manner, that they may

know exactly what they are to receive, and not be subject to the

fluctuations of exchange. If it is that, which occasions the

difference between 14,583 for the first quarter, and the 16,667 for

the second, it is considerable. I think we have no right to any

advantage by the exchange, nor should we be liable to any loss from

it. Hitherto we have taken 15,000 for a quarter, (subject however to

the allowance or disallowance of Congress) which is lower than the

medium between those two extremes.

The different accounts given of Lord Shelburne's character, with

respect to sincerity, induced the Ministry here to send over M. de

Rayneval, Secretary to the Council, to converse with him, and endeavor

to form by that means a more perfect judgment of what was to be

expected from the negotiations. He was five or six days in England,

saw all the Ministers, and returned quite satisfied, that they are

sincerely desirous of peace, so that the negotiations now go on with

some prospect of success. But the Court and people of England are very

changeable. A little turn of fortune in their favor sometimes turns

their heads; and I shall not think a speedy peace to be depended on,

till I see the treaties signed. I am obliged to finish.

With great esteem, &c.

B. FRANKLIN.

FOOTNOTE:

[6] This was not merely to pay a balance, but an excess on account of

contingencies. _Note by Mr Livingston_.

* * * * *

TO JOHN ADAMS.

Passy, October 15th, 1782.

Sir,

A long and painful illness has prevented my corresponding with your

Excellency regularly.

Mr Jay has, I believe, acquainted you with the obstructions our peace

negotiations have met with, and that they are at length removed. By

the next courier expected from London, we may be able perhaps to form

some judgment of the probability of success, so far as relates to our

part of the peace. How likely the other powers are to settle their

pretensions, I cannot yet learn. In the mean time, America is

gradually growing more easy, by the enemy's evacuation of their posts;

as you will see by some intelligence I enclose.

With great respect, I have the honor to be, &c.

B. FRANKLIN.

* * * * *

FROM T. TOWNSHEND TO B. FRANKLIN.

Whitehall, October 23d, 1782.

Sir,

As Mr Strachey is going from hence to Paris, with some particulars for

Mr Oswald, which were not easily to be explained in writing, I take

the liberty of introducing him to your acquaintance, though I am not

sure that he is not a little known to you. The confidential situation

in which he stands with me, makes me particularly desirous of

presenting him to you.

I believe, Sir, I am enough known to you, for you to believe me, when

I say, that there has not been from the beginning a single person more

averse to the unhappy war, or who wishes more earnestly than I do, for

a return of peace and mutual amity between Great Britain and America.

I am, with great regard, Sir, your most obedient humble servant,

T. TOWNSHEND.

* * * * *

TO THOMAS TOWNSHEND.

Passy, November 4th, 1782.

Sir,

I received the letter you did me the honor of writing to me by Mr

Strachey, and was much pleased with the opportunity it gave me of

renewing and increasing my acquaintance with a gentleman of so amiable

and deserving a character.

I am sensible you have ever been averse to the measures that brought

on this unhappy war; I have, therefore, no doubt of the sincerity of

your wishes for a return of peace. Mine are equally earnest. Nothing,

therefore, except the beginning of the war, has given me more concern

than to learn at the conclusion of our conferences, that it is not

likely to be soon ended. Be assured, no endeavors on my part would be

wanting to remove any difficulties that may have arisen, or even if a

peace were made, to procure afterwards any changes in the treaty that

might tend to render it more perfect, and the peace more durable. But

we, who are here at so great a distance from our constituents, have

not the possibility of obtaining in a few days fresh instructions, as

is the case with your negotiators, and are therefore obliged to insist

on what is conformable to those we have, and at the same time appears

to us just and reasonable.

With great esteem and respect, I have the honor to be, Sir, &c.

B. FRANKLIN.

* * * * *

TO ROBERT R. LIVINGSTON.

Passy, November 7th, 1782.

Sir,

The Baron de Kermelin, a Swedish gentleman of distinction, recommended

strongly to me by his Excellency, the Ambassador of that nation to

this Court, as a person highly esteemed in his own, purposes a journey

through North America, to view its natural productions, acquaint

himself with its commerce, and acquire such information as may be

useful to his country, in the communication and connexion of interests

that seem to be growing, and probably may soon become considerable

between the two nations. I therefore beg leave to introduce him to

you, and request that you would present him to the President of

Congress, and to such other persons as you shall think may be useful

to him in his views, and I recommend him earnestly to those

civilities, which you have a pleasure in showing to strangers of

merit.

I have the honor to be, &c.

B. FRANKLIN.

* * * * *

ROBERT R. LIVINGSTON TO B. FRANKLIN.

Philadelphia, November 9th, 1782.

Dear Sir,

Mr Stewart, informing me that he shall set out tomorrow for Paris,

will be the bearer of this, and duplicates of my last letters. The

want of time will prevent my sending Mr Jay duplicates of the

resolutions formerly enclosed to him, which will be the more

unnecessary as you will communicate those you receive with this, if my

former letters containing them, have not reached him.

We are much flattered by the proposals of Sweden, and feel all the

force of its Minister's observations; every new acknowledgment lays

the foundation of others, and familiarizes Great Britain with the idea

of acknowledging us as sovereign and independent. I feel some

pleasure, too, in thinking that you are to be the instrument of

procuring us new connexions, and beg leave to remind you of another

which calls upon your attention, though it seems to have been

forgotten in the hurry of business. I mean that with the States of

Barbary. The good dispositions of the Court of France towards us, and

the enlarged policy by which their measures are actuated, together

with the coolness that at present subsists between the Emperor of

Morocco and Great Britain, (if we are well informed) seem to point out

this as the favorable moment for making ourselves known to him. As Mr

Jay is now with you, I wish you would consult upon the means of

bringing this about, so that we may not be shut out of the

Mediterranean in future.

I know you will start a very obvious objection. But as this can only

be removed by your influence where you now are, we rely upon you for

the means as well as for the manner of treating. I have not thought it

necessary to say anything to Congress on this subject, nor shall I,

till you give me hopes that something may be done in it.

The only political object of a general nature, that has been touched

upon in Congress since my last, is the exchange of prisoners, which

seems at present to be as far as ever from being effected. The

propositions on the side of the enemy were to exchange seamen for

soldiers, they having no soldiers in their hands; that the soldiers so

exchanged should not serve for one year against the United States;

that the sailors might go into immediate service; that the remainder

of the soldiers in our hands should be given up at a stipulated price.

Congress rejected this proposal as unequal; as letting loose a force,

which might be employed against our allies in the West Indies; as

making no provision for the payment of the large balance due to us for

the maintenance of prisoners. They further required, that General

Carleton should explicitly declare, that the powers he gives to his

Commissioners for negotiating an exchange are derived from the King of

Great Britain, so that any engagement for the payment of the debt they

have incurred may be considered as binding upon the nation. With

respect to Mr Laurens, they have come to no decided opinion. The

Committee to whom it was referred, reporting that,

"With respect to the information contained in the extract of Sir Guy

Carleton's and Admiral Digby's letter of the 2d of August, '_that

after Mr Laurens was discharged, he declared that he considered Lord

Cornwallis as freed from his parole_,' your Committee conceive it

sufficient to observe, that no intimation having been received of such

a fact, except, from the said extract, and Congress having given no

directions to that purpose, the consideration thereof would in their

opinion be premature, and ought therefore to be deferred." Since

which, though letters have been received from Mr Laurens, they have

come to no resolution, unless their direction to him to proceed in the

business of his mission may be considered as such.

General Carleton has sent out the trial of Lippincott, which admits

the murder of Huddy, but justifies Lippincott under an _irregular_

order of the Board of Refugees. So paltry a palliation of so black a

crime would not have been admitted, and Captain Asgill would certainly

have paid the forfeit for the injustice of his countrymen, had not the

interposition of their Majesties prevented. The letter from the Count

de Vergennes is made the groundwork of the resolution passed on that

subject. I shall transmit you the resolve.

I suppose I need not tell you, that the enemy contrived to get off the

Eagle and to carry her, to New York. You will find, in the enclosed

papers, a very polite letter from Captain Elphingston; it is easier to

be so in word than in deed among the British. Digby has refused to

permit him to comply with his engagement, at least so far as his share

of the prize is concerned, and insists upon dividing the baggage of

the officers, and sharing the eighth pair of breeches, &c.

On the 4th instant, Mr Boudinot was elected President in the room of

Mr Hanson, whose term of service had expired. Mr Lewis Morris will

enclose bills purchased here at six shillings and three pence,

currency, for five livres, to the amount of your last quarter's

salary, ending the first of October.

I have the honor to be, &c.

ROBERT R. LIVINGSTON.

* * * * *

ROBERT R. LIVINGSTON TO B. FRANKLIN.

Philadelphia, November 21st, 1782.

Sir,

Congress a few days since, passed the enclosed resolution, No. 1, by

which they have added Mr Jefferson to the commission for concluding a

peace. The established character of this gentleman gives me reason to

hope, that his appointment will be very acceptable to you, and the

other gentlemen in the commission. I have not yet learned whether he

will take the task upon him, but I have reason to believe he will, the

death of his wife having lessened, in the opinion of his friends, the

reluctance which he has hitherto manifested to going abroad. I think

it would be proper to make a formal annunciation of this resolution to

the Court of France. You will naturally give such a representation of

Mr Jefferson's character, as will secure to him there that esteem and

confidence which he justly merits. The resolution, No. 2, needs no

comment; or if it does, Mr Morris will prove the able commentator. I

resign the task to him.

For what end are the show of negotiations kept up by England, when

peace upon the only terms she can possibly expect to obtain it is far

from her heart? Her Ministers, like some Ministers of the Gospel, who

are unwilling to quit the pulpit when they have tired out their

hearers, expect to keep the people together by calling out at every

period, "now to conclude," while they continue the same dull tale for

want of skill to wind it up.

By accounts from Jamaica, we learn that the British have recovered

most of their settlements on the Bay. Some attention will, I hope, be

paid in the treaty of peace to secure to us the share we formerly had

in the logwood trade; it was a valuable remittance to us, and the low

price at which we were enabled to sell renders it important to other

nations, that we should not be excluded from furnishing it as usual.

You will find by the enclosed paper, that Mr Burgess, an English

merchant, was not permitted to settle at Boston and obtain the rights

of citizenship, upon principles which must be alarming to England. It

shows at the same time the respect that is paid to the resolutions of

Congress, notwithstanding all that has been said and written to prove

the contrary.

I am, Sir, &c.

ROBERT R. LIVINGSTON.

_P. S._ I forgot to mention, that I am solicited by Mr Barlow to

transmit to you proposals for printing a work of his, which you will

find described in the enclosed proposals, as they are accompanied with

a specimen of his poetry, which is as much as I have seen of it. You

will judge yourself how far it deserves the patronage he wishes you to

give it.

* * * * *

TO RICHARD OSWALD.

Passy, November 26th, 1782.

Sir,

You may well remember, that in the beginning of our conferences,

before the other Commissioners arrived, on your mentioning to me a

retribution for the royalists, whose estates had been confiscated, I

acquainted you that nothing of that kind could be stipulated by us,

the confiscation being made by virtue of laws of particular States,

which the Congress had no power to contravene or dispense with, and

therefore could give us no such authority in our commission. And I

gave it as my opinion and advice, honestly and cordially, that if a

reconciliation was intended, no mention should be made in our

negotiations of those people; for they having done infinite mischief

to our properties, by wantonly burning and destroying farm-houses,

villages, and towns, if compensation for their losses were insisted

on, we should certainly exhibit again such an account of all the

ravages they had committed, which would necessarily recall to view

scenes of barbarity that must inflame, instead of conciliating, and

tend to perpetuate an enmity that we all profess a desire of

extinguishing. Understanding, however, from you, that this was a point

your Ministry had at heart, I wrote concerning it to Congress, and I

have lately received the following resolution, viz.

"_By the United States, in Congress assembled._"

September 10th, 1782.

"RESOLVED, That the Secretary for Foreign Affairs be, and he is

hereby directed to obtain, as speedily as possible, authentic

returns of the slaves and other property, which have been carried

off or destroyed in the course of the war by the enemy, and to

transmit the same to the Ministers Plenipotentiary for

negotiating peace.

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