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District Manager,

District No. 1,

U. S. Veterans’ Bureau,

101 Milk Street,

Boston, Mass.

Dear Sir:

Referring to General Order No. 26 and to Paragraph No. 2, which reads as

follows:

“All patients now in hospitals in your District, who do not require

further hospital treatment, will be given four days notice to make their

personal arrangements and will then promptly be discharged from

hospital. Each patient discharged under existing Regulations will be

furnished transportation to his bona fide legal residence in the United

States or to the place from which he was hospitalized. Notification of

such discharge will be sent immediately by the Officer in Charge of the

Institution caring for beneficiaries of the U. S. Veterans’ Bureau to

the District Manager of the District in which the institution is

located.”

In complying with these instructions and before authorizing discharge of

patient of the U. S. Veterans’ Bureau from hospital, district Managers

will determine:

1st. Whether the patient is in need of out-patient, dental,

physiotherapy, or other treatment, or convalescent care. If so,

District Managers will make the necessary arrangements to continue

the treatment indicated after discharge of the patient from the

hospital.

2nd. Whether the patient desires vocational training: If so, his

eligibility and feasibility will be determined and arrangements

made for placing him in training promptly upon his discharge from

the hospital.

3rd. Necessary adjustment or readjustment of all matters pertaining to

his compensation will also be completed promptly upon his

discharge from the hospital.

In order to accomplish the above patients of the U. S. Veterans’ Bureau

will not be discharged from hospitals until District Managers have been

notified and the necessary arrangements made by them for the determining

of the above factors upon which the District Managers will approve

discharge and notify the hospital accordingly.

Instructions contained in this communication do not apply to the

Provisions of General Order No. 27, regarding the discharge of patients

for disciplinary reasons.

Very truly yours,

ROBERT U. PATTERSON,

Assistant Director,

U. S. Veterans’ Bureau.

This supplementary letter—perhaps it did not reach you all—was not as

susceptible of misinterpretation as General Order No. 26–A. The needs of

the patients about to be discharged with reference to after-care

out-patient treatment, etc., are not matters which should take long to

determine; feasibility for training is also a matter capable of prompt

determination; eligibility or the right of a patient for training is a

matter that can be handled either before or after a patient’s discharge

has been effected, and the necessary adjustments or re-adjustments of

matters relating to compensation, while necessary of establishment

before discharge from hospital do not require that such patients must

remain in hospital until actually in receipt of compensation. It simply

means that the important steps leading up to this action should be

properly gotten under way, and having done this, the completion of the

compensation status can be as readily carried out after discharge as

before. Notwithstanding the supplementary instructions following General

Order No. 26 still further conflict regarding the application of the two

orders in question in the District offices and in the hospitals was

apparent from reports received in the Central Office, and it was decided

to insert a further explanatory notice in the U. S. Veterans’ Bureau

Field Letter No. 20, of December 24, 1921. This notice was as follows:

Judging from letters that have reached the Bureau, there has been some

confusion with regard to the exact intent expressed in General Orders

Nos. 26 and 26–A.

Rightly interpreted, these orders are in no wise contradictory.

The intent of General Order No. 26–A is fivefold, namely:

(1) To determine the eligibility of claimants for vocational training.

(2) To determine their feasibility for training.

(3) To arrange for training when eligibility and feasibility are

established.

(4) To accomplish everything necessary to adjudicate claims.

(5) Provision for outpatient treatment when required.

“All of these matters ought to be attended to before the patient leaves

the hospital, and with close co-operation and efficient administration,

both in the field and in the Bureau, this can be done, and of course

must be done without keeping the patient in the hospital after his

treatment is completed. Manifestly there is only one way to accomplish

this, and that is, to anticipate the discharge of the patient a

sufficient length of time in advance to provide for these objects.”

“_Feasibility_ of training is to be determined preferably by the Medical

Officer in Charge of the hospital, or his assistant, and means only

that, in his opinion, the patient is physically and mentally fit to

receive vocational training.”

“The other requirements must be met by the Bureau or its field

representatives, but with the co-operation of the hospitals. A

representative will shortly be named at each hospital, who will keep

himself informed of the status of each patient’s claim to the benefits

enumerated and who will follow up all cases in which there may be

delay.”

“Again reminding all concerned that anticipation is the key-note of the

action desired in these General Orders, the hope is expressed that the

objects outlined may be obtained, as nearly as possible, before the

patient is ready to be discharged.”

Any discussion of the instructions of General Order No. 26 and No. 26–A

must take into consideration the reasons which led to the issuance of

those orders. The officials in the U. S. Veterans’ Bureau had been

convinced for sometime that a high percentage of patients were being

cared for in hospitals, and this applies particularly to contract

hospitals, whose necessity for remaining in hospital was not based upon

sound medical reason, and in many instances upon no real medical

indication at all. A number of factors were responsible for this

situation,—the rapid growth and development of the District offices

required the personnel therein to work at high pressure at all times; it

has been a continuous struggle to keep abreast of the volume of incoming

correspondence, with requests for hospitalization, application for

compensation, claimants crowding the doors, and a thousand and one other

subjects. It has been a struggle on the part of the District personnel

to keep from being swamped by the tremendous and ever increasing daily

load. Hospitalization was authorized and carried out both in contract

and Government institutions in cases of all character for treatment

where the indications for such were great and immediate, or were slight

or nil, for ailments, objective and subjective, imaginary and real, for

physical examination and report, for determination of compensability,

and for information concerning the connection with military service of a

claimants disability. The list grew so rapidly that patients were lost

sight of. Many claimants were hospitalized for examination and

treatment, and overlooked after examination and treatment had been

completed. Contract hospitals particularly, through lack of a proper and

direct connection in channels of communication between such hospitals

and the District offices, were carrying patients over long periods of

time. Patients got into contract hospitals for whom no proper

authorization was ever provided, and the records of whom were never

clearly defined in the District offices. The scattering of patients

anywhere from one to a considerable number in several hundred contract

institutions in each District extended the lines of communication

between the Government and the District Offices until it was practically

impossible to keep the contact clear. The Central Office in Washington

felt that it was time to take stock, and stock-taking at almost any time

is an enlightening process. The Director desired to remove claimants

from contract hospitals; he desired further to utilize as much as

possible the existing Government facilities which have been provided for

this purpose.

Under date of September 1st, about the time of the issuance of General

Order No. 26 there were 9,592 patients in _862_ private hospitals; there

were 18,698 patients in _92_ Government hospitals. Today there are

_8924_ patients in 757 contract hospitals and _20339_ patients in _92_

Government hospitals. From these figures it would appear as though the

clearing out of hospitals, as provided for in General Order No. 26, has

not been productive of results. This, however, must be viewed in the

light of what is actually taking place in the field. About the time of

the issuance of General Order No. 26, or a little before, every District

was putting into the field a Clean-up Squad for practically every state,

the function of which Squad was to make contact with all potential

beneficiaries of the U. S. Veterans’ Bureau for the purpose of

establishing claims, of offering hospitalization for examination, for

emergency treatment, and for other situations. These Clean-up Squads

served to feed a considerably increased number of patients of all types

into hospitals. Anticipating that such period of hospitalization would

be brief, they have used contract hospitals because of this fact, and

because of their location in the near or immediate vicinity of the

patients handled. The turnover has thus been largely increased. The

increase of patients in Government hospitals has risen steadily at the

rate of approximately 600 a month until it has reached the figure of

_20339_ patients, as against _18698_ patients in the early part of

September. There has been a slow but gradual decline of patients

hospitalized in contract institutions, notwithstanding the very material

influx into the hospitals by reason of the Clean-up Squads just spoken

of. It might appear to you who are actually caring for patients in your

institutions that notwithstanding the explanation of the meaning of

General Order No. 26 and 26–A, that the holding of a patient in a

hospital until all of the several matters necessary can be taken care

of, will result in undue delay in discharge. This doubtless would be

true if each hospital were required to assemble data called for and make

the other necessary provisions and forward the reports to the District

office to await return and receive transportation before a patient could

be discharged.

In the issuance of General Order No. 26–A and the supplementary

instructions it was contemplated in the Bureau here in Washington that a

representative of the District Manager would be necessary in each

hospital, at least, in those of considerable size, and some distance

away from the District office, in order that direct liaison between the

District Manager and the hospital in question might be maintained, it

being the business of this representative to see that matters of

after-treatment, convalescent care, feasibility for training, and

necessary adjustments of compensation matters will be properly taken

care of prior to the time that it is actually necessary to discharge the

patient. This representative will keep contact with the appropriate

District office and handle transportation for returning a claimant home

or to point of hospitalization. Anticipation on the part of the medical

officers actually taking care of claimants in hospitals, of the needs of

each patient in respect to these necessary details would enable the

District Manager’s representative located in the hospital to carry out

the proper adjustments of these important matters and the patient made

ready for discharge at the proper time without delay. To make effective

the services of the Government hospitals in the functions which they are

carrying out, a thorough understanding of the problems involved is very

necessary and a sympathetic understanding of each other’s problems, as

between the District Managers and Hospitals together with a spirit of

co-operation and fair play is essential to the desired results, if not

an absolute prerequisite to the success of the undertaking.

Many features of our work are, I recognize, trying and a thousand and

one annoyances are a part of each day’s work. Keeping before us at all

times the meaning of the work involved is a great aid to the elimination

of misunderstanding, and personal conferences serve to smooth out and

adjust overlapping of authority. One ex-service man maimed or injured,

replaced into his particular niche of our social fabric should make us

feel appreciative of what our work means, and the knowledge that we are

rebuilding men who have suffered in the service of our country, should

fortify us very strongly against the annoyances and trials which must

sink into insignificance when compared with the work done. I know that

you all realize this and that your every effort and energy is bent to

the accomplishment of the purpose for which we are all working together;

that we are making headway in the proper direction is beyond question;

that we are helping to rebuild the disabled is becoming more apparent as

our work goes along, and we all, I know, are not only proud that we are

having a part in this work, but feel privileged that our services are

helping to bring about these ends.”

Upon the conclusion of Dr. Guthrie’s paper, the subject-matter of the

several papers read during the morning session was thrown open to

discussion, the presiding officer remarking in this connection that full

opportunity would be given to all to freely express themselves. With

reference to the matter of the issuance of so-called conflicting orders,

which had been referred to, he stated that the administration of the

Veterans’ Bureau is regulated by certain laws upon which these orders

were based, and that when such laws are changed, it of course becomes

necessary to revoke certain orders in force at the time. He added that

the matter of hospitalization, thrown suddenly upon the Public Health

Service and the U. S. Veterans’ Bureau is a tremendous undertaking and

that those who carry on this work are entitled to the sympathy of all

good people.

COL. BRATTON: wished to place himself on record as saying that there is

nobody who is in greater sympathy with the wounded soldier, whom he

would like to see receive all that a grateful Government can give, but

that due to the very liberality of the Sweet Bill, cases have crept in

whereby compensation is being received for disabilities in no way

connected with the service. He stated that the Sweet Bill does not

clearly define what the line of duty shall be and that he is amazed at

the number of cases that are being carried along and hospitalized; that

he is of the opinion that the gentlemen in Congress do not realize how

liberal this act is and that men would receive compensation for diseases

which existed prior to their coming into service. He offered the

following motion amending section 300 of the Sweet Bill, to be

incorporated in a resolution to Congress as coming from this body, which

resolution was adopted:

Motion:

RESOLVED, that in considering the question of line of duty, it

should be understood that an officer of the Army or Navy, or an

enlisted man of the Army or Navy, who has been accepted on his first

physical examination after arrival at a military station as fit for

service shall be considered to have contracted in line of duty any

subsequent determined physical disability, unless such disability

shall be shown to be the result of the patient’s own carelessness,

misconduct, or vicious habits at any time, or to have been

contracted while absent from duty without permission, or unless the

history of the case shows unmistakably that the disability existed

prior to entrance into the service.

DR. G. H. YOUNG: stated that it has frequently been a shock to his

sensibilities to see the manner in which compensation has been awarded

to certain ex-service men who are not in any sense deserving; that

assuming John Doe had a disability when he came into the service, it is

now going on four years since his discharge and if such disability was

exaggerated in service he should be compensated just as if he had been

wounded in action; that the question comes up as to how it can be

determined as to whether the exaggeration of his disability arose say

during six weeks, six months or eighteen months of his military service

or in the period of nearly four years which has since elapsed? That he

is of opinion that this applies especially to the in-patienthiatric

cases.

DR. COBB: suggested that general discussion of the other subjects be taken

up and that this very important matter be brought up later.

DR. BREW: referred to the case of a man in hospital with a fracture of the

thumb, which was operated upon with the result that it functioned

properly and the man was not handicapped in the least. After the

operation, which resulted in his total rehabilitation the man was

awarded vocational training and drew $80 a month. He referred to the

case of another man who had been in every hospital he could reach,

obtaining transportation from the Red Cross when he could not otherwise

obtain it; this man was inducted into service at Jefferson Barracks and

had a military service of 28 days, of which 28 days he was in hospital

14 days, and his disability was amoebic dysentery, which he could not

have incurred at Jefferson Barracks; this man was in hospital for 18

months and has been drawing $130 a month for training, which he has been

taking for two years. Dr. Brew also referred to the case of a negro, who

had syphilis before he went into the service; that he is as well as the

average man of his type and is receiving a compensation of $110 a month;

that this man has benefited by his military service because he has had a

line of treatment that he would not have received in civil life.

DR. WHITE: (Speedway Hospital) thought that the matter of allowing the space

of six feet between beds should be adjusted, as this space will greatly

reduce the hospital capacity. He also referred to the matter of rations

for absentees and stated a man may be away a matter of seven days

without leave and asked whether or not the hospital shall charge for

that patient’s rations, as the dietary service must prepare for him

whether he is there or not, and there is always the possibility of his

return the next day; that it also happens that a patient on leave may

return two days before he is expected. He thought that if meals are

prepared they ought to be paid for.

Dr. White also referred to losses of clothing which take place and

thought it was unfortunate that individual lockers were not supplied for

use of patients, as if they were supplied they could be rented to

patients at a nominal cost, thereby relieving the institution of the

custody of the clothing.

The large amount of paper work was also mentioned by Dr. White. He

stated that he understands that when a patient is sent to a hospital he

receives a compensation of $80 a month automatically, in which case he

cannot see the necessity for making additional physical examinations.

With reference to the matter of admissions, transfer and discharges, Dr.

White expressed the opinion that officers should require a patient to

state whether or not he is receiving compensation; that in the matter of

transfers as well as admissions, officers should be required to state in

writing, specifically and distinctly, the reason why they desire cases

transferred. He mentioned one instance wherein it was stated that a

patient had a gunshot wound of the left thigh, and he simply had a scar

to show for it. He thought that officers should be required to state in

writing the hospitalization needed. Dr. White also referred to cases

where it is desired to discharge a man from a hospital for certain

offenses, stating that if this is done, compensation of course would be

stopped and the man will not feel kindly toward the particular hospital

which discharges him. He was of opinion that in such cases a hospital

should be required to terminate its own cases and not dump them off on

other institutions and stated that at the Speedway Hospital there is no

hesitation about reporting such cases as they are found, and if officers

who transfer patients would give specific reasons as to why patients

need hospital treatment, there will not be so many men coming into

hospitals who do not require treatment anywhere.

In regard to G. O. 26, Dr. White inquired as to who is to decide the

feasibility and eligibility of patients who are ready to be discharged,

stating that he had been waiting for a representative of the Veterans’

Bureau to be sent to his hospital empowered and authorized to make

awards of compensation, as if medical officers are expected to do it,

their number will have to be increased; that a man should be sent from

the Veterans’ Bureau to attend to matters relating to training and who

could say definitely to a patient that he can have such and such

training, as it is absolutely necessary to have such a man and if he is

provided it will prevent a large number of complaints.

DR. GUTHRIE: stated that he would like to have some discussion as to whether

the representative referred to by Dr. White should be a medical officer

or a layman; that Dr. White stated that he had expected the arrival of

such a representative for some time, and as the doctor is a

young-looking man, he thought that if he lived long enough he will see

this representative get there.

GEN. SAWYER: mentioned that the Board of Hospitalization has an

understanding with the various Departments and the Veterans’ Bureau that

these things are to be settled by the Vocational Director, who, it is

understood, is to become as quickly as possible a part of the hospital

personnel; that he was of the opinion that the Board of Hospitalization

came to the conclusion that it was not material whether the vocational

representative was a layman or a medical man, but that he personally was

of the opinion that upon the judgment of a medical man a great deal

depends for the answer that is finally given; that he would like to

encourage Dr. White with the thought that the Hospitalization Board has

this matter very definitely in mind in order that the man needed may be

provided.

COL. EVANS: stated that the matter just referred to was a part of the

program had been approved and was now awaiting the signature of the

Director; that the individual designated as Vocational Director in a

hospital will be responsible for contacting the men with regard to their

compensation and their preparation for vocational training; that he will

confer with the medical officers and of course should be directed by

them, but he is responsible for the work.

DR. GUTHRIE: was of the opinion that the location of these men in the

hospitals in connection with the work referred to is most valuable.

DR. DEDMAN: Stated that General Order No. 26 has been a wonderful help. In

connection with the matter of discharged he thought that four days would

be enough, because a man’s discharge can be anticipated and arrangements

made for his vocational training, provided a representative from the

Veterans’ Bureau is furnished. He stated that everyone has the same

ideals as to the restoration to health of these ex-service men but that

this matter cannot function properly and we cannot attain the maximum

for these men unless we do work together in harmony and peace in

hospitals; that when these representatives come, it should be distinctly

understood that they are members of the official family and staff of the

hospital; that these representatives should not be medical men as a

medical board can determine the means and advisability of training, but

that they should be well versed in the subject in order that they may be

competent to judge as to what is best for a certain man to take up.

Dr. Dedman added that difficulty had been experienced in getting men to

leave the hospital. He mentioned the case of a boy who had been admitted

to the hospital with active tuberculosis, who was eventually rated as an

arrested case and told that he had received the maximum benefit, that

this boy did not want to leave the hospital and made a protest to his

Congressman.

DR. COOK: stated that he was going through his hospital one day and met a

big husky and asked him where he worked; that he replied he did not work

but was a patient; that this incident set him to thinking and he got his

discharge board working with the result that he reduced the number of

patients from 910 to 500; that in connection with existing requirements

to the effect that no patient would be discharged from a hospital

without going through a contact man, he was fortunate in having a man

assigned to him from the Veterans’ Bureau and every case of discharge

goes through his hands; that under this arrangement he has no difficulty

in discharging patients.

DR. EVANS: informed the Conference that there was on the Director’s desk a

ruling stating that personnel from the Veterans’ Bureau will be under

the commanding officers on hospitals.

DR. YOUNG: referred to G.O. 26, authorizing discharges from hospitals and

mentioned experiences where difficulty had arisen in this connection due

to the lack of adequate means being provided to enforce such order. He

mentioned cases that had come up where men who had received the maximum

benefit, would state that they were not going to be discharged; that

these cases would generally occur on the eve of a holiday, or on

Saturday night and the men would go into a ward and get into bed. He

believed that in such cases the hospital authorities should be given

some means of enforcing this order by the Veterans’ Bureau, as aid can

not be had from the local police who will not enter upon a Government

reservation; that another way would be through swearing out a warrant,

but as these cases generally occurred on Saturday and a warrant could

not be sworn out until the following Monday, a man is thereby enabled to

stay four days longer.

DR. CHRISTIAN: stated that in his experience the police had not refused to

go upon the reservation and that he has had one of his staff sworn in as

a deputy sheriff; also, that upon the date named in the discharge order

the man affected is not officially in the hospital and is not rated as

present for the purpose of being fed.

Concerning transfers, Dr. Christian mentioned that authority for

transfers has changed a number of times and was of opinion that it would

be advantageous if stations like his could be given blanket authority to

transfer mental cases when they are not prepared to take care of them,

as it would relieve the medical officers of great anxiety and would save

the family of the man a great deal of torture; that this could be

accomplished in a few hours by telephoning to the nearest mental

hospital and receiving an answer in a short time as to whether or not a

bed was available, all of which would expedite the transfer of the

patient; that it is now taking too long to get transfers.

He also stated that he appreciated the importance of the Inspector’s

Department, which is of wonderful benefit to the commanding officers.

With reference to G.O. 26, he thought that the length of time prescribed

is too long, as with the generality of patients who have received the

maximum amount of treatment, it does not make a great deal of difference

as to how much notice they have as to when they are going to be

discharged, as the necessary arrangements can be made in a very short

time without any inconvenience; that there is, however, a certain class

of cases which very often takes advantage of the four days’ notice; that

it has been his experience that when four days’ notice is given it

apparently has no effect on the first day, on the second day the patient

will begin to develop symptoms, on the third day the symptoms are very

much increased and on the 4th day you get a letter from the patient’s

Congressman.

DR. LASCHE: was of the opinion that all the authority needed is given by

G.O. 27 of the Veterans’ Bureau, which gives the medical officer in

charge considerable authority to enforce discipline; that the average

patient, however, chafes under the word “discipline”; that the gentlemen

from the Army and Navy have referred to the advantages of discipline. He

stated that he was on a discharge board for soldiers after they came

home from Europe and frequently heard them say: “Well, by Jove, we are

away from this —— discipline now;” that with all due respect to

discipline that is necessary in Army and Navy organizations, he does not

believe that the same degree of discipline is necessary after these men

become beneficiaries of the Veterans’ Bureau; that in a year’s time he

has only had to apply the provisions of G.O. 27 on one patient who was

A.W.O.L. three times for the period of twenty-four hours or more within

thirty days; that he finally discharged this man, who, however,

subsequently applied for readmission and was successful in obtaining it

within two weeks and all the patients at the institution know that this

man got back after he was discharged.

With reference to the question of Dr. Guthrie as to whether a layman

would serve successfully, Dr. Lasche was of opinion that the layman is

the only desirable person, as the medical man’s function is exclusively

to determine the vocational disability and after this is determined all

the other matters should be left to a layman, as they are more or less

in the nature of an investigation and a layman who is properly selected

would be much better able to run down and ferret out such matters; that

it is important, however, to select a man for this particular function

who has shown an adaptability for research along these lines, and, some

of the men who have been in charge of vocational centers do not possess

the requisite qualifications to decide as to visibility or eligibility

in the matter of vocational training.

DR. T. R. PAYNE: thought that the hospital brand had been placed on a great

many men in cases where it should not have been; that once you get a man

in a hospital he is going to repeat as long as he can. He referred to a

class of so-called gas bronchitis patients and stated that it is well

known that during the war all a man had to do was to say he had been

gassed and receive a wound stripe, and this same man is now coming in to

our hospitals; that the office of The Adjutant General of the Army has

no record of such men being gassed; that he has no chest pathology. He

thought that these men should never have gotten into the hospitals and

should have been handled outside more by psychology than by doctors and

hoped that the dispensaries are going to keep these men out of

hospitals; that there is no doubt in his mind that a great many

neurasthenics should never have gotten into general hospitals; that the

great trouble is the compensation given those men places a premium upon

their hospitalization; that men are in hospital who have been discharged

as having received their maximum hospitalization; that these men have

been taken out of vocational training; that they would rather go back

into hospital and get $80 a month and three meals a day and be

entertained several times a week; that more care must be taken by

doctors regarding the men they send in to hospitals.

GENERAL IRELAND: stated that it has been found that there is no after effect

from gases and that Lieut. Col. Gilchrist, M.C., U.S.A., representing

the Medical Department of the Army in the office of the Chief, Chemical

Warfare Service, has data relative to this subject, which can probably

be obtained by writing him.

DR. LLOYD: offered the following resolution, which, however, was not

adopted:

“That it is the sense of this body that the Federal Board of

Hospitalization recommend to the Director of the Veterans’ Bureau and to

the Surgeon General of the Public Health Service the designation of an

officer of each service to receive special suggestions and

recommendations from the field, criticisms also of instructions

contained in field orders, circular letters and similar communications;

these designated officers to constitute a board for the consideration of

these recommendations, with the view of recommending to the Director the

adoption of such as are believed to be of value.”

DR. CHRISTIAN: offered the following amendment to Dr. Lloyd’s resolution:

“That these officers be detailed to the Veterans’ Bureau for a limited

period, say six months; that they be field officers.”

DR. JOHNSON: moved that the resolution of Dr. Lloyd be laid on the table

indefinitely, which resolution was adopted.

DR. LLOYD: suggested that it would be well to have one man of each service

who could be advised as to what is the matter with certain general

orders and know that such matters will not be pigeon-holed but will

receive action.

COL. BRATTON: was of the opinion that all suggestions relating to

improvement of service should go through the chief of the service. He

stated that no difficulty was experienced in this connection in the Army

and that it seemed to him that the chief of a bureau should know what

was going on.

GEN. IRELAND: stated that contemplated changes affecting the hospitalization

of patients of the Veterans’ Bureau in the Army are always referred to

his office for review before they are issued.

DR. BLISS: thought that there should be a representative of the Veterans’

Bureau in all Government hospitals where there are Veterans’ Bureau

patients, which representative would not have anything to do with the

internal administration of the hospital.

DR. WILLIAMS: with reference to the matter of bed space in hospitals offered

a resolution to the effect that the question of floor space and distance

between beds be reconsidered by the Veterans’ Bureau, with a view to the

revision of the present requirements; that unnecessary bed space is

being provided and it should be cut down; that he believes the allowance

of six feet is necessary in respiratory cases and in infectious cases,

but that in the ordinary general ward he believed that a little less

space would be quite sufficient, as the larger requirement will cut down

the hospital capacity very materially. This resolution was duly

seconded.

DR. BARLOW: With reference to space allowed per patient, thought that there

should be a difference in accordance with the classes of patients; that

he has charge of a hospital for mental cases, and it would be necessary

to arrange for 100 square feet; these men are not suffering from

physical disabilities. He stated that the State Hospitals cannot provide

even fifty square feet of floor space and that it was absolutely

necessary for the Veterans’ Bureau to take out of the State hospitals

every insane patient they have.

DR. BLACKWOOD: concerning the allowance of six feet between beds, asked if

this was not intended to mean six feet between bed centers.

The following motion was adopted:

“That the Federal Board ask the Veterans’ Bureau to reconsider the

question of bed space.”

A motion was offered, which failed of adoption, to the effect that the

Director of the Veterans’ Bureau set aside a certain amount for the

reimbursement of unavoidable losses of property of ex-service men in

hospitals.

DR. KRULISH: was of the opinion that if the foregoing resolution was

adopted, that more trouble would be experienced than before.

It was further brought out that such a motion would carry no weight;

that it was thought the service had this question up once before and the

Comptroller’s office advised that no money arrangements could be made

and it was not believed that the Veterans’ Bureau could make allowance

for losses of clothing.

It was also stated in this connection that in some institutions steel

lockers had been provided, a small deposit being required, which was

given back when the key was returned, under which arrangement very

little clothing was lost.

DR. HETERICK: stated that his institution is equipped with steel lockers and

a small deposit required, which is returned when the patient is

discharged; that the patient is told that due preparation has been made

for taking care of his clothing and it is in his custody; that the

installation of these lockers has reduced the theft of personal property

to a minimum; that some times, however, lockers will be broken into.

The meeting adjourned at 12:30 p.m.

_Fourth Session_ Wednesday, January 18, 1922.

Present: Members of the Federal Board of Hospitalization; also, about

one hundred conferees.

GEN. CUMMING, presiding, called the meeting to order.

DR. WHITE called the roll, and read the following announcement:

“It is requested that, at the first available opportunity, the

following officers confer with Dr. Maddox, “C” Building, Room 1–319,

concerning urgent construction work going on at their stations:

Dr. W. H. Allen, of Boise, Idaho.

Dr. W. C. Billings, of Ellis Island, N.Y.

Dr. R. L. Allen, of Arrowhead Springs, Cal.

Dr. A. P. Chronquest, of West Roxbury, Mass.

Dr. E. R. Marshall, of Detroit, Mich.”

GEN. CUMMING: “This afternoon we are going to consider administrative

policies. The first paper will be “Professional Service,” by Dr.

Lavinder,”

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