Whether this scheme of indulgence, grounded at once on contempt and

jealousy, has a tendency gradually to produce something better and more

liberal, I cannot tell, for want of having the actual map of the

country. If this should be the case, it was right in you to accept it,

such as it is. But if this should be one of the experiments which have

sometimes been made before the temper of the nation was ripe for a real

reformation, I think it may possibly have ill effects, by disposing the

penal matter in a more systematic order, and thereby fixing a permanent

bar against any relief that is truly substantial. The whole merit or

demerit of the measure depends upon the plans and dispositions of those

by whom the act was made, concurring with the general temper of the

Protestants of Ireland, and their aptitude to admit in time of some part

of that equality without which you never can be FELLOW-CITIZENS. Of all

this I am wholly ignorant. All my correspondence with men of public

importance in Ireland has for some time totally ceased. On the first

bill for the relief of the ROMAN CATHOLICS of Ireland, I was, without

any call of mine, consulted both on your side of the water and on this.

On the present occasion, I have not heard a word from any man in office,

and know as little of the intentions of the British government as I

know of the temper of the Irish Parliament. I do not find that any

opposition was made by the principal persons of the minority in the

House of Commons, or that any is apprehended from them in the House of

Lords. The whole of the difficulty seems to lie with the principal men

in government, under whose protection this bill is supposed to be

brought in. This violent opposition and cordial support, coming from one

and the same quarter, appears to me something mysterious, and hinders me

from being able to make any clear judgment of the merit of the present

measure, as compared with the actual state of the country and the

general views of government, without which one can say nothing that may

not be very erroneous.

To look at the bill in the abstract, it is neither more nor less than a

renewed act of UNIVERSAL, UNMITIGATED, INDISPENSABLE, EXCEPTIONLESS

DISQUALIFICATION.

One would imagine that a bill inflicting such a multitude of

incapacities had followed on the heels of a conquest made by a very

fierce enemy, under the impression of recent animosity and resentment.

No man, on reading that bill, could imagine he was reading an act of

amnesty and indulgence, following a recital of the good behavior of

those who are the objects of it,--which recital stood at the head of the

bill, as it was first introduced, but, I suppose for its incongruity

with the body of the piece, was afterwards omitted. This I say on

memory. It, however, still recites the oath, and that Catholics ought to

be considered as good and loyal subjects to his Majesty, his crown and

government. Then follows an universal exclusion of those GOOD and LOYAL

subjects from every (even the lowest) office of trust and profit,--from

any vote at an election,--from any privilege in a town corporate,--from

being even a freeman of such a corporation,--from serving on grand

juries,--from a vote at a vestry,--from having a gun in his house,--from

being a barrister, attorney, or solicitor, &c., &c., &c.

This has surely much more the air of a table of proscription than an act

of grace. What must we suppose the laws concerning those _good_ subjects

to have been, of which this is a relaxation? I know well that there is a

cant language current, about the difference between an exclusion from

employments, even to the most rigorous extent, and an exclusion from the

natural benefits arising from a man's own industry. I allow, that, under

some circumstances, the difference is very material in point of justice,

and that there are considerations which may render it advisable for a

wise government to keep the leading parts of every branch of civil and

military administration in hands of the best trust; but a total

exclusion from the commonwealth is a very different thing. When a

government subsists (as governments formerly did) on an estate of its

own, with but few and inconsiderable revenues drawn from the subject,

then the few officers which existed in such establishments were

naturally at the disposal of that government, which paid the salaries

out of its own coffers: there an exclusive preference could hardly merit

the name of proscription. Almost the whole produce of a man's industry

at that time remained in his own purse to maintain his family. But times

alter, and the _whole_ estate of government is from private

contribution. When a very great portion of the labor of individuals

goes to the state, and is by the state again refunded to individuals,

through the medium of offices, and in this circuitous progress from the

private to the public, and from the public again to the private fund,

the families from whom the revenue is taken are indemnified, and an

equitable balance between the government and the subject is established.

But if a great body of the people who contribute to this state lottery

are excluded from all the prizes, the stopping the circulation with

regard to them may be a most cruel hardship, amounting in effect to

being double and treble taxed; and it will be felt as such to the very

quick, by all the families, high and low, of those hundreds of thousands

who are denied their chance in the returned fruits of their own

industry. This is the thing meant by those who look upon the public

revenue only as a spoil, and will naturally wish to have as few as

possible concerned in the division of the booty. If a state should be so

unhappy as to think it cannot subsist without such a barbarous

proscription, the persons so proscribed ought to be indemnified by the

remission of a large part of their taxes, by an immunity from the

offices of public burden, and by an exemption from being pressed into

any military or naval service.

Common sense and common justice dictate this at least, as some sort of

compensation to a people for their slavery. How many families are

incapable of existing, if the little offices of the revenue and little

military commissions are denied them! To deny them at home, and to make

the happiness of acquiring some of them somewhere else felony or high

treason, is a piece of cruelty, in which, till very lately, I did not

suppose this age capable of persisting. Formerly a similarity of

religion made a sort of country for a man in some quarter or other. A

refugee for religion was a protected character. Now the reception is

cold indeed; and therefore, as the asylum abroad is destroyed, the

hardship at home is doubled. This hardship is the more intolerable

because the professions are shut up. The Church is so of course. Much is

to be said on that subject, in regard to them, and to the Protestant

Dissenters. But that is a chapter by itself. I am sure I wish well to

that Church, and think its ministers among the very best citizens of

your country. However, such as it is, a great walk in life is forbidden

ground to seventeen hundred thousand of the inhabitants of Ireland. Why

are they excluded from the law? Do not they expend money in their suits?

Why may not they indemnify themselves, by profiting, in the persons of

some, for the losses incurred by others? Why may not they have persons

of confidence, whom they may, if they please, employ in the agency of

their affairs? The exclusion from the law, from grand juries, from

sheriffships and under-sheriffships, as well as from freedom in any

corporation, may subject them to dreadful hardships, as it may exclude

them wholly from all that is beneficial and expose them to all that is

mischievous in a trial by jury. This was manifestly within my own

observation, for I was three times in Ireland from the year 1760 to the

year 1767, where I had sufficient means of information concerning the

inhuman proceedings (among which were many cruel murders, besides an

infinity of outrages and oppressions unknown before in a civilized age)

which prevailed during that period, in consequence of a pretended

conspiracy among _Roman Catholics_ against the king's government. I

could dilate upon the mischiefs that may happen, from those which have

happened, upon this head of disqualification, if it were at all

necessary.

The head of exclusion from votes for members of Parliament is closely

connected with the former. When you cast your eye on the statute-book,

you will see that no _Catholic_, even in the ferocious acts of Queen

Anne, was disabled from voting on account of his religion. The only

conditions required for that privilege were the oaths of allegiance and

abjuration,--both oaths relative to a civil concern. Parliament has

since added another oath of the same kind; and yet a House of Commons,

adding to the securities of government in proportion as its danger is

confessedly lessened, and professing both confidence and indulgence, in

effect takes away the privilege left by an act full of jealousy and

professing persecution.

The taking away of a vote is the taking away the shield which the

subject has, not only against the oppression of power, but that worst of

all oppressions, the persecution of private society and private manners.

No candidate for Parliamentary influence is obliged to the least

attention towards them, either in cities or counties. On the contrary,

if they should become obnoxious to any bigoted or malignant people

amongst whom they live, it will become the interest of those who court

popular favor to use the numberless means which always reside in

magistracy and influence to oppress them. The proceedings in a certain

county in Munster, during the unfortunate period I have mentioned, read

a strong lecture on the cruelty of depriving men of that shield on

account of their speculative opinions. The Protestants of Ireland feel

well and naturally on the hardship of being bound by laws in the

enacting of which they do not directly or indirectly vote. The bounds of

these matters are nice, and hard to be settled in theory, and perhaps

they have been pushed too far. But how they can avoid the necessary

application of the principles they use in their disputes with others to

their disputes with their fellow-citizens, I know not.

It is true, the words of this act do not create a disability; but they

clearly and evidently suppose it. There are few _Catholic_ freeholders

to take the benefit of the privilege, if they were permitted to partake

it; but the manner in which this very right in freeholders at large is

defended is not on the idea that the freeholders do really and truly

represent the people, but that, all people being capable of obtaining

freeholds, all those who by their industry and sobriety merit this

privilege have the means of arriving at votes. It is the same with the

corporations.

The laws against foreign education are clearly the very worst part of

the old code. Besides your laity, you have the succession of about four

thousand clergymen to provide for. These, having no lucrative objects in

prospect, are taken very much out of the lower orders of the people. At

home they have no means whatsoever provided for their attaining a

clerical education, or indeed any education at all. When I was in Paris,

about seven years ago, I looked at everything, and lived with every kind

of people, as well as my time admitted. I saw there the Irish college of

the Lombard, which seemed to me a very good place of education, under

excellent orders and regulations, and under the government of a very

prudent and learned man (the late Dr. Kelly). This college was possessed

of an annual fixed revenue of more than a thousand pound a year, the

greatest part of which had arisen from the legacies and benefactions of

persons educated in that college, and who had obtained promotions in

France, from the emolument of which promotions they made this grateful

return. One in particular I remember, to the amount of ten thousand

livres annually, as it is recorded on the donor's monument in their

chapel.

It has been the custom of poor persons in Ireland to pick up such

knowledge of the Latin tongue as, under the general discouragements, and

occasional pursuits of magistracy, they were able to acquire; and

receiving orders at home, were sent abroad to obtain a clerical

education. By officiating in petty chaplainships, and performing now and

then certain offices of religion for small gratuities, they received the

means of maintaining themselves until they were able to complete their

education. Through such difficulties and discouragements, many of them

have arrived at a very considerable proficiency, so as to be marked and

distinguished abroad. These persons afterwards, by being sunk in the

most abject poverty, despised and ill-treated by the higher orders among

Protestants, and not much better esteemed or treated even by the few

persons of fortune of their own persuasion, and contracting the habits

and ways of thinking of the poor and uneducated, among whom they were

obliged to live, in a few years retained little or no traces of the

talents and acquirements which distinguished them in the early periods

of their lives. Can we with justice cut them off from the use of places

of education founded for the greater part from the economy of poverty

and exile, without providing something that is equivalent at home?

Whilst this restraint of foreign and domestic education was part of an

horrible and impious system of servitude, the members were well fitted

to the body. To render men patient under a deprivation of all the rights

of human nature, everything which could give them a knowledge or feeling

of those rights was rationally forbidden. To render humanity fit to be

insulted, it was fit that it should be degraded. But when we profess to

restore men to the capacity for property, it is equally irrational and

unjust to deny them the power of improving their minds as well as their

fortunes. Indeed, I have ever thought the prohibition of the means of

improving our rational nature to be the worst species of tyranny that

the insolence and perverseness of mankind ever dared to exercise. This

goes to all men, in all situations, to whom education can be denied.

Your Lordship mentions a proposal which came from my friend, the

Provost, whose benevolence and enlarged spirit I am perfectly convinced

of,--which is, the proposal of erecting a few sizarships in the college,

for the education (I suppose) of Roman Catholic clergymen.[27] He

certainly meant it well; but, coming from such a man as he is, it is a

strong instance of the danger of suffering any description of men to

fall into entire contempt. The charities intended for them are not

perceived to be fresh insults; and the true nature of their wants and

necessities being unknown, remedies wholly unsuitable to the nature of

their complaint are provided for them. It is to feed a sick Gentoo with

beef broth, and to foment his wounds with brandy. If the other parts of

the university were open to them, as well on the foundation as

otherwise, the offering of sizarships would be a proportioned part of a

_general_ kindness. But when everything _liberal_ is withheld, and only

that which is _servile_ is permitted, it is easy to conceive upon what

footing they must be in such a place.

Mr. Hutchinson must well know the regard and honor I have for him; and

he cannot think my dissenting from him in this particular arises from a

disregard of his opinion: it only shows that I think he has lived in

Ireland. To have any respect for the character and person of a Popish

priest there--oh, 'tis an uphill work indeed! But until we come to

respect what stands in a respectable light with others, we are very

deficient in the temper which qualifies us to make any laws and

regulations about them: it even disqualifies us from being charitable to

them with any effect or judgment.

When we are to provide for the education of any body of men, we ought

seriously to consider the particular functions they are to perform in

life. A Roman Catholic clergyman is the minister of a very ritual

religion, and by his profession subject to many restraints. His life is

a life full of strict observances; and his duties are of a laborious

nature towards himself, and of the highest possible trust towards

others. The duty of confession alone is sufficient to set in the

strongest light the necessity of his having an appropriated mode of

education. The theological opinions and peculiar rites of one religion

never can be properly taught in universities founded for the purposes

and on the principles of another which in many points are directly

opposite. If a Roman Catholic clergyman, intended for celibacy and the

function of confession, is not strictly bred in a seminary where these

things are respected, inculcated, and enforced, as sacred, and not made

the subject of derision and obloquy, he will be ill fitted for the

former, and the latter will be indeed in his hands a terrible

instrument.

There is a great resemblance between, the whole frame and constitution

of the Greek and Latin Churches. The secular clergy in the former, by

being married, living under little restraint, and having no particular

education suited to their function, are universally fallen into such

contempt that they are never permitted to aspire to the dignities of

their own Church. It is not held respectful to call them _Papas_, their

true and ancient appellation, but those who wish to address them with

civility always call them _Hieromonachi_. In consequence of this

disrespect, which I venture to say, in such a Church, must be the

consequence of a secular life, a very great degeneracy from reputable

Christian manners has taken place throughout almost the whole of that

great member of the Christian Church.

It was so with the Latin Church, before the restraint on marriage. Even

that restraint gave rise to the greatest disorders before the Council of

Trent, which, together with the emulation raised and the good examples

given by the Reformed churches, wherever they were in view of each

other, has brought on that happy amendment which we see in the Latin

communion, both at home and abroad.

The Council of Trent has wisely introduced the discipline of seminaries,

by which priests are not trusted for a clerical institution even to the

severe discipline of their colleges, but, after they pass through them,

are frequently, if not for the greater part, obliged to pass through

peculiar methods, having their particular ritual function in view. It is

in a great measure to this, and to similar methods used in foreign

education, that the Roman Catholic clergy of Ireland, miserably provided

for, living among low and ill-regulated people, without any discipline

of sufficient force to secure good manners, have been prevented from

becoming an intolerable nuisance to the country, instead of being, as I

conceive they generally are, a very great service to it.

The ministers of Protestant churches require a different mode of

education, more liberal, and more fit for the ordinary intercourse of

life. That religion having little hold on the minds of people by

external ceremonies and extraordinary observances, or separate habits of

living, the clergy make up the deficiency by cultivating their minds

with all kinds of ornamental learning, which the liberal provision made

in England and Ireland for the parochial clergy, (to say nothing of the

ample Church preferments, with little or no duties annexed,) and the

comparative lightness of parochial duties, enables the greater part of

them in some considerable degree to accomplish.

This learning, which I believe to be pretty general, together with an

higher situation, and more chastened by the opinion of mankind, forms a

sufficient security for the morals of the established clergy, and for

their sustaining their clerical character with dignity. It is not

necessary to observe, that all these things are, however, collateral to

their function, and that, except in preaching, which may be and is

supplied, and often best supplied, out of printed books, little else is

necessary for a Protestant minister than to be able to read the English

language,--I mean for the exercise of his function, not to the

qualification of his admission to it. But a Popish parson in Ireland may

do very well without any considerable classical erudition, or any

proficiency in pure or mixed mathematics, or any knowledge of civil

history. Even if the Catholic clergy should possess those acquisitions,

as at first many of them do, they soon lose them in the painful course

of professional and parochial duties: but they must have all the

knowledge, and, what is to them more important than the knowledge, the

discipline, necessary to those duties. All modes of education conducted

by those whose minds are cast in another mould, as I may say, and whose

original ways of thinking are formed upon the reverse pattern, must be

to them not only useless, but mischievous. Just as I should suppose the

education in a Popish ecclesiastical seminary would be ill fitted for a

Protestant clergyman. To educate a Catholic priest in a Protestant

seminary would be much worse. The Protestant educated amongst Catholics

has only something to reject: what he keeps may be useful. But a

Catholic parish priest learns little for his peculiar purpose and duty

in a Protestant college.

All this, my Lord, I know very well, will pass for nothing with those

who wish that the Popish clergy should be illiterate, and in a situation

to produce contempt and detestation. Their minds are wholly taken up

with party squabbles, and I have neither leisure nor inclination to

apply any part of what I have to say to those who never think of

religion or of the commonwealth in any other light than as they tend to

the prevalence of some faction in either. I speak on a supposition that

there is a disposition _to take the state in the condition in which it

is found_, and to improve it _in that state_ to the best advantage.

Hitherto the plan for the government of Ireland has been to sacrifice

the civil prosperity of the nation to its religious improvement. But if

people in power there are at length come to entertain other ideas, they

will consider the good order, decorum, virtue, and morality of every

description of men among them as of infinitely greater importance than

the struggle (for it is nothing better) to change those descriptions by

means which put to hazard objects which, in my poor opinion, are of more

importance to religion and to the state than all the polemical matter

which has been agitated among men from the beginning of the world to

this hour.

On this idea, an education fitted _to each order and division of men,

such as they are found_, will be thought an affair rather to be

encouraged than discountenanced; and until institutions at home,

suitable to the occasions and necessities of the people, are

established, and which are armed, as they are abroad, with authority to

coerce the young men to be formed in them by a strict and severe

discipline, the means they have at present of a cheap and effectual

education in other countries should not continue to be prohibited by

penalties and modes of inquisition not fit to be mentioned to ears that

are organized to the chaste sounds of equity and justice.

Before I had written thus far, I heard of a scheme of giving to the

Castle the patronage of the presiding members of the Catholic clergy. At

first I could scarcely credit it; for I believe it is the first time

that the presentation to other people's alms has been desired in any

country. If the state provides a suitable maintenance and temporality

for the governing members of the Irish Roman Catholic Church, and for

the clergy under them, I should think the project, however improper in

other respects, to be by no means unjust. But to deprive a poor people,

who maintain a second set of clergy, out of the miserable remains of

what is left after taxing and tithing, to deprive them of the

disposition of their own charities among their own communion, would, in

my opinion, be an intolerable hardship. Never were the members of one

religious sect fit to appoint the pastors to another. Those who have no

regard for their welfare, reputation, or internal quiet will not appoint

such as are proper. The seraglio of Constantinople is as equitable as we

are, whether Catholics or Protestants,--and where their own sect is

concerned, full as religious. But the sport which they make of the

miserable dignities of the Greek Church, the little factions of the

harem to which they make them subservient, the continual sale to which

they expose and reëxpose the same dignity, and by which they squeeze all

the inferior orders of the clergy, is (for I have had particular means

of being acquainted with it) nearly equal to all the other oppressions

together, exercised by Mussulmen over the unhappy members of the

Oriental Church. It is a great deal to suppose that even the present

Castle would nominate bishops for the Roman Church of Ireland with a

religious regard for its welfare. Perhaps they cannot, perhaps they dare

not do it.

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