Now to India. I observed the other day that the Bishop of Lahore

said--and his words put in a very convenient form what is in the minds

of those who think about Indian questions at all--"It is my deep

conviction that we have reached a point of the utmost gravity and of

far-reaching effect in our continued relations with this land, and I

most heartily wish there were more signs that this fact was clearly

recognised by the bulk of Englishmen out here in India, or even by our

rulers themselves." Now you and the democratic constituencies of this

kingdom are the rulers of India. It is to you, therefore, that I come

to render my account. Just let us see where we are. Let us put the

case. When critics assail Indian policy or any given aspect of it, I

want to know where we start from? Some of you in Arbroath wrote to

me, a year ago, and called upon me to defend the system of Indian

Government and the policy for which I am responsible. I declined, for

reasons that I stated at the moment. I am here to answer to-night,

when the time makes it more fitting in anticipation all those

difficulties which some excellent people, with whom in many ways I

sympathise, feel. Again, I say, let us see where we start from. Does

anybody want me to go to London to-morrow morning, and to send a

telegram to Lord Kitchener, the Commander-in-Chief in India, and tell

him that he is to disband the Indian army, to send home as fast as we

can despatch transports, the British contingent of the army, and bring

away the whole of the Civil servants? Suppose it to be true, as

some people in Arbroath seem to have thought--I am not arguing the

question--that Great Britain loses more than she gains; supposing it

to be true that India would have worked out her own salvation without

us; supposing it to be true that the present Government of India has

many defects--supposing all that to be true, do you want me to send

a telegram to Lord Kitchener to-morrow morning to clear out bag and

baggage? How should we look in the face of the civilised world if we

had so turned our back upon our duty and sovereign task? How should we

bear the smarting stings of our own consciences, when, as assuredly

we should, we heard through the dark distances the roar and scream of

confusion and carnage in India? Then people of this way of thinking

say "That is not what we meant." Then what is it that is meant,

gentlemen? The outcome, the final outcome, of British rule in India

may be a profitable topic for the musings of meditative minds. But we

are not here to muse. We have the duty of the day to perform, we have

the tasks of to-morrow spread out before us. In the interests of

India, to say nothing of our own national honour, in the name of duty

and of common sense, our first and commanding task is to keep order

and to quell violences among race and creed; sternly to insist on the

impartial application of rules of justice, independent of European or

of Indian. We begin from that. We have got somehow or other, whatever

the details of policy and executive act may be, we are bound by the

first law of human things to maintain order.

There are plenty of difficulties in this immense task in England, and

I am not sure that I will exclude Scotland, but I said England in

order to save your feelings. One of the obstacles is the difficulty of

finding out for certain what actually happens. Scare headlines in the

bills of important journals are misleading. I am sure many of you must

know the kind of mirror that distorts features, elongates lines, makes

round what is lineal, and so forth. I assure you that a mirror of that

kind does not give you a more grotesque reproduction of the human

physiognomy, than some of these tremendous telegrams give you as to

what is happening in India. Another point is that the Press is very

often flooded with letters from Indians or ex-Indians--from _Indicus

olim_, and others--too oftened coloured with personal partisanship and

deep-dyed prepossessions. There is a spirit of caste outside the Hindu

sphere. There is a great deal of writing on the Indian Government by

men who have acquired the habit while they were in the Government,

and then unluckily retain the habit after they come home and live, or

ought to live, in peace and quietness among their friends here. That

is another of our difficulties. Still, when all such difficulties

are measured and taken account of, it is impossible to overrate the

courage, the patience and fidelity, with which the present House of

Commons faces what is not at all an easy moment in Indian Government.

You talk of democracy. People cry, "Oh! Democracy cannot govern remote

dependencies." I do not know; it is a hard question. So far, after

one Session of the most Liberal Parliament that has ever sat in Great

Britain, this most democratic Parliament so far at all events, has

safely rounded an extremely difficult angle. It is quite true that in

reference to a certain Indian a Conservative member rashly called out

one night in the House of Commons "Why don't you shoot him?" The whole

House, Tories, Radicals, and Labour men, they all revolted against any

such doctrine as that; and I augur from the proceedings of the last

Session--with courage, patience, good sense, and willingness to learn,

that democracy, in this case at all events, has shown, and I think is

going to show, its capacity for facing all our problems.

Now, I sometimes say to friends of mine in the House, and I venture

respectfully to say it to you--there is one tremendous fallacy which

it is indispensable for you to banish from your minds, taking the

point of view of a British Liberal, when you think of India. It was

said the other day--no, I beg your pardon, it was alleged to have been

said--by a British Member of Parliament now travelling in India--That

whatever is good in the way of self-government for Canada, must be

good for India. In my view that is the most concise statement that

I can imagine, of the grossest fallacy in all politics. It is a

thoroughly dangerous fallacy. I think it is the hollowest and, I am

sorry to say, the commonest, of all the fallacies in the history of

the world in all stages of civilisation. Because a particular policy

or principle is true and expedient and vital in certain definite

circumstances, therefore it must be equally true and vital in a

completely different set of circumstances. What sophism can be more

gross and dangerous? You might just as well say that, because a fur

coat in Canada at certain times of the year is a truly comfortable

garment, therefore a fur coat in the Deccan is just the very garment

that you would be delighted to wear. I only throw it out to you as

an example and an illustration. Where the historical traditions, the

religious beliefs, the racial conditions, are all different--there to

transfer by mere untempered and cast-iron logic all the conclusions

that you apply in one case to the other, is the height of political

folly, and I trust that neither you nor I will ever lend ourselves to

any extravagant doctrine of that species.

You may say, Ah, you are laying down very different rules of policy in

India from those which for the best part of your life you laid down

for Ireland. Yes, but that reproach will only have a sting in it, if

you persuade me that Ireland with its history, the history of the

Rebellion, Union and all the other chapters of that dismal tale, is

exactly analogous to the 300 millions of people in India. I am not at

all afraid of facing your test. I cannot but remember that in speaking

to you, I may be speaking to people many thousands of miles away, but

all the same I shall speak to you and to them perfectly frankly. I

don't myself believe in artful diplomacy; I have no gift for it. There

are two sets of people you have got to consider. First of all, I hope

that the Government of India, so long as I am connected with it and

responsible for it to Parliament and to the country, will not be

hurried by the anger of the impatient idealist. The impatient

idealist--you know him. I know him. I like him, I have been one

myself. He says, "You admit that so and so is right; why don't you do

it--why don't you do it now?" Whether he is an Indian idealist or a

British idealist I sympathise with him. Ah! gentlemen, how many of

the most tragic miscarriages in human history have been due to the

impatience of the idealist! (Loud cheers.) I should like to ask the

Indian idealist, whether it is a good way of procuring what everybody

desires, a reduction of Military expenditure, for example, whether it

is a good way of doing that, to foment a spirit of strife in India

which makes reduction of Military forces difficult, which makes the

maintenance of Military force indispensable? Is it a good way to help

reformers like Lord Minto and myself, in carrying through political

reform, to inflame the minds of those who listen to such teachers, to

inflame their minds with the idea that our proposals and projects are

shams? Assuredly it is not.

And I will say this, gentlemen. Do not think there is a single

responsible leader of the reform party in India, who does not deplore

the outbreak of disorder that we have had to do our best to put down;

who does not agree that disorder, whatever your ultimate policy may

be--must be with a firm hand put down. If India to-morrow became a

self-governing Colony--disorder would still have to be put down with

an iron hand; I do not know and I do not care, to whom these gentlemen

propose to hand over the charge of governing India. Whoever they might

be, depend upon it that the maintenance of order is the foundation

of anything like future progress. If any of you hear unfavourable

language applied to me as your representative, do me the justice to

remember considerations of that kind. To nobody in this world, by

habit, by education, by experience, by views expressed in political

affairs for a great many years past, to nobody is exceptional

repression, more distasteful than it is to me. After all, gentlemen,

you would not have me see men try to set the prairie on fire without

arresting the hand. You would not blame me when I saw men smoking

their pipes near powder magazines, you would not blame me, you would

not call me an arch coercionist, if I said, "Away with the men and

away with the pipes." We have not allowed ourselves--I speak of the

Indian Government--to be hurried into the policy of repression. I

say this to what I would call the idealist party. Then I would say

something to those who talk nonsense about apathy and supineness. We

will not be hurried into repression, any more than we will be hurried

into the other direction. This party, which is very vocal in this

country, say:--Oh! we are astonished, and India is astonished, and

amazed at the licence that you extend to newspapers and to speakers;

why don't you stop it? Orientals, they say, do not understand it.

Yes, but just let us look at that. We are not Orientals; that is the

root of the matter. We are in India. We English, Scotch, and Irish,

are in India because we are not Orientals. We are representatives, not

of Oriental civilisation, but of Western civilisation, of its methods,

its principles, its practices; and I for one will not be hurried into

an excessive haste for repression, by the argument that Orientals do

not understand patience or toleration.

You will want to know how the situation is viewed at this moment in

India itself, by those who are responsible for the Government of

India. This view is not a new view at all. It is that the situation is

not gravely dangerous, but it requires serious and urgent attention.

That seems for the moment to be the verdict. Extremists are few, but

they are active; their field is wide, their nets are far spread.

Anybody who has read history knows that the Extremist often beats the

Moderate by his fire, his heated energy, his concentration, by his

very narrowness. So be it; we remember it; we watch it all, with that

lesson of historic experience full in our minds. Yet we still hold

that it would be the height of political folly for us at this moment

to refuse to do all we can, with prudence and energy, to rally the

Moderates to the cause of the Government, simply because the policy

will not satisfy the Extremists. Let us, if we can, rally the

Moderates, and if we are told that the policy will not satisfy the

Extremists, so be it. Our line will remain the same. It is the height

of folly to refuse to rally sensible people, because we do not satisfy

Extremists. I am detaining you unmercifully, but I doubt whether--and

do not think I say it because it happens to be my department--of all

the questions that are to be discussed perhaps for years to come, any

question can be in all its actual foundations, and all its prospective

bearings, more important than the question of India. There are many

aspects of it which it is not possible for me to go into, as, for

example, some of its Military aspects. I repeat my doubt whether there

is any question more commanding at this moment, and for many a day to

come, than the one which I am impressing upon you to-night. Is all

that is called unrest in India mere froth? Or is it a deep rolling

flood? Is it the result of natural order and wholesome growth in

this vast community? Is it natural effervescence, or is it deadly

fermentation? Is India with all its heterogeneous populations--is it

moving slowly and steadily to new and undreamt of unity? It is the

vagueness of the discontent, which is not universal--it is the

vagueness that makes it harder to understand, harder to deal with.

Some of them are angry with me. Why? Because I have not been able to

give them the moon. I have got no moon, and if I had I would not part

with it. I will give the moon, when I know who lives there, and what

kind of conditions prevail there.

I want, if I may, to make a little literary digression. Much of this

movement arises from the fact that there is now a large body

of educated Indians who have been fed, at our example and our

instigation, upon some of the great teachers and masters of this

country, Milton, Burke, Macaulay, Mill, and Spencer. Surely it is a

mistake in us not to realise that these masters should have mighty

force and irresistible influence. Who can be surprised that educated

Indians who read those high masters and teachers of ours, are

intoxicated with the ideas of freedom, nationality, self-government,

that breathes the breath of life in those inspiring and illuminating

pages. Who of us that had the privilege in the days of our youth, at

college or at home, of turning over those golden chapters, and seeing

that lustrous firmament dawn over our youthful imaginations--who of us

can forget, shall I call it the intoxication and rapture, with which

we strove to make friends with truth, knowledge, beauty, freedom? Then

why should we be surprised that young Indians feel the same movement

of mind, when they are made free of our own immortals. I would only

say this to my idealist friends, whether Indian or European, that for

every passage that they can find in Mill, or Burke, or Macaulay,

or, any other of our lofty sages with their noble hearts and potent

brains, I will find them a dozen passages in which history is shown to

admonish us, in the language of Burke--"How weary a step do those

take who endeavour to make out of a great mass a true political

personality!" They are words much to be commended to those zealots

in India--how many a weary step has to be taken before they can form

themselves into a mass that has a true political personality! My

warning may be wasted, but anybody who has a chance ought to try to

appeal to the better, the riper, mind of educated India. Time has gone

on with me, experience has widened. I have never lost my invincible

faith that there is a better mind in all civilised communities--and

that this better mind, if you can reach it, if statesmen in time to

come can reach that better mind, can awaken it, can evoke it, can

induce it to apply itself to practical purposes for the improvement

of the conditions of such a community, they will earn the crown of

beneficent fame indeed. Nothing strikes me much more than this, when

I talk of the better mind of India--there are subtle elements,

religious, spiritual, mystical, traditional, historical in what we may

call for the moment the Indian mind, which are very hard for the most

candid and patient to grasp or to realise in their full force. But our

duty, and it is a splendid duty, is to try. I always remember a little

passage in the life of a great Anglo-Indian, Sir Henry Lawrence, a

very simple passage, and it is this, "No one ever ate at Sir Henry

Lawrence's table without learning to think more kindly of the

natives." I wish I could know that at every Anglo-Indian table to-day,

nobody has sat down without leaving it having learned to think a

little more kindly of the natives. One more word on this point. Bad

manners, overbearing manners are disagreeable in all countries: India

is the only country where bad and overbearing manners are a political

crime.

The Government have been obliged to take measures of repression; they

may be obliged to take more. But we have not contented ourselves with

measures of repression. Those of you who have followed Indian matters

at all during the last two or three months are aware there is a reform

scheme, a scheme to give the Indians chances of coming more closely

and responsibly into a share of the Government of their country. The

Government of India issued certain proposals expressly marked as

provisional and tentative. There was no secret hatching of a new

Constitution. Their circular was sent about to obtain an expression

of Indian opinion, official and non-official. Plenty of time has been

given, and is to be given, for an examination and discussion of these

proposals. We shall not be called upon to give an official decision

until spring next year, and I shall not personally be called upon for

a decision before the middle of next Session. One step we have taken

to which I attach the greatest importance. Two Indians have for the

first time been appointed to be members of the Council of India

sitting at Whitehall. I appointed these two gentlemen, not only to

advise the Secretary of State in Council, not only to help to keep him

in touch with Indian opinion and Indian interests, but as a marked

and conspicuous proof on the highest scale, by placing them on this

important and ruling body, that we no longer mean to keep Indians at

arm's length or shut the door of the Council Chamber of the paramount

power against them. Let me press this important point upon you.

The root of the unrest, discontent, and sedition, so far as I can make

out after constant communication with those who have better chances of

knowing the problem at first hand, than I could have had--the root of

the matter is racial and social not political. That being so, it is

of a kind that is the very hardest to reach. You can reach political

sentiment. This goes deeper. Racial dislike is a dislike not of

political domination, but of racial domination; and my object in

making that conspicuous change in the constitution of the Council

of India which advises the Secretary of State for India, was to do

something, and if rightly understood and interpreted to do a great

deal, to teach all English officers and governors in India, from the

youngest Competition wallah who arrives there, that in the eyes of the

ruling Government at home, the Indian is perfectly worthy of a place,

be it small or great, in the counsels of those who make and carry on

the laws and the administration of the community to which he belongs.

We stand by this position not in words alone; we have shown it in act

and shall show it further.

There is one more difficulty--there are two difficulties--and I must

ask you for a couple of minutes. I only need name them--famine and

plague. At this moment, when you have thought and argued out all

these political things, the Government of India still remains a grim

business. If there are no rains this month, the spectre of famine

seems to be approaching, and nobody can blame us for that. Nobody

expects the Viceroy and the Secretary of State to play the part of

Elijah on Mount Carmel, who prayed and saw a little cloud like a man's

hand, until the heavens became black with winds and cloud, and there

was a great rain. That is beyond the reach of Government. All we can

say is that never before was the Government in all its branches and

members found more ready than it is now, to do the very best to face

the prospect. Large suspensions of revenue and rent will be granted,

allowances will be made to distressed cultivators. No stone will be

left unturned. The plague figures are terrible enough. At this season

plague mortality is generally quiescent; but this year, even if the

last three months of it show no rise, the plague mortality will still

be the worst that has ever been known, I think, in India's recorded

annals. Pestilence during the last nine months has stalked through

the land, wasting her cities and villages, uncontrolled and

uncontrollable, so far as we can tell, by human forethought or care.

When I read some of these figures in the House of Commons, a few

perturbed cries of "Shame" accompanied them. These cries came from the

natural sympathy, horror, amazement, and commiseration, with which we

all listen to such ghastly stories. The shame does not lie with the

Government. If you see anything in your newspapers about these plague

figures, remember that they are not like an epidemic here. In trying

to remedy plague, you have to encounter the habits and prejudices of

hundreds of years. Suppose you find plague is conveyed by a flea upon

a rat, and suppose you are dealing with a population who object to

the taking away of life. You see for yourselves the difficulty? The

Government of India have applied themselves with great energy, with

fresh activity, and they believe they have got the secret of this fell

disaster. They have laid down a large policy of medical, sanitary, and

financial aid. I am a hardened niggard of public money. I watch the

expenditure of Indian revenue as the ferocious dragon of the old

mythology watched the golden apples. I do not forget that I come

from a constituency which, so far as I have known it, if it is most

generous, is also most prudent. Nevertheless, though I have to be

thrifty, almost parsimonious, upon this matter, the Council of India

and myself will, I am sure, not stint or grudge. I can only say, in

conclusion, that I think I have said enough to convince you that I

am doing what I believe you would desire me to do--conducting

administration in the spirit which I believe you will approve;

listening with impartiality to all I can learn; desirous to support

all those who are toiling at arduous work in India; and that we shall

not be deterred from pursuing to the end, a policy of firmness on the

one hand, and of liberal and steady reform on the other. We shall not

see all the fruits of it in our day. So be it. We shall at least have

made not only a beginning, but a marked advance both in order

and progress, by resolute patience, and an unflagging spirit of

conciliation.

III

AN AMENDMENT TO THE ADDRESS

(HOUSE OF COMMONS. JAN. 31, 1908)

DR. RUTHERFORD (Middlesex, Brentford) rose to move as an Amendment

to the Address, at the end to add,--"But humbly submits that the

present condition of affairs in India demands the immediate and

serious attention of his Majesty's Government; that the present

proposals of the Government of India are inadequate to allay the

existing and growing discontent; and that comprehensive measures

of reform are imperatively necessary in the direction of giving

the people of India control over their own affairs."

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER, I think the House will allow me in the remarks

that I wish to make, to refer to a communication that I had received,

namely, the decision arrived at by the Transvaal Government in respect

to the question of Asiatics. Everybody in the House is aware of the

enormous interest, even passionate interest, that has been taken in

this subject, especially in India, and for very good reasons. Without

further preface let me say, this is the statement received by Lord

Elgin from the Government of the Transvaal last night:--"Gandhi and

other leaders of the Indian and Chinese communities have offered

voluntary registration in a body within three months, provided

signatures only are taken of educated, propertied, or well-known

Asiatics, and finger-prints of the others, and that no question

against which Asiatics have religious objections be pressed. The

Transvaal Government have accepted this offer, and undertaken, pending

registration, not to enforce the penalties under the Act against all

those who register. The sentences of all Asiatics in prison will be

remitted to-morrow." Lord Selborne adds, "This course was agreed to by

both political parties." I am sure that everybody in the House will

think that very welcome news. I do not like to let the matter drop

without saying a word--I am sure Lord Elgin would like me to say

it--in recognition of the good spirit shown by the Transvaal

Government.

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