Now I come to the subject of the disorders. I am extremely s

INDIAN SPEECHES

(1907-1909)

BY VISCOUNT MORLEY

OM

_The modern and Western spirit is assuredly at work in the Indian

countries, but the vital question for Indian Governments is, How far

it has changed the ideas of men_?--SIR HENRY MAINE.

1909

NOTE

A signal transaction is now taking place in the course of Indian

polity. These speeches, with no rhetorical pretensions, contain some

of the just, prudent, and necessary points and considerations, that

have guided this transaction, and helped to secure for it the sanction

of Parliament. The too limited public that follows Indian affairs with

coherent attention, may find this small sheaf of speeches, revised as

they have been, to be of passing use. Three cardinal State-papers have

been appended. They mark the spirit of British rule in India, at three

successive stages, for three generations past; and bear directly upon

what is now being done.

_November_, 1909.

CONTENTS

I. ON PRESENTING THE INDIAN BUDGET. (House of Commons, June 6, 1907)

II. TO CONSTITUENTS. (Arbroath, October 21, 1907)

III. ON AMENDMENT TO ADDRESS. (House of Commons, January 31, 1908)

IV. INDIAN CIVIL SERVICE. (London, July, 1908)

V. ON PROPOSED REFORMS. (House of Lords, December 17, 1908)

VI. HINDUS AND MAHOMETANS. (January, 1909)

VII. SECOND READING OF INDIAN COUNCILS BILL. (House of Lords)

VIII. INDIAN PROBATIONERS. (Oxford, June 13, 1909)

APPENDIX

THREE STATE-PAPERS: 1833, 1858, 1908

INDIAN SPEECHES

I

ON PRESENTING THE INDIAN BUDGET

(HOUSE OF COMMONS. JUNE 6, 1907)

I am afraid I shall have to ask the House for rather a large draft

upon its indulgence. The Indian Secretary is like the aloe, that

blooms once in 100 years: he only troubles the House with speeches

of his own once in twelve months. There are several topics which the

House will expect me to say something about, and of these are two or

three topics of supreme interest and importance, for which I plead for

patience and comprehensive consideration. We are too apt to find that

Gentlemen both here and outside fix upon some incident of which they

read in the newspaper; they put it under a microscope; they indulge

in reflections upon it; and they regard that as taking an intelligent

interest in the affairs of India. If we could suppose that on some

occasion within the last three or four weeks a wrong turn had been

taken in judgment at Simla, or in the Cabinet, or in the India Office,

or that to-day in this House some wrong turn might be taken, what

disasters would follow, what titanic efforts to repair these

disasters, what devouring waste of national and Indian treasure, and

what a wreckage might follow! These are possible consequences that

misjudgment either here or in India might bring with it.

Sir, I believe I am not going too far when I say that this is almost,

if not quite, the first occasion upon which what is called the British

democracy in its full strength has been brought directly face to face

with the difficulties of Indian Government in all their intricacies,

all their complexities, all their subtleties, and above all in their

enormous magnitude. Last year when I had the honour of addressing the

House on the Indian Budget, I observed, as many have done before me,

that it is one of the most difficult experiments ever tried in human

history, whether you can carry on, what you will have to try to carry

on in India--personal government along with free speech and free right

of public meeting. This which last year was partially a speculative

question, has this year become more or less actual, and that is a

question which I shall by and by have to submit to the House. I want

to set out the case as frankly as I possibly can. I want, if I may

say so without presumption, to take the House into full confidence so

far--and let nobody quarrel with this provision--as public interests

allow. I will beg the House to remember that we do not only hear one

another; we are ourselves this afternoon overheard. Words that may be

spoken here, are overheard in the whole kingdom. They are overheard

thousands of miles away by a vast and complex community. They are

overheard by others who are doing the service and work of the Crown in

India. By those, too, who take part in the immense work of commercial

and non-official life in India. We are overheard by great Indian

princes who are outside British India. We are overheard by the dim

masses of Indians whom, in spite of all, we shall persist in regarding

as our friends. We are overheard by those whom, I am afraid, we must

reluctantly call our enemies. This is the reason why everybody who

speaks to-day, certainly including myself, must use language that is

well advised, language of reserve, and, as I say again, the fruit of

comprehensive consideration.

The Budget is a prosperity Budget. We have, however, to admit that

a black shadow falls across the prospect. The plague figures are

appalling. But do not let us get unreasonably dismayed, even about

these appalling figures. If we reviewed the plague figures up to last

December, we might have hoped that the horrible scourge was on the

wane. From 92,000 deaths in the year 1900, the figures went up to

1,100,000 in 1904, while in 1905 they exceeded 1,000,000. In 1906

a gleam of hope arose, and the mortality sank to something under

350,000. The combined efforts of Government and people had produced

that reduction; but, alas, since January, 1907, plague has again

flared up in districts that have been filled with its terror for a

decade; and for the first four months of this year the deaths amounted

to 642,000, which exceeded the record for the same period in any past

year. You must remember that we have to cover a very vast area. I do

not know that these figures would startle us if we took the area of

the whole of Europe. It was in 1896 that this plague first appeared in

India, and up to April, 1907, the total figure of the human beings who

have died is 5,250,000. But dealing with a population of 300,000,000,

this dire mortality, although enormous, is not at all comparable with

the results of the black death and other scourges, that spread over

Europe in earlier times, in proportion to the population. The plague

mortality in 1904 (the worst complete year) would only represent,

if evenly distributed, a death-rate of about 3 per 1,000. But it is

local, and particularly centres in the Punjab, the United Provinces,

and in Bombay. I do not think that anybody who has been concerned in

India--I do not care to what school of Indian thought he belongs--can

deny that measures for the extermination and mitigation of this

disease have occupied the most serious, constant, unflagging, zealous,

and energetic attention of the Indian Government. But the difficulties

we encounter are manifold, as many Members of the House are well

aware. It is possible that hon. Members may rise and say that we are

not enforcing with sufficient zeal proper sanitary rules; and, on the

other hand, I dare say that other hon. Members will get up to show

that the great difficulty in the way of sanitary rules being observed,

arises from the reluctance of the population to practise them. That

is perfectly natural and is well understood. They are a suspicious

population, and we all know that, when these new rules are forced

upon them, they constantly resent and resist them. A policy of severe

repression is worse than useless. I will not detain the House with

particulars of all the proceedings we have taken in dealing with

the plague. But I may say that we have instituted a long scientific

inquiry with the aid of the Royal Society and the Lister Institute.

Then we have very intelligent officers, who have done all they could

to trace the roots of the disease, and to discover if they could, any

means to prevent it. It is a curious thing that, while there appears

to be no immunity from this frightful scourge for the natives,

Europeans enjoy almost entire immunity from the disease. That is

difficult to understand or to explain.

Now as to opium, I know that a large number of Members in the House

are interested in it. Judging by the voluminous correspondence that I

receive, all the Churches and both political Parties are sincerely and

deeply interested in the question, and I was going to say that the

resolutions with which they have favoured me often use the expression

"righteousness before revenue." The motto is excellent, but its virtue

will be cheap and shabby, if you only satisfy your own righteousness

at the expense of other people's revenue.

Mr. LUPTON: We are quite ready to bear the expense.

Mr. MORLEY: My hon. friend says they are quite prepared to bear the

expense. I commend that observation cheerfully to the Chancellor of

the Exchequer. This question touches the consciences of the people of

the country. My hon. friend sometimes goes a little far; still, he

represents a considerable body of feeling. Last May, when the opium

question was raised in this House, something fell from me which

reached the Chinese Government, and the Chinese Government, on the

strength of that utterance of mine, made in the name of His Majesty's

Government, have persistently done their best to come to some sort

of arrangement and understanding with His Majesty's Government. In

September an Imperial decree was issued in China ordering the strict

prohibition of the consumption and cultivation of opium, with a view

to ultimate eradication in ten years. Communications were made to

the Foreign Secretary, and since then there has been a considerable

correspondence, some of which the House is, by Question and Answer,

acquainted with. The Chinese Government have been uniformly assured,

not only by my words spoken in May, but by the Foreign Secretary, that

the sympathy of this country was with the objects set forth in their

decree of September. Then a very important incident, as I regard

it, and one likely by-and-bye to prove distinctly fruitful, was the

application by the United States Government to our Government, as to

whether there should not be a joint inquiry into the opium traffic by

the United States and the other Powers concerned. The House knows,

by Question and Answer, that His Majesty's Government judge that

procedure by way of Commission rather than by way of Conference is the

right way to approach the question. But no one can doubt for a moment,

considering the honourable interest the United States have shown on

previous occasions, that some good result will come with time and

persistence.

I will not detain the House with the details, but certainly it is a

true satisfaction to know that a great deal of talk as to the Chinese

interest in the suppression of opium being fictitious is unreal. I was

much struck by a sentence written by the correspondent of _The Times_

at Peking recently. Everybody who knows him, is aware that he is not

a sentimentalist, and he used remarkable language. He said that

he viewed the development in China of the anti-opium movement as

encouraging; that the movement was certainly popular, and was

supported by the entire native Press; while a hopeful sign was that

the use of opium was fast becoming unfashionable, and would become

more so. A correspondence, so far as the Government of India is

concerned, is now in progress. Those of my hon. friends who think we

are lacking perhaps in energy and zeal I would refer to the language

used by Mr. Baker, the very able finance member of the Viceroy's

Council, because these words really define the position of the

Government of India--

"What the eventual outcome will be, it is impossible to foresee.

The practical difficulties which China has imposed on herself are

enormous, and may prove insuperable, but it is evident that the

gradual reduction and eventual extinction of the revenue that

India has derived from the trade, has been brought a stage nearer,

and it is necessary for us to be prepared for whatever may

happen."

He added that twenty years ago, or even less, the prospect of losing a

revenue of five and a half crores of rupees a year would have caused

great anxiety, and even now the loss to Indian finances would be

serious, and might necessitate recourse to increased taxation. But if,

as they had a clear right to expect, the transition was effected

with due regard to finance, and was spread over a term of years, the

consequence need not be regarded with apprehension.

When I approach military expenditure, and war and the dangers of

war, I think I ought to say a word about the visit of the Ameer of

Afghanistan, which excited so much attention, and kindled so lively an

interest in great parts, not only of our own dominions, but in Asia.

I am persuaded that we have reason to look back on that visit with

entire and complete satisfaction. His Majesty's Government, previously

to the visit of the Ameer instructed the Governor-General in Council

on no account to open any political questions with the Ameer. That was

really part of the conditions of the Ameer's visit; and the result

of that policy has been to place our relations with the Ameer on an

eminently satisfactory footing, a far better footing than would have

been arrived at by any formal premeditated convention. The Ameer

himself made a speech when he arrived at Kabul on his return, and I

am aware that in this speech I come to a question of what may seem

a Party or personal character, with which it is not in the least my

intention to deal. This is what the Ameer said on 10th April--

"The officers of the Government of India never said a word on

political matters, they kept their promise. But as to myself,

whenever and wherever I found an opportunity, I spoke indirectly

on several matters which concerned the interests of my country and

nation. The other side never took undue advantage of it, and

never discussed with me on those points which I mentioned. His

Excellency's invitation (Lord Minto's) to me was in such a proper

form, that I had no objection to accept it. The invitation which

he sent was worded in quite a different form from that of the

invitation which I received on the occasion of the Delhi Durbar.

In the circumstances I had determined to undergo all risks (at the

time of the Delhi Durbar) and, if necessary, to sacrifice all my

possessions and my own life, but not to accept such an invitation

as was sent to me for coming to join the Delhi Durbar."

These thing are far too serious for me or any of us to indulge in

controversy upon, but it is a satisfaction to be able to point out

to the House that the policy we instructed the Governor-General to

follow, has so far worked extremely well.

I will go back to the Army. Last year when I referred to this subject,

I told the House that it would be my object to remove any defects that

I and those who advise me might discover in the Army system, and more

especially, of course, in the schemes of Lord Kitchener. Since then,

with the assistance of two very important Committees, well qualified

by expert military knowledge, I came to the conclusion that an

improved equipment was required. Hon. Gentlemen may think that my

opinion alone would not be worth much; but, after all, civilians have

got to decide these questions, and, provided that they arm themselves

with the expert knowledge of military authorities, it is rightly their

voice that settles the matter. Certain changes were necessary in

the allocation of units in order to enable the troops to be better

trained, and therefore our final conclusion was that the special

military expenditure shown in the financial statement must go on for

some years more. But the House will see that we have arranged to cut

down the rate of the annual grant, and we have taken care--and this,

I think, ought to be set down to our credit--that every estimate for

every item included in the programme shall be submitted to vigilant

scrutiny here as well as in India. I have no prepossession in favour

of military expenditure, but the pressure of facts, the pressure of

the situation, the possibilities of contingencies that may arise, seem

obviously to make it impossible for any Government or any Minister to

acquiesce in the risks on the Indian frontier. We have to consider

not only our position with respect to foreign Powers on the Indian

frontier, but the exceedingly complex questions that arise in

connection with the turbulent border tribes. All these things make

it impossible--I say nothing about internal conditions--for any

Government or any Minister with a sense of responsibility to cancel

or to deal with the military programme in any high-handed or cavalier

way.

Next I come to what, I am sure, is first in the minds of most Members

of the House--the political and social condition of India. Lord Minto

became Viceroy, I think, in November, 1905, and the present Government

succeeded to power in the first week of December. Now much of the

criticism that I have seen on the attitude of His Majesty's Government

and the Viceroy, leaves out of account the fact that we did not come

quite into a haven of serenity and peace. Very fierce monsoons had

broken out on the Olympian heights at Simla, in the camps, and in the

Councils at Downing Street. This was the inheritance into which

we came--rather a formidable inheritance for which I do not, this

afternoon, attempt to distribute the responsibility. Still, when we

came into power, our policy was necessarily guided by the conditions

under which the case had been left. Our policy was to compose the

singular conditions of controversy and confusion by which we were

faced. In the famous Army case we happily succeeded. But in Eastern

Bengal, for a time, we did not succeed. When I see newspaper articles

beginning with the preamble that the problem of India is altogether

outside party questions, I well know from experience that this is too

often apt to be the forerunner of a regular party attack. It is said

that there has been supineness, vacillation and hesitation. I reply

boldly, there has been no supineness, no vacillation, no hesitation

from December, 1905, up to the present day.

I must say a single word about one episode, and it is with sincere

regret I refer to it. It is called the Fuller episode. I have had the

pleasure of many conversations with Sir Bampfylde Fuller since his

return, and I recognise to the full his abilities, his good faith, and

the dignity and self-control with which, during all this period of

controversy, he has never for one moment attempted to defend himself,

or to plunge into any sort of contest with the Viceroy or His

Majesty's Government.[1] Conduct of that kind deserves our fullest

recognition. I recognise to the full his gifts and his experience, but

I am sure that if he were in this House, he would hardly quarrel with

me for saying that those gifts were not altogether well adapted to the

situation he had to face.

[Footnote 1: An unhappy lapse took place at a later date.]

What was the case? The Lieutenant-Governor suggested a certain course.

The Government of India thought it was a mistake, and told him so. The

Lieutenant-Governor thereupon said, "Very well, then I'm afraid I

must resign." There was nothing in all that except what was perfectly

honourable to Sir Bampfylde Fuller. But does anybody here take up this

position, that if a Lieutenant-Governor says, "If I cannot have my own

way I will resign," then the Government of India are bound to refuse

to accept that resignation? All I can say is, and I do not care who

the man may be, that if any gentleman in the Indian service says

he will resign unless he can have his own way, then so far as I

am concerned in the matter, his resignation shall be promptly and

definitely accepted. It is said to-day that Sir Bampfylde Fuller

recommended certain measures about education, and that the Government

have now adopted them. But the circumstances are completely changed.

What was thought by Lord Minto and his Council to be a rash and

inexpedient course in those days, is not thought so now that the

circumstances have changed. I will only mention one point. There was

a statement the other day in a very important newspaper that the

condition of anti-British feeling in Eastern Bengal had gained in

virulence since Sir Bampfylde Fuller's resignation. This, the Viceroy

assures me, is an absolute perversion of the facts. The whole

atmosphere has changed for the better. When I say that Lord Minto was

justified in the course he took, I say it without any prejudice to

Sir Bampfylde Fuller, or the slightest wish to injure his future

prospects.

Now I come to the subject of the disorders. I am extremely sorry to

say that some disorder has broken out in the Punjab. I think I may

assume that the House is aware of the general circumstances from

Answers to Questions. Under the Regulation of 1818 (which is still

alive), coercive measures were adopted. Here I would like to examine,

so far as I can, the action taken to preserve the public interests. It

would be quite wrong, in dealing with the unrest in the Punjab, not to

mention the circumstances that provided the fuel for the agitation.

There were ravages by the plague, and these ravages have been cruel.

The seasons have not been favourable. A third cause was an Act then on

the stocks, which was believed to be injurious to the condition of a

large body of men. Those conditions affecting the Colonisation Act

were greatly misrepresented. An Indian member of the Punjab Council

pointed out how impolitic he thought it was; and, as I told the House

about a week ago, the Viceroy, declining to be frightened by the

foolish charge of pandering to agitation and so forth, refused assent

to that proposal. But in the meantime the proposal of the colonisation

law had become a weapon in the hands of the preachers of sedition. I

suspect that the Member for East Nottingham will presently get up and

say that this mischief connected with the Colonisation Act accounted

for the disturbance. But I call attention to this fact, in order that

the House may understand whether or not the Colonisation Act was the

main cause of the disturbance. The authorities believe that it was

not. There were twenty-eight meetings known to have been held by the

leading agitators in the Punjab between 1st March, and 1st May. Of

these five only related, even ostensibly, to agricultural grievances;

the remaining twenty-three were all purely political. The figures seem

to dispose of the contention that agrarian questions are at the root

of the present unrest in the Punjab. On the contrary, it rather

looks as if there was a deliberate heating of the public atmosphere

preparatory to the agrarian meeting at Rawalpindi on the 21st April,

which gave rise to the troubles. The Lieutenant-Governor visited

twenty-seven out of twenty-nine districts. He said the situation

was serious, and it was growing worse. In this agitation special

attention, it is stated, has been paid to the Sikhs, who, as the House

is aware, are among the best soldiers in India, and in the case of

Lyallpur, to the military pensioners. Special efforts have been made

to secure their attendance at meetings to enlist their sympathies

and to inflame their passions. So far the active agitation has been

virtually confined to the districts in which the Sikh element is

predominant. Printed invitations and leaflets have been principally

addressed to villages held by Sikhs; and at a public meeting at

Ferozepore, at which disaffection was openly preached, the men of the

Sikh regiments stationed there were specially invited to attend, and

several hundreds of them acted upon the invitation. The Sikhs were

told that it was by their aid, and owing to their willingness to

shoot down their fellow countrymen in the Mutiny, that the Englishmen

retained their hold upon India. And then a particularly odious line of

appeal was adopted. It was asked, "How is it that the plague attacks

the Indians and not the Europeans?" "The Government," said these men,

"have mysterious means of spreading the plague; the Government spreads

the plague by poisoning the streams and wells." In some villages the

inhabitants have actually ceased to use the wells. I was informed only

the other day by an officer, who was in the Punjab at that moment,

that when visiting the settlements, he found the villagers disturbed

in mind on this point. He said to his men: "Open up your kits, and let

them see whether these horrible pills are in them." The men did as

they were ordered, but the suspicion was so great that people insisted

upon the glasses of the telescopes being unscrewed, in order to be

quite sure that there was no pill behind them.

See the emergency and the risk. Suppose a single native regiment had

sided with the rioters. It would have been absurd for us, knowing we

had got a weapon there at our hands by law--not an exceptional law,

but a standing law--and in the face of the risk of a conflagration,

not to use that weapon; and I for one have no apology whatever to

offer for using it. Nobody appreciates more intensely than I do the

danger, the mischief, and a thousand times in history the iniquity of

what is called "reason of State." I know all about that. It is full of

mischief and full of danger; but so is sedition, and we should have

incurred criminal responsibility if we had opposed the resort to this

law.

I do not wish to detain the House with the story of events in Eastern

Bengal and Assam. They are of a different character from those in the

Punjab, and in consequence of these disturbances the Government of

India, with my approval, have issued an Ordinance, which I am sure the

House is familiar with, under the authority and in the terms of an Act

of Parliament. The course of events in Eastern Bengal appears to have

been mainly this--first, attempts to impose the boycott on Mahomedans

by force; secondly, complaints by Hindus if the local officials stop

them, and by Mahomedans if they do not try to stop them; thirdly,

retaliation by Mahomedans; fourthly, complaints by Hindus that the

local officials do not protect them from this retaliation; fifthly,

general lawlessness of the lower classes on both sides, encouraged by

the spectacle of the fighting among the higher classes; sixthly, more

complaints against the officials. The result of the Ordinance has been

that down to May 29th it had not been necessary to take action in any

one of these districts.

I noticed an ironical look on the part of the right hon. Gentleman

when I referred with perfect freedom to my assent to the resort to the

weapon we had in the law against sedition. I have had communications

from friends of mine that, in this assent, I am outraging the

principles of a lifetime. I should be ashamed if I detained the House

more than two minutes on anything so small as the consistency of my

political life. That can very well take care of itself. I began by

saying that this is the first time that British democracy in its full

strength, as represented in this House, is face to face with the

enormous difficulties of Indian Government. Some of my hon. friends

look even more in sorrow than in anger upon this alleged backsliding

of mine. Last year I told the House that India for a long time to

come, so far as my imagination could reach, would be the theatre

of absolute and personal government, and that raised some doubts.

Reference has been made to my having resisted the Irish Crimes Act, as

if there were a scandalous inconsistency between opposing the policy

of that Act, and imposing this policy on the natives of India. That

inconsistency can only be established by anyone who takes up the

position that Ireland, a part of the United Kingdom, is exactly on the

same footing as these 300,000,000 people--composite, heterogeneous,

with different histories, of different races, different faiths. Does

anybody contend that any political principle whatever is capable

of application in every sort of circumstances without reference to

conditions--in every place, and at every time? I, at all events, have

never taken that view, and I would like to remind my hon. friends that

in such ideas as I have about political principles, the leader of my

generation was Mr. Mill. Mill was a great and benignant lamp of wisdom

and humanity, and it was at that lamp I and others kindled our modest

rushlights. What did Mill say about the government of India? Remember

he was not merely that abject and despicable being, a philosopher. He

was a man practised in government, and in what government? Why, he was

responsible, experienced, and intimately concerned in the government

of India. What did he say? If there is anybody who can be quoted as

having been a champion of representative government it is Mill; and in

his book, which, I take it, is still the classic book on that subject,

this is what he says--

"Government by the dominant country is as legitimate as any other,

if it is the one which, in the existing state of civilization of

the subject people, most facilitates their transition to a higher

state of civilization."

Then he says this--

"The ruling country ought to be able to do for its subjects

all that could be done by a succession of absolute monarchs,

guaranteed by irresistible force against the precariousness of

tenure attendant on barbarous despotisms, and qualified by their

genius to anticipate all that experience has taught to the more

advanced nations. If we do not attempt to realize this ideal we

are guilty of a dereliction of the highest moral trust that can

devolve upon a nation."

I will now ask the attention of the House for a moment while I examine

a group of communications from officers of the Indian Government, and

if the House will allow me I will tell them what to my mind is the

result of all these communications as to the general feeling in India.

That, after all, is what most concerns us. For this unrest in the

Punjab and Bengal sooner or later--and sooner, rather than later, I

hope--will pass away. What is the situation of India generally in the

view of these experienced officers at this moment? Even now when we

are passing through all the stress and anxiety, it is a mistake not to

look at things rather largely. They all admit that there is a fall in

the influence of European officers over the population. They all, or

nearly all, admit that there is estrangement--I ought to say, perhaps,

refrigeration--between officers and people. There is less sympathy

between the Government and the people. For the last few years--and

this is a very important point--the doctrine of administrative

efficiency has been pressed too hard. The wheels of the huge machine

have been driven too fast. Our administration--so shrewd observers

and very experienced observers assure me--would be a great deal more

popular if it was a trifle less efficient, a trifle more elastic

generally. We ought not to put mechanical efficiency at the head of

our ideas. I am leading up to a practical point. The district officers

representing British rule to the majority of the people of India, are

overloaded with work in their official relations, and I know there are

highly experienced gentlemen who say that a little of the looseness of

earlier days is better fitted than the regular system of latter days,

to win and to keep personal influence, and that we are in danger of

creating a pure bureaucracy. Honourable, faithful, and industrious the

servants of the State in India are and will be, but if the present

system is persisted in, there is a risk of its becoming rather

mechanical, perhaps I might even say rather soulless; and attention to

this is urgently demanded. Perfectly efficient administration, I need

not tell the House, has a tendency to lead to over-centralisation. It

is inevitable. The tendency in India is to override local authority,

and to force administration to run in official grooves. For my own

part I would spare no pains to improve our relations with native

Governments, and more and more these relations may become of potential

value to the Government of India. I would use my best endeavours to

make these States independent in matters of administration. Yet all

evidence tends to show we are rather making administration less

personal, though evidence also tends to show that the Indian people

are peculiarly responsive to sympathy and personal influence. Do not

let us waste ourselves in controversy, here or elsewhere, or in mere

anger; let us try to draw to our side the men who now influence the

people. We have every good reason to believe that most of the people

of India are on our side. I do not say for a moment that they like us.

It does not come easy, in west or east, to like foreign rule. But in

their hearts they know that their solid interest is bound up with the

law and order that we preserve.

There is a Motion on the Paper for an inquiry by means of a

Parliamentary Committee or Royal Commission into the causes at the

root of the dissatisfaction. Now, I have often thought, while at

the India Office, whether it would be a good thing to have the

old-fashioned parliamentary inquiry by committee or commission. I have

considered this, I have discussed it with others; and I have come

to the conclusion that such inquiry would not produce any of the

advantages such as were gained in the old days of old committees, and

certainly would be attended by many drawbacks. But I have determined,

after consulting with the Viceroy, that considerable advantage might

be gained by a Royal Commission to examine, with the experience we

have gained over many years, into this great mischief--for all the

people in India who have any responsibility know that it is a great

mischief--of over-centralisation. It seemed a great mischief to so

acute a man as Sir Henry Maine, who, after many years' experience,

wrote expressing agreement with what Mr. Bright said just before or

just after the Mutiny, that the centralised government of India was

too much power for any one man to work. Now, when two men, singularly

unlike in temperament and training, agreed as to the evil of

centralisation on this large scale, it compels reflection. I will not

undertake at the present time to refer to the Commission the large

questions that were spoken of by Maine and Bright, but I think that

much might be gained by an inquiry on the spot into the working of

centralisation of government in India, and how in the opinions of

trained men here and in India, the mischief might be alleviated. That,

however, is not a question before us now.

You often hear people talk of the educated section of the people of

India as a mere handful, an infinitesimal fraction. So they are,

in numbers; but it is fatally idle to say that this infinitesimal

fraction does not count. This educated section is making and will make

all the difference. That they would sharply criticise the British

system of government has been long known. It was inevitable. There

need be no surprise in the fact that they want a share in political

influence, and want a share in the emoluments of administration. Their

means--many of them--are scanty; they have little to lose and much to

gain from far-reaching changes. They see that the British hand works

the State machine surely and smoothly, and they think, having no fear

of race animosities, that their hand could work the machine as surely

and as smoothly as the British hand.

And now I come to my last point. Last autumn the Governor-General

appointed a Committee of the Executive Council to consider the

development of the administrative machinery, and at the end of March

last he publicly informed his Legislative Council that he had sent

home a despatch to the Secretary of State proposing suggestions for

a move in advance. The Viceroy with a liberal and courageous mind

entered deliberately on the path of improvement. The public in India

were aware of it. They waited, and are now waiting the result with

the liveliest interest and curiosity. Meanwhile the riots happened

in Rawalpindi, in Lahore. After these riots broke out, what was the

course we ought to take? Some in this country lean to the opinion--and

it is excusable--that riots ought to suspend all suggestions and talk

of reform. Sir, His Majesty's Government considered this view, and in

the end they took, very determinedly, the opposite view. They held

that such a withdrawal would, of course, have been construed as a

triumph for the party of sedition. They held that, to draw back on

account of local and sporadic disturbances, however serious, anxious,

and troublesome they might be, would have been a really grave

humiliation. To hesitate to make a beginning with our own policy of

improving the administrative machinery of the Indian Government, would

have been taken as a sign of nervousness, trepidation, and fear; and

fear, that is always unworthy in any Government, is in the Indian

Government, not only unworthy, but extremely dangerous. I hope the

House concurs with His Majesty's Government.

In answer to a Question the other day, I warned one or two of my

hon. friends that, in resisting the employment of powers to suppress

disturbances, under the Regulation of 1818 or by any other lawful

weapon we could find, they were promoting the success of that

disorder, which would be fatal to the very projects with which they

sympathise. The despatch from India reached us in due course. It was

considered by the Council of India and by His Majesty's Government,

and our reply was sent about a fortnight ago. Someone will ask--Are

you going to lay these two despatches on the Table to-day? I hope the

House will not take it amiss if I say that at this stage--perhaps at

all stages--it would be wholly disadvantageous to lay the despatches

on the Table. We are in the middle of the discussion to-day, and it

would break up steady continuity if we had a premature discussion

_coram populo_. Everyone will understand that discussions of this kind

must be very delicate, and it is of the utmost importance that they

should be conducted with entire freedom. But, to employ a word that

I do not often use, I might adumbrate the proposals. This is how

the case stands. The despatch reached His Majesty's Government, who

considered it. We then set out our views upon the points raised in

the despatch. The Government of India will now frame what is called a

Resolution. That draft Resolution, when framed by them in conformity

with the instructions of His Majesty's Government, will in due course

be sent here. We shall consider that draft, and then it will be my

duty to present it to this House if legislation is necessary, as it

will be; and it will be published in India to be discussed there by

all those concerned....

The main proposal is the acceptance of the general principle of

a substantial enlargement of Legislative Councils, both the

Governor-General's Legislative Council and the Provincial Legislative

Councils. Details of this reform have to be further discussed in

consultation with the local Governments in India, but so far it is

thought best in India that an official majority must be maintained.

Again, in the discussion of the Budget in the Viceroy's Council the

subjects are to be grouped and explained severally by the members of

Council in charge of the Departments, and longer time is to be

allowed for this detailed discussion and for general debate. One more

suggestion. The Secretary of State has the privilege of recommending

to the Crown members of the Council of India. I think that the time

has now come when the Secretary of State may safely, wisely, and

justly recommend at any rate one Indian member. I will not discuss the

question now. I may have to argue it in Parliament at a later stage,

but I think it is right to say what is my intention, realising as we

all do how few opportunities the governing bodies have of hearing the

voice of Indians.

I believe I have defended myself from ignoring the principle that

there is a difference between the Western European and the Indian

Asiatic. There is vital difference, and it is infatuation to ignore

it. But there is another vital fact--namely, that the Indian Asiatic

is a man with very vivid susceptibilities of all kinds, and with

living traditions of a civilisation of his own; and we are bound to

treat him with the same kind of respect and kindness and sympathy that

we should expect to be treated with ourselves. Only the other day I

saw a letter from General Gordon to a friend of mine. He wrote--

"To govern men, there is but one way, and it is eternal truth. Get

into their skins. Try to realize their feelings. That is the true

secret of government."

That is not only a great ethical, but a great political law, and we

shall reap a sour and sorry harvest if it is forgotten. It would be

folly to pretend to any dogmatic assurance--and I certainly do not--as

to the course of the future in India. But for to-day anybody who takes

part in the rule of India, whether as a Minister or as a Member of

the House of Commons, participating in the discussion on affairs in

India--anyone who wants to take a fruitful part in such discussions,

if he does his duty will found himself on the assumption that the

British rule will continue, ought to continue, and must continue.

There is, I know, a school,--I do not think it has representatives in

this House--who say that we might wisely walk out of India, and that

the Indians would manage their own affairs better than we can manage

affairs for them. Anybody who pictures to himself the anarchy, the

bloody chaos, that would follow from any such deplorable step, must

shrink from that sinister decision. We, at all events--Ministers and

Members of this House--are bound to take a completely different view.

The Government, and the House in all its parties and groups, is

determined that we ought to face all these mischiefs and difficulties

and dangers of which I have been speaking with a clear purpose. We

know that we are not doing it for our own interest alone, or our own

fame in the history of the civilised world alone, but for the interest

of the millions committed to us. We ought to face it with sympathy,

with kindness, with firmness, with a love of justice, and, whether the

weather be fair or foul, in a valiant and manful spirit.

II

TO CONSTITUENTS

(ARBROATH. OCTOBER 21, 1907)

It is an enormous satisfaction to me to find myself here once more,

the first time since the polling, and since the splendid majority that

these burghs were good enough to give me. I value very much what the

Provost has said, when he told you that I have never, though I have

had pretty heavy burdens, neglected the local business of Arbroath and

the other burghs. The Provost truly said that I hold an important and

responsible office under the Crown; and I hope that fact will be the

excuse, if excuse be needed, for my confining myself to-night to a

single topic. When I spoke to a friend of mine in London the other day

he said, "What are you going to speak about?", and I told him. He is a

very experienced man and he said, "It is a most unattractive subject,

India." At any rate, this is the last place where any apology is

needed for speaking about India, because it is you who are responsible

for my being the Indian Minister. If your 2,500 majority had been

2,500 the other way, I should have been no longer the Indian Minister.

There is something that strikes the imagination, something that

awakens a feeling of the bonds of mankind, in the thought that you

here and in the other burghs--(shipmen, artificers, craftsmen, and

shopkeepers living here)--are brought through me, and through your

responsibility in electing me, into contact with all these hundreds

of millions across the seas. Therefore it is that I will not make any

apology to you for my choice of a subject to-night. Let me say

this, not only to you gentlemen here, but to all British

constituencies--that it is well you should have patience enough to

listen to a speech about India; because it is no secret to anybody who

understands, that if the Government were to make a certain kind of bad

blunder in India--which I do not at all expect them to make--there

would be short work for a long time to come, with many of those

schemes, upon which you have set your heart. Do not dream, if any

mishap of a certain kind were to come to pass in India that you can

go on with that programme of social reforms, all costing money and

absorbing attention, in the spirit in which you are now about to

pursue it.

I am not particularly fond of talking of myself, but there is one

single personal word that I would like to say, and my constituency is

the only place in which I should not be ashamed to say that word. You,

after all, are concerned in the consistency of your representative.

Now I think a public man who spends overmuch time in vindicating

his consistency, makes a mistake. I will confess to you in friendly

confidence, that I have winced when I read of lifelong friends of

mine saying that I have, in certain Indian transactions, shelved the

principles of a lifetime. One of your countrymen said that, like the

Python--that fabulous animal who had the largest swallow that any

creature ever enjoyed--I have swallowed all my principles. I am a

little disappointed at such clatter as this. When a man has laboured

for more years than I care to count, for Liberal principles and

Liberal causes, and thinks he may possibly have accumulated a little

credit in the bank of public opinion--and in the opinion of his party

and his friends--it is a most extraordinary and unwelcome surprise to

him, when he draws a very small cheque indeed upon that capital, to

find the cheque returned with the uncomfortable and ill-omened words,

"No effects." I am not going to defend myself. A long time ago a

journalistic colleague, who was a little uneasy at some line I took

upon this question or that, comforted himself by saying. "Well, well,

the ship (speaking of me) swings on the tide, but the anchor holds."

Yes, gentlemen, I am no Pharisee, but I do believe that my anchor

holds, and your cheers show that you believe it too.

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