DR. J. LIONEL TAYLER

(Author of "_Aspects of Social Evolution_") said:

While agreeing with Prof. Geddes in his belief in the importance of

institutional and geographical studies as a basis for the investigation

of the development of cities, it yet seems to me that these studies

cannot prove of supreme value to society unless they are accompanied by

a detailed examination of the _natural_ characteristics of all

individuals who have been born into and existed in, or merely dwelt in,

these surroundings. It is not enough to trace out, however accurately,

the various stages of a town's growth from its commencement to the

present time, because _the cause_ of [Page: 126] the evolution of any

city aggregate lies deeper, is in large part animate, and not inanimate,

in character. The value of the surroundings depends at least as much

upon the capacity of the individual citizen, singly and collectively, to

utilise what he or she is brought in contact with as upon the

peculiarities of these surroundings themselves. Place, tradition, social

organisation, individual development, education, are factors in town

evolution that cannot safely be overlooked, and they all vary from age

to age and in place and place.

If it were possible to completely exchange the inhabitants of a large

town in England with those of an equally large town in France two groups

of changes would become more or less rapidly observable: (1) the French

and English citizens would adapt themselves, as far as they desired and

were able, to their altered conditions; (2) the characteristics of both

towns would gradually change, in spite of geographical position, in

response to the altered human needs. Similarly, a town composed of

individuals who are naturally uncultured and unprogressive will tend to

preserve its uncultured and unprogressive characters more than another

that has alert citizens to carry on its activities. Every profession and

every trade tends to foster its own social atmosphere; and towns will

vary with their industrial life, and individuals favourably disposed to

this atmosphere will come to the town, and those unfavourably inclined

to it will leave. _These changing citizens, as they act upon and react

to their surroundings and vary in their powers age by age, are the real

evolvers of the conditions in which they dwell_; hence the citizen must

not be omitted from our study if we are to understand city growth.

In other words, I think that every investigation of civic, and for that

matter country life should be studied from two aspects: (1) to note the

peculiarities, growth and development of the material, non-living and

non-thinking elements in the problem--the buildings, their geographical

position, their age, their fitness for past and present life, and the

distinctive local features that are evolving or retrogressing with the

multiplication of some trades and industries and the decline of others

in each area that is studied; (2) the change in the quality of the

citizens themselves through racial, educational, and other factors,

noting how far ideals are altering, not only in the mass of individuals

taken as a whole, but also by examining the changing outlook in every

trade and profession. With these two parallel lines of investigation to

study, we could then determine how far environment--social and

climatic--how far racial and individual characteristics have been

powerful in the moulding of the fabric around us.

With these two lines of study to our hands, we could predict the

vitality, the growing power, and the future possibilities of the social

life of which we are a tiny though not an insignificant part; we could,

knowing something of the response that we make to that which surrounds

us, form some estimate of how the future ages will develop, and, knowing

the [Page: 127] intensity of the different national desires for progress

_and the causes which are likely to arouse such desires_, we could

realise what will stimulate and what will retard all that is best in our

civic life.

PROFESSOR EARL BARNES (in moving a vote of thanks) said:

For years I have been accumulating a debt of obligation to Prof. Geddes

for ideas, suggestions, and large synthesis of life, and it gives me

special pleasure to voice the feeling of this meeting concerning the

paper read to us this afternoon. To me, as an American, it is especially

interesting to hear this presentation of life as an organic whole. Life

is but a period of education, and if there is nothing behind this

present moment of life it is all extremely insignificant. To an

American, who has lived at No. 1067 in 63rd Street, Philadelphia, and

at No. 1718 in G Street, in Washington, it is profoundly interesting to

think of the possibility of a man's so living that his whole existence

shall be significant, so that the realities of his world, geographical,

geological, and material, and all that long development of humanity

through the historic past--that all these things will be really and

truly significant to him. Prof. Geddes has himself shown us that is

possible. Any man who has gone to Edinburgh and seen the restoration of

the old life that has been carried out there under his hand knows it can

be done. I suppose we all came here to hear Professor Geddes speak on

practical affairs because his name is now connected with the plans for

making a city that shall be really expressive of all its potentialities

to all of its people. I am personally profoundly grateful to him for his

paper; and I move you that he be given a very hearty vote of thanks.

The Chairman. (MR. CHARLES BOOTH), in closing the discussion, said: I

myself entirely agree with what Mr Robertson has said as to the extreme

difficulty of bringing investigations of the kind referred to, to

practical conclusions--practical points. Practical work at present needs

the most attention. I perhaps am too old to do it, but I feel the

attraction of that kind of work, and that was one reason I was sorry Mr

Loch had to leave before we could hear what he might have to say. The

description I have given of London does seem to be a foggy labyrinth I

agree, but nevertheless I cannot but think that we do require a complete

conception if we are to do the definite work of putting different people

in their proper places in an organic whole, such as a city is. I do not

think we can do without it, and I regard the paper of this evening as an

important contribution [Page: 128] to that complete conception which I

feel we need. I should like each worker and thinker to have and to know

his place in the scheme of civic improvement; and I think it perfectly

possible for every man to know what it is that he is trying to do, what

contribution it is that he ought to give to that joint life which is

called here civics, which is the life of a city and the life in the

city. One man cannot possibly concentrate it all in himself. Within a

society such as the Sociological Society a general scheme is possible in

which each individual and each society shall play its acknowledged and

recognised part. It does not follow that the work done in one city can

apply as an example to another. Individuality has too strong a hold;

but each town may work out something for itself. I have been very much

interested in the work which Mr. Rowntree has done in York, on which he

was kind enough to consult me. He entered upon it on quite other grounds

from mine, but so far as the ground was common between him and me we

tried to have a common basis. Those of you who have not read Mr.

Horsfall's volumes on Manchester would do well to do so. Prof. Geddes

gave us a vivid picture of a larger regional unit which culminates

geographically in the city as industrial climax. In his particular

instance he referred, I take, to Dundee. In Dundee there is at this

moment an inquiry being started, and I am in communication with those

who are doing it, and I hope it will add something to the completeness

of the picture we have of that city. In Dundee they have excessive

difficulties in respect to crowding and female labour. What I suggested

was, that they should make a special study of such circumstances as are

special to Dundee. Labour there is very largely sack-making and jute

manufacture, and there is a great deal of girl labour; and that is one

of the special subjects that will be considered in that inquiry.

Then, with regard to the preservation of such of the natural beauties

that do remain even quite near to busy town centres, surely it is of the

greatest importance that they should be watched and protected and

preserved. Prof. Geddes has contributed a portion of his practical work

to that practical question at Dunfermline. His charming volume on

Dunfermline ("A Study in City Development") shows what beautiful

features there are near Dunfermline, and how much may be done to

preserve and improve them in ways that are most interesting to study.

His use of photography in this matter is extraordinarily successful.

Prof. Geddes has photographed a scene as it now is, with its background

and distance and its squalid foreground, already ruined by the debris of

the city--old tin pots and every [Page: 129] kind of rubbish--thrown

down by the side of the stream, which is naturally beautiful. By

manipulating the photographic plates he wipes out that which he does not

want and introduces other features, including a little waterfall; and

you have, instead of a miserable suburb, a dignified park. Well now,

that is practical work. It has in it that element which he has described

by a question-mark in his diagram, the element of forecast. You have the

same idea in Manchester, in Mr. Horsfall's work. They have laid out

their map of Manchester and shown in what way it may develop, so as not

to spoil the beauty that remains on two sides of Manchester. There is

really exquisitely beautiful natural scenery close to Manchester, which

may be entirely spoiled or preserved, according as a forecast is made

and forethought taken. This is not a question on which there is reason

to think that people will disagree. The difficulties are always supposed

to be financial. It is a sad thing that we should be so hampered by our

methods of finance that we throw away opportunities to retain these

actual beauties which undoubtedly add to the actual money value of a

district. I cannot suppose that the way in which cities are laid out

with narrow streets really results in an increase of value. The

surroundings of our cities are undeveloped estates, which we have only

to agree amongst ourselves how to lay out, and everybody would benefit

by such joint action. There is an excellent illustration in regard to

that in Mr. Horsfall's work in connection with Germany. It must be said

that from Germany there is a great deal to learn in civic matters. In

one of its towns the properties lie in extraordinarily long strips. It

is the final result of properties having been measured by the length of

the plough's run. When that method is applied to town sites, it is not

convenient for streets; and there are some quarters in this German town

ruined in this way, and the people have agreed together to improve

matters. Every owner is to be given credit for his share in the total

value of the improvement that is found to accrue from the re-arrangement

of these undesirable divisions, and any difference of opinion as to the

just share and proportion is to be referred to an impartial arbitrator.

All the owners will gain, though some a little more than others. That is

an example that we may do well to try and follow, and in some way or

other improve the money value, and social value, and hygienic value of

towns, and if necessary compel the carrying out of improvements when

some few might be disposed to hold out against them.

[Page: 130] WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS

From PROF. BALDWIN BROWN (Professor of Fine Art in the University of

Edinburgh)

I am glad of this opportunity of saying how cordially I agree with the

method adopted by my friend Professor Geddes in dealing with the life of

cities. He treats the modern community and its material shell as things

of organic growth, with a past and a future as well as a present,

whereas we too often see these wider considerations ignored in favour of

some exigency of the moment. A historic British town has recently

furnished a striking object-lesson in this connection. The town

possesses portions of an ancient city wall and fosse that were made at a

time when the town was, for the moment, the most important in Great

Britain. Yet the Town Council, a year ago, destroyed part of this wall

and filled a section of the fosse for the purpose of providing a site

for a new elementary school. No doubt, in that school, books "approved

by the Department" will instruct scholars in the past history of the

burgh, but the living witness of that history must first of all be

carefully obliterated. All the rest of this ancient and historic

enceinte was condemned a few weeks ago to complete destruction, merely

on the plea that the site would be convenient for workmen's dwellings.

The monument has now been saved, but it has taken the whole country to

do it!

Here were chosen officials, governors of no mean city, absolutely

oblivious of these important interests committed to their care, and all

for want of having drilled into them these broader views which Professor

Geddes puts forward so well.

He has himself done practical work in Edinburgh on the lines he lays

down, and I have lately had occasion to note, and call attention to the

advantage to the city of much wise conservatism in regard to our older

buildings which he and his associates have shown.

In Edinburgh we have the advantage that our older monuments, [Page:

131] in which so much of the past life of the city is enshrined, are

firm and solid; and it takes some trouble to knock them down. Hence for

some time to come we shall preserve here object-lessons in civic

development that will be of interest to the country at large.

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