We must now look for new food supplies. Wheat, grain, corn, and the

other cereals are not going to supply this country indefinitely but the

nut trees will. It is absolutely impossible to have over-population. It

can't be done. Over-population as a social matter relates wholly to the

habits acquired by people in using established kinds of food, but with

the development of the nut trees, which furnish the appropriate starch,

oils, and essentials of human diet, the danger of over-population

becomes absolutely nil. We can not have over-population anyway, because

nations of people reach cultural limitation, just as breeds of cattle

run out, just as a breed of dogs runs out, just as a breed of any

cultivated animal runs out. We are sure to do that. In all of our

cultural periods we are sure to rise to a certain point, decline, and go

out, and somebody else will follow, so that we never can really have

over-population excepting as a matter of choice rather than one of

necessity. On the question of food supply we may avert over-population

by taking up something new to meet the conditions. That new thing right

now is the development of the nut trees which furnish all of the food

essentials and will take away any fear whatsoever of any over-crowding

of the people of this country.

EVENING SESSION, SEPTEMBER 8th, 1922

The convention was called to order by the President at 8:30 o'clock P.

M.

MR. SPENCER: Mr. President: I have an idea I would like to present on

behalf of the ladies. Quite a number of years ago I was entertained at

dinner on the plantation of Mr. John Todd, St. Mary's Parish, Louisiana.

It is on the banks of a stream lined with live oaks at a point where

Evangeline and the Arcadians passed on that trip to the next county

which is known as Arcadia. The whole country round there is full of

reminders of the Arcadians.

Mr. John Todd has several thousand acres in his plantation and four

thousand acres are in sugar cane. When it came to the dessert a

beautiful two-storied white cake was placed on the table. After eating

it I turned to Mrs. Todd and said, "I dislike very much to comment on a

lady's cooking but I hope you will excuse me if I ask you what this cake

is made of. There is something peculiar about it that I do not

recognize." "Well," she said, "while you and the other gentlemen were

down inspecting the land that you came to see, I had the boys go out and

rattle down some pecans. They cracked them, picked out the meats, and I

put them in the oven and dried them. I knew that they would not dry out

ordinarily in time for my meal. I then ran them through the meat chopper

and chopped them as fine as I could and then I put them through a very

fine sieve. The parts that were fine enough to go through I put in the

flour of the cake, the rest I put in the filler between the two layers

of cake and in the frosting." It was one of the most delicious cakes I

ever tasted in my life. With that recipe you can make a white cake in

about three minutes, fill your flour and your frosting with pecans and

you certainly will have a feast for the gods.

DOCTOR MORRIS: Mr. President, the committee on resolutions has referred

matters to the secretary for action.

THE SECRETARY: It was the duty of the committee on resolutions to

prepare the resolutions on the deaths of Doctor Van Fleet and Colonel

Sober, copies of which are to be sent to their families. The committee

not having had time to meet that task has been assigned to the

secretary, who will be very glad to carry it out to the best of his

ability.

The other and more important task of that committee was to take action

on the suggestions made by the president in his paper in regard to

increasing the membership of the association. As it has been impossible

to take such action in the committee I propose that we now take up

consideration of that matter as a committee of the whole.

I would like at least to say that Mr. Jones has offered to the

association five hundred nut trees to be given as premiums with new

memberships. I think Mr. Jones said that they included Stabler walnut

trees, Chinese walnuts, and what others, Mr. Jones?

MR. JONES: Chinese English walnuts, or Chinese Persian walnuts, Mayette

& Franquette English walnuts and Stabler black walnut seedlings. I have

an idea the Chinese walnuts would be the most attractive.

THE SECRETARY: They would all be seedling trees, of course?

MR. JONES: Yes; they would all be seedling trees. We would put them up

and mail them out.

THE SECRETARY: Think of what an extraordinary, generous offer that is on

the part of Mr. Jones, to contract to send out five hundred nut trees to

as many new members, dig and pack and send them out!

MR. JONES: Well, growing the trees doesn't cost very much. Of course

packing the single trees will cost more than the trees but we are glad

to do that if it will help out.

THE SECRETARY: I know that to some members this premium offering for new

members does not seem an advisable thing; to others it does seem a good

thing to do. Perhaps that would be a good question to debate at the

present time.

THE PRESIDENT: I think it is a good idea, Doctor, to the end of getting

a thousand members this year?

MR. JONES: Set aside a thousand trees if you get a thousand members.

MR. OLCOTT: Mr. President, Mr. Jones said the cost of growing the tree

isn't so much, but the packing and mailing is something. How would it do

to offer the tree at cost of packing and mailing--fifty cents, or so? I

suppose the value of that tree would be about a dollar, grown, packed

and delivered. Suppose we made it twenty-five, thirty-five or fifty

cents, something to cover the cost of packing? Would that not make

it----

MR. JONES: (Interrupting.) We don't want anything for packing.

MR. O'CONNOR: Mr. President, If you make a bonus of that kind, which is

very generous of Mr. Jones, I think it would be appreciated by some, but

others would say, "Well, a thing which you get for nothing isn't worth

much." This gentleman behind me here says, "Make it cost a little

something, which would make it more attractive." How about putting the

membership up a little, so as to cover the cost of mailing.

MR. JONES: I would say that the association was giving these trees

because it wants them tried out for new varieties.

MR. SNYDER: The fact that our association offers these trees ought to be

enough to establish their value. A new member would appreciate receiving

something in this way. The largest horticultural society in our country

is the Minnesota Horticultural Society. They have followed the practice

for years of giving to each new member a tree of some kind, scions or

plants of new fruits, and it has been a great success in building up

their society. I doubt not that it will be here.

MR. SPENCER: I'm heart and soul in favor of the movement for better nut

trees. I'm tired of having trees planted that produce nothing but

litter, and for the small boy to keep breaking all the time instead of

going fishing. As I said the other day through the committee on trees of

the Bird and Tree Club of Decatur we have placed in that city a hundred

and fourteen nut trees. I believe that I can go to the different

purchasers and say that this association is anxious to increase the

knowledge of the people as to the value of nut orchards and nut trees

for food and shade and I can get them to become members. When those

subscriptions are sent in send the names to Mr. Jones and have all the

trees put in a little package and sent to me. Then I can deliver them

and Mr. Jones will only have one package to do up.

I believe by a little effort among our friends a great deal of good can

be accomplished. For instance I stated here that I was going to buy a

subscription to the American Nut Journal and send it to the Maitland

County Farm Bureau. Likewise, I hope I can get the Board of Education or

the Public Library, which purchased twenty-eight different trees to put

in the library grounds, to subscribe for the Nut Journal and take out

membership. It won't be very hard, I should say, to get fifty or sixty

new members in Decatur without going out and making myself a regular

canvassing agent. I have got a great many friends there and I know that

upon my representation they would be very glad to take out a membership

and get a tree. Anybody can go and plant a Carolina poplar or a soft

maple, or a basswood, or an elm, but his lot won't look different from

any other. If all the ladies in town dressed in the same calico and the

same cut you would not know whose wife was who. This idea of having all

the yards, all the lots, all the places look alike, is wrong. You might

as well have your home look distinctive and if you will take that idea,

to have your place stand out as a place distinct in horticulture on your

street, in your block, or in your city, you can appeal to civic pride.

You must appeal to something besides dollars and cents. You must appeal

to their public spirit, their civic pride. Then you can get them

interested. A great many people are proud of their city and there are a

great many people who can very easily say with Paul, "I am a citizen of

no mean city."

Keep at it and take advantage of this offer of Mr. Jones. I believe by

following those lines you can very easily go out and get five or ten

members apiece.

MR. BIXBY: I don't want to throw cold water on any idea that is going to

increase the membership but it seems to me that there are some

objections to the proposed plan. In the first place the association has

gone on record as favoring largely the planting of grafted trees. Now on

the proposed plan the minute we get a new member in we have to send him

a seedling tree. That does not seem to me the best thing to do. In the

second place, I have had a good many years' experience in merchandising

and it has always worked out with me that people do not much appreciate

what they get for nothing. You can do this if a man is going to buy a

certain kind of goods, by offering him an inducement, giving him

something for nothing you can make him buy more than he would otherwise;

but if a man who has never had a certain kind of goods, generally

speaking you can't sell them to him by offering him a prize with them.

In the case suggested by Mr. Spencer, where a member working in a

certain location could club with others and get several new members, why

that hasn't the same objection. I do think that it would be a fine thing

if the members in the different sections each agreed to get five or ten

members, go after them and get them. I think that would be fine. And if

they are willing to be responsible at the end of the year if they don't

get them, and pay two dollars apiece for the ones they don't get, why

that would help out the treasury.

MR. SMITH: Mr. Chairman, I am rather in favor of the premium plan. In

this great state of New York there exists an organization at Geneva

known as the New York State Fruit Testing Co-operative Association. In

order to get members they offer premiums, a yearly premium. The year

that I joined the association they sent me a new apple which had been

tried out and found to be a very desirable fruit. They named it the

"Tioga" variety. The next year they sent me as a premium twelve new

raspberries that had been tested first by the Geneva Experiment Station,

a branch of the agricultural college, and then by this association of

fruit growers.

Now I don't know how it would operate with others but it was an

inducement to me in the first place to get that new apple to experiment

with, and the next year it was an inducement to get the twelve new

raspberry bushes which are claimed to be the best raspberries grown.

The objection raised by Mr. Bixby seems to be, however, quite a valid

one. The organization has put itself on record as opposed to seedling

nut trees and it is a question whether we ought to encourage the

distribution of seedlings. But in some way or other I'm in favor of the

premium plan to attract new memberships.

THE PRESIDENT: Is it not better to plant seedlings than none at all? It

is possible that some of the seedlings might be really worth while.

Those that are not really worth while can be top worked.

MR. JONES: Mr. President, my idea about the Chinese walnuts and the

Stabler walnuts was that if we want to get new varieties we have to get

them from seedlings. My plan was to grow these and send them out as

extras to people who had sent in orders for other trees. I thought that

in that way we could introduce them to those who would take an interest

in them. It would take a good deal of land and a good deal of money and

a good deal of attention to care for several hundred or several thousand

such trees, but you could send them out in that way one at a time and

possibly get new varieties superior to anything we have. That was my

idea in disposing of these trees. I thought that if the association felt

that that would be an inducement for new members we could send them out

in that way as premiums. The only difference in the cost to me would be

the packing.

MR. SMITH: Would it be possible for the association to take out from

this first year's dues sufficient to compensate Mr. Jones for the

difference between the value of a seedling and some of the best nut

trees, so we could say to a proposed member, "We are giving you

something that years of experience have proved to be the very best thing

up to date, and we want you to plant this and care for it"? I think he

would be more interested if he knew he were getting a tested tree than

if he were getting a seedling. The seedling may be a good thing and it

may not.

MR. WEBER: Mr. President, we know that in the spring the dry goods

stores distribute shade trees, and people carry them all day with the

tops tied up and the roots uncovered. You might as well expect a fish to

live out of water as to expect those trees to live. If we send the

average person a tree he may make it grow but the chances are he will

not, so why let him ruin a good grafted tree with his initial

experiments in planting a nut tree. On the other hand you will emphasize

the distinction between seedlings and grafted trees, because on his

coming into the association you will present him with a seedling and

explain to him in advance just the purpose for which it is being given.

He will then plant that tree. If it grows he can see its performance

along side of a later grafted tree which he will buy if he is

interested in furthering his nut tree plantings. If he isn't, why, you

get his membership fee and he centers his membership around that

seedling which he thinks is the finest thing in the world.

Last summer I was talking nut trees to the wife of a rather prominent

Detroit man. They have traveled around the world considerably. We were

discussing some nut trees which had been sent out. I knew the size of

the trees and I didn't laugh, or I sort of saved my face, when she asked

me the question, "How many bushels of nuts could we get next year?" I

just closed my jaws a while and looked out of the window. I didn't want

to dampen her enthusiasm.

THE PRESIDENT: Mr. Tobin, I would like to have your views on the

subject.

MR. TOBIN: This offer of Mr. Jones's is of great importance to this

association. I have been interested in trees and forestry and plants of

all kinds but until the present time I have not been so much interested

in the cultivation of nuts. I wish to say that if there is any way I can

help this association along in regard to an experimental station or in

any way whatsoever, financially or otherwise, if the suggestion could be

made I would be glad to hear it.

THE SECRETARY: Mr. President, this association is not opposed to the

planting of seedling trees. One of our founders, the late John Craig,

advocated the planting of seedling trees in great numbers, for only thus

can we originate new varieties. The association is opposed to the

dissemination of seedling trees as grafted trees. It does not advocate

the planting of seedling trees for commercial purposes or for ordinary

home use. It does not advise the purchase of seedling trees for growing

nuts. In sending out these premium trees we should send with them a

letter distinctly stating that the association does not advise the

planting of seedling trees from a commercial point of view, but it does

wish to disseminate these seedling trees which we offer as premiums for

new members, for the purpose of testing and the possible discovery of

new varieties of nuts. It would then be clearly understood. Certainly

such seedling trees shouldn't be sent out to give members the idea that

we advocate the planting of seedling trees for any other purpose than of

possibly obtaining valuable new varieties.

MR. O'CONNOR: Mr. President, I'm a life member of the Wisconsin

Horticultural Society which has offered a thousand dollars for an apple

better than the Wealthy. We also offer premiums for new members every

year. Sometimes it is a seedling apple tree. Among those premium trees

may be a seedling which will win the prize. We do not know what the

seedling nut tree will do. We may get something from a seedling which is

far better than anything we have today on the table before us. Nature is

something wonderful and no one can tell you what she will do. Only this

last year has what is called the "O'Connor" come out. But we find this

O'Connor nut is not hardy enough for certain sections of the country.

This Persian walnut before you is a seedling, too you know, from nature.

So it is through seedlings that we are going to get better fruit. I

believe that Mr. Jones's offer is a very good thing. But I suggest that

we send these seedlings out with the understanding that they are

seedlings and that we don't know what they will produce. If the new

member will plant them and take care of them (and we should give a

little instruction as to how they should be planted) in a few years,

seven or eight if it is a pecan, he should see it coming into fruit.

I would like to say that if you will dynamite the hole with a one-half

stick of twenty per cent. dynamite, or, if you are afraid to use the

dynamite, dig a large hole so as to give these young roots a chance to

spread, a grafted tree will come into bearing in three years. I have

seen them do it down there with us in Maryland and I believe they will

do the same thing anywhere else.

THE PRESIDENT: I would like to hear from Mr. Vollertsen on the subject.

MR. VOLLERTSEN: I haven't a great deal of confidence in seedlings. As a

general thing we find all the nut trees are inclined to go back to their

original type. If we take our filberts, even the best varieties, the

chances are that they will go back to the European type that they

originally came from. I have proven it time and again on the farm down

there. I don't think it wise for this association to send out seedlings.

THE SECRETARY: Mr. President, in order to bring this question to a head,

I move that Mr. Jones's offer be accepted and put in to practice if a

suitable plan can be devised and carried out in the estimation of the

executive committee.

Seconded and carried.

MR. OLCOTT: Mr. President, I wonder if the suggestion of Mr. O'Connor is

clearly appreciated. It was barely suggested in his talk but he did not

seem to clinch it at the end. As I understand his idea it was that this

plan of furnishing a tree as a premium might well be accompanied by an

offer of a prize for results, which would be an added inducement to

membership.

THE SECRETARY: I will see that that point is considered by the executive

committee.

I wish also to say that Mr. McGlennon, if I understand him aright, has

offered to get one hundred members in the ensuing year if the others

present will get ten each.

THE PRESIDENT: That's right, Doctor.

THE SECRETARY: I don't know just which comes first, whether Mr.

McGlennon is to get one hundred members and then the rest of us to get

ten each; or whether we are to get ten each and then Mr. McGlennon is to

get the others!

THE PRESIDENT: Well, Mr. Secretary, I have associated with me the

champion membership getter. When we can go out and get twenty or

twenty-five in a month I think we can go out and get the others. We are

all enthusiastic now and happy. We are glad we are here and we are going

to do wonders this next year. But I'll wager inside of a week our ardour

has materially cooled and it will be getting colder until about a month

before the next convention. We are not going to get anywhere that way.

We want to get busy immediately after this convention, and if we do

there is no reason why we can't have a thousand members by the time of

the 1923 convention. I repeat that my office will have a hundred members

by the time of the next convention but it is with the understanding that

the rest of you co-operate in this movement and that each of you here,

and the other members who are not here, be informed and instructed what

is expected of them, to get at least ten each.

MR. BIXBY: I don't believe you will ever succeed, Mr. President, in

getting each of the other members to get ten members each. If the rest

of the members get a hundred between them they would be doing more than

we ever did before.

THE PRESIDENT: Yes, Mr. Bixby, but even if the members here get ten each

I think if we follow them up closely and keep right after them we can

increase this membership to a thousand.

MR. BIXBY: I will agree for one to get ten or else pay the amount in to

the treasury.

MR. JONES: We can get ten.

MR. WEBER: Mr. President, I will get ten or kick in to the treasury the

money they would have brought.

THE PRESIDENT: That's fine. That's thirty right there. How about you,

Mr. Thorpe?

MR. THORPE: I think I can get it.

PROFESSOR NEILSON: I think I can get ten.

THE PRESIDENT: I think there is no doubt about it. Mr. Spencer will get

ten won't you, Mr. Spencer?

MR. SPENCER: I will try to.

THE PRESIDENT: Well, you will, won't you, or else you will "kick in"

with the money,--$20?

MR. SPENCER: Yes, I think so. Well, if I am going to put in $20 I want

to say something more on the subject. If we send out this Chinese tree

it would be very easy to put in a slip stating that the association is

very anxious to know whether this is suitable for the receiver's

particular part of the country. We should tell him that we don't know

whether it will grow in Illinois or in Louisiana, and that it's an

experiment on the part of the association to learn whether this tree,

which is desirable in China, is suitable for his particular locality. We

should ask him to please take care of it, watch results and report to

the association. Make him sort of a partner in the discovery.

THE PRESIDENT: Pat, you will get ten, won't you?

MR. O'CONNOR: I will promise myself ten.

THE PRESIDENT: And Mr. Tobin, you will get ten, won't you? You said you

were anxious to help this association.

MR. TOBIN: Yes.

THE PRESIDENT: Even financially?

MR. TOBIN: Yes, Mr. President.

THE PRESIDENT: Now, you will get us ten members during the year?

MR. TOBIN: Well, I would not promise you.

THE PRESIDENT: But if you don't, if you promise to help us financially,

you would "kick in" with the money, wouldn't you?

MR. TOBIN: Yes.

THE PRESIDENT: Yes, sure. Then you get ten members.

MR. TUCKER: Mr. President, I want to ask about the vice presidents from

the different states. Are those still in existence?

THE PRESIDENT: Yes. The secretary said yesterday they had been changed

every year.

MR. TUCKER: Why can't memberships be also increased through the vice

presidents? Put it up to them.

THE PRESIDENT: Joseph A. Smith, of Utah?

MR. SMITH: Mr. President, I will guarantee ten.

THE PRESIDENT: Now, that's an exceptionally fine offer of Mr. Smith, who

comes to us from Utah. Just try and fix in your mind the map of the

United States and realize where Utah is. Mr. Rawnsley, you will get ten,

won't you?

MR. RAWNSLEY: Yes, I will get ten.

MR. TUCKER: I will get ten. Carrie and I together will get ten.

THE PRESIDENT: There are two hundred right there.

MR. TUCKER: My ten went with your hundred. I think we ought to do

something through the vice presidents.

THE SECRETARY: The secretary will get up a letter and send it to each

one of the vice presidents, stating what was done at this meeting in the

way of pledging these new members and asking the vice presidents to do

the same, to each guarantee ten members or to turn the money in

themselves.

THE PRESIDENT: If we had more money so that some of the officers of this

association could get about and confer with our state vice presidents

there isn't any doubt but what we could stimulate their interest and get

many new members. Of course, ladies and gentlemen, we have got to get

new members, that's all there is to it.

MR. O'CONNOR: The more the merrier.

THE PRESIDENT: What is the use? Here we are meeting with a deficit every

year. That's all wrong.

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