Mr. GRIFFIN. What can you tell us about that, what—how long did Jack
work in the union?
Mr. RUBY. Well, I know as far as I know, I think he helped organize it.
It was Leon Cooke’s idea. Leon Cooke was an attorney and his father,
Mr. Cooke, was a scrap iron and junk handler, and for some reason or
another of his own thinking he decided that it would be a good idea
to organize a union because the—although he was doing very well as an
attorney without it, the workers in this industry were being paid, I
think at that time, 10 cents or 15 cents an hour, and it was actually
slave wages practically, as you can easily understand, and so they
organized the union or how they go about it I don’t even know, but they
did, Leon Cooke and Jack helped organize it, but I think Leon did all
the legal work.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Do you know of anybody else who helped in the organizing
efforts?
Mr. RUBY. Even I went out once to hand out those flyers, you know,
“join the union.”
Mr. GRIFFIN. Where did you hand them out and what would you do?
Mr. RUBY. Well, they would come out from work and I would just hand it
to them, as they leave the plant, just hand it to them.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Did you ever make any personal contacts with members, with
employees?