Mr. RUBY. I heard it from the Rabbi who was there, that he was—of
course, most of the people there were broken up but he was most unusual
because he was in deep tears, he really was. And he was so upset
and so disgusted with this situation that he called my sister Eileen
in Chicago and told her this is a good time to get out of Dallas. He
is ashamed of it, that this thing could happen there, and he will
probably—he wants to come up to Chicago for a few days, you know, to
visit with her. Well, she discouraged him from coming up. He wanted to
come to Chicago, and he also called my brother Hy in Chicago after the
assassination, and told him how terrible it was, and he thinks he is
going to get out of Dallas, he is coming back to Chicago altogether.
He also called his good friend, this was all brought out in the trial,
not all of it but most of it, although those last two incidents about
him calling my brother and my sister were never entered into evidence.
We couldn’t understand that.
He also called a fellow in California, Al Gruber, I think is his name,
and Gruber said he just couldn’t talk. He just couldn’t talk he was so
broken up.
So we know he was really broken up, and he must have really loved him
because otherwise you just don’t do these things. And the fact that he
went to the newspaper and complained to them for even taking the ad,
and I mean nobody else did this.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Do you have any examples of his conduct in Dallas before
the President was shot that would show his feeling toward President
Kennedy?
Mr. RUBY. No; We don’t have—nothing that I know of. We don’t have
anything that I know of.