Mr. RUBY. The brother-in-laws. But he gave the brother-in-laws 35
percent of each one.
Mr. HUBERT. I think for the record perhaps we had better state the
names of those other companies and the cities and the names of the
brothers-in-law.
Mr. RUBY. OK. The name of the plant that George Marcus and his
brother-in-law owns in Marion, Ind., is called Modern Laundry and Dry
Cleaners, and his brother-in-law’s name there is Harry Marks.
Mr. HUBERT. Is that his sister’s husband?
Mr. RUBY. Husband, yes.
Mr. HUBERT. All right.
Mr. RUBY. And the name of the plant in Benton Harbor, Mich., is called
the American Laundry and Dry Cleaners, and the brother-in-law there who
is married to George Marcus’ sister is Elwood Jacobs.
Mr. HUBERT. Do you know those people, the two brothers-in-law?
Mr. RUBY. Oh, yes, you know, being close to my best friend for so many
years, I was always close to the family as a whole.
Mr. HUBERT. But you have no interest in those plants?
Mr. RUBY. No, no.
Mr. HUBERT. And you have a 50-percent interest in the Cobo plant?
Mr. RUBY. Yes.
Mr. HUBERT. Did we have some indication that there was a company or
something, sort of & business enterprise called the Earl Ruby Co? Will
you tell us about that?
Mr. RUBY. When I sold the Earl Products Co., I sold the whole Earl
Products Co. and he was supposed to pay me—he gave me so much money
down, about $20,000 down, I think—and he was supposed to pay me the
balance out so much a year.
Well, after he paid so much, he paid me for about a year or so, he said
he can’t pay me any more money, he wants to make a new deal on the
balance of the money that he owed me. So we made a deal that he would
only give me $10,000 more. He owed me about $30,000 or so. We settled
for $10,000 in cash plus I would take over the camera manufacturing.
We had a little camera we manufactured. He would give me the tools and
dies of that business, and also the tools and dies to make a little
nameplate that kids fasten on the back of their bicycles. So when
I took that over, I had to have a company name to run it, and so I
decided to call that Earl Ruby Co.
Mr. HUBERT. Did you have any associates in that company?
Mr. RUBY. No, no. And I since, last year I had to close that up. It was
just not doing any——
Mr. HUBERT. That operation continued after you left Chicago?
Mr. RUBY. When I sold it to Oliff, you mean? Oh, yes; for awhile.
Mr. HUBERT. No, no; I mean the Earl Ruby Co?
Mr. RUBY. No. When I left Chicago, there was no Earl Ruby Co. It only
became after he decided he couldn’t pay me the rest of the money, then
I had to start all over again.
Mr. HUBERT. You were in Detroit at the time?
Mr. RUBY. Yes. I couldn’t use Earl Products because he owned that name.
I sold him the name.
Mr. HUBERT. But the operation of the Earl Ruby Co. manufacturing the
cameras and the bicycle plates?
Mr. RUBY. I moved it to Detroit.
Mr. HUBERT. Oh, you moved it to Detroit?
Mr. RUBY. Oh, yes.
Mr. HUBERT. And you operated then out of Detroit?