Mr. GRIFFIN. Because the thing that I want to explore here is whether——

Mr. SENATOR. But I knew about the sandwiches the next day because I saw

them.

Mr. GRIFFIN. You knew about the sandwiches, right?

Mr. SENATOR. Yes.

Mr. GRIFFIN. But the thing I am trying to direct your attention at

is whether you knew about Jack’s visit to the police station and I

am suggesting to you that if you had known on the 23d or the 24th

about Jack’s visit to the police station, you would have had some

further conversation with Jack. If Jack had said, or if I had said

to you, “George, I just was down to the police station and I took

some sandwiches down there” on this particular day, why you would

have said to me, “Did you see Oswald? What was going on? What kind of

investigation?” That visit to the police station would have been a more

important thing than the sandwiches. So that if Jack really told you

this on Saturday, the 23d, I am suggesting that there might be some

further conversation that you and he had, because you would ask him

questions about what he saw, out of curiosity, and you don’t seem to

recall any such conversation.

Mr. SENATOR. It is not fresh in my mind right now. I am inclined to

think that he did, but if I had to say 100 percent I really can’t

answer you now. I just don’t remember now. I was sort of under the

impression that I was told. It is hazy in my mind. I can’t say yes or

no. I am not going to say no and I am not going to say yes that he did

or didn’t.

Mr. GRIFFIN. You don’t have any clear recollection?

Mr. SENATOR. No.

Mr. GRIFFIN. Of any conversation about his being down at the police

station?

Mr. SENATOR. No; I don’t remember, so in other words this is a thing I

would have to leave in question. Here is a question that I am not even

sure of. “Senator said that Ruby was very hot about this article and

commented that Weissman did not spell his name as a Jew but if he were

a Jew he should be ashamed of himself.”

Mr. GRIFFIN. What is your feeling about that now.

Mr. SENATOR. I don’t ever remember telling him that. Now I don’t say

that I did or didn’t, but I don’t know why I had the reason to say that

he didn’t spell his name as a Jew. Wait a minute “that he did not spell

his name as a Jew” I just can’t figure why I would say that because

Bernard Weissman to me sounds Jewish no matter how I look at the name.

This is the part I don’t understand on this.

Mr. GRIFFIN. Is it your recollection that Jack was hot under the collar

about this ad?

Mr. SENATOR. Oh, yes; oh, yes. This I remember he was.

Mr. GRIFFIN. You found that ad independently of Jack as I understand it.

Mr. SENATOR. I found that ad Thursday night when I bought the paper.

Mr. GRIFFIN. Thursday before the President arrived?

Mr. SENATOR. Or was it Friday? Thursday or Friday. I don’t know.

Mr. GRIFFIN. Something makes you think it was Thursday night?

Mr. SENATOR. Maybe, I don’t know.

Mr. GRIFFIN. What is that that makes you think that?

Mr. SENATOR. Wait a minute. I may have bought this paper Thursday night

because it come out in the paper the day the President arrived when I

read it. Or did it come out Friday? I don’t remember. Was it Friday?

Mr. GRIFFIN. Of course, I don’t know.

Mr. SENATOR. It was a Friday’s paper.

Mr. GRIFFIN. And the Friday morning news hits the newsstands on

Thursday night, does it not?

Mr. SENATOR. That is right.

Mr. GRIFFIN. Now are you in the habit of picking up a morning newspaper

the night before?

Mr. SENATOR. It all depends the hour. If I am out at that hour and if

the paper is out at that hour.

Mr. GRIFFIN. Do you recall what you did the night before the President

came to Dallas?

Mr. SENATOR. No; I don’t know what I did Thursday at all. I don’t know

what I did. Now there is a little twist in the thing right now. After

we saw the paper and the poster, he has just got this twisted around.

Mr. GRIFFIN. Read what he has and then let’s talk about it.

Mr. SENATOR. “They went to the Southland Hotel Coffee Shop and had

coffee, Ruby drinking grapefruit juice. While there Ruby reread the ad

and made comments about it. They left the coffee shop and went to the

main Dallas post office on Ervay where Ruby rang the night bell.” Then

it continues, but the thing is this is reversed.

Mr. GRIFFIN. What you are saying is that you went to the post office

before you had coffee?

Mr. SENATOR. Yes. This is reversed. Now does the reversal mean anything?

Mr. GRIFFIN. Yes.

Mr. SENATOR. There is a bunch that you have to reverse in this.

Mr. GRIFFIN. Let’s get it straight then as to what actually happened

there.

Mr. SENATOR. You want to reread it from here? It sounds all right

except the reversal.

Mr. GRIFFIN. You read everything that is wrong, everything that is

reversed and so forth and then we will try to put it in proper order.

Mr. SENATOR. The only thing I can do is read the reversal and leave the

other as it is. In other words, when he is doing this he would have to

say this was first and the other was last. I don’t know how to do it.

Mr. GRIFFIN. You read the text that is improper.

Mr. SENATOR. In other words, take these down in a line, is that what

you mean?

Mr. GRIFFIN. From the point that it gets out of order.

Mr. SENATOR. What I just read where it was out of order?

Mr. GRIFFIN. The only two things out of order, let me understand this,

are that you went to the post office before you went to the Southland

Hotel?

Mr. SENATOR. Yes.

Mr. GRIFFIN. And so the discussion you had at the Southland Hotel about

the Weissman ad occurred after you saw the Earl Warren sign and after

you went to the post office?

Mr. SENATOR. That is right. Now do you want some change in here?

Mr. GRIFFIN. No; I think that is clear.

Mr. SENATOR. Let me finish the balance of this. That whole complete

thing is right now.

Mr. GRIFFIN. We have corrected it on the record?

Mr. SENATOR. Yes. When he is quoting about a certain time, if it is an

hour off or a half hour off, is there any difference?

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