Mr. GRIFFIN. What did you say?
Mr. SENATOR. I said, “In the living room,” where it is. But I caught
the drift right away. And I wasn’t happy about that because I couldn’t
open my mouth because I was on the witness stand.
Page 298. You got the drift of that, didn’t you?
Mr. GRIFFIN. Yes; very clear.
Mr. SENATOR. I can’t quote the rest of it because he put it down there.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Go ahead, I am interested.
Mr. SENATOR. In other words, what this means is Jack Ruby and I are in
bed together, probably holding hands, or whatever it might be, watching
TV. Is that easy?
Mr. GRIFFIN. Yes.
Mr. SENATOR. Isn’t that logical?
Mr. GRIFFIN. Yes.
Mr. SENATOR. And I was pretty disturbed over this. How does he base
something like this?
Mr. GRIFFIN. I take it he didn’t follow it up in any way?
Mr. SENATOR. Not the second time.
Mr. GRIFFIN. He didn’t attempt to discredit your statement that it was
kept in the living room?
Mr. SENATOR. No. And when he didn’t bring that up at all on the witness
stand——
Mr. GRIFFIN. At the trial?
Mr. SENATOR. At the trial. There is something here; I don’t know what
it means; the difference may be an hour or two, according to what time
I came home that Friday night—he said between 9 and 10.
Mr. GRIFFIN. When do you think it was?
Mr. SENATOR. I would say between 10 and 11.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Let me ask you here: What did you do from the time you
heard that the President had been shot on Friday until you came home
at, say 10 o’clock? Did you work the rest of that day?
Mr. SENATOR. That was a black day; man, that was a sad day.
Mr. GRIFFIN. You were at Jack’s?
Mr. SENATOR. That was a day I will tell you I don’t think a living soul
in Dallas had any ambition to work. You would have to see that town
that day and the feeling of all the individuals in that town. It was
really a sad, sad day. It was a weeping day. I’ll tell you that is what
it was; it was a weeping day for the city.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Did you go to the Burgundy Room? Where did you go from
Jack’s when you first heard this news?
Mr. SENATOR. I think I went downtown; did a little deskwork again. I am
not sure.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Talk out loud and then we can correct it.
Mr. SENATOR. I am not sure what it was. I don’t remember anymore.
I think I went to the Burgundy Room. I think I just messed around
downtown in the area. No particular place.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Would it be a place like the Burgundy Room, a tavern?
Mr. SENATOR. Probably so; probably so.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Do you remember any people you saw on Friday?
Mr. SENATOR. I can’t recollect. It was a very sad day.
Mr. GRIFFIN. I think that is a day that is rather vivid to most of us.
I know it is with me. I am just wondering if you can’t think where you
were that day, and who you talked to.
Mr. SENATOR. In all probability I probably spoke to many people
downtown that day, or various places, wherever I may have been.
Mr. GRIFFIN. What other places are you accustomed to go to besides the
Burgundy Room?
Mr. SENATOR. The Burgundy Room; there is another place I used to drop
in, which is called the Smuggler, which is uptown. These are both
places that I went to. Of course, the Burgundy Room is No. 1. The other
place I do go just occasionally, I do go to the place occasionally.
Mr. GRIFFIN. When you say you were hanging around downtown, you were
hanging around someplace where you could have a drink, a bite to eat,
or something of that sort?
Mr. SENATOR. I would probably say that.
Mr. GRIFFIN. And you wouldn’t have been in a department store or a
drugstore, someplace like that?
Mr. SENATOR. No; I don’t think so. I mean I don’t know. A department
store; definitely I haven’t been in there.
Mr. GRIFFIN. We are talking about someplace where you could get a
drink, watch television, and watch the events on television. Did you
spend all day watching the events on television?
Mr. SENATOR. No; I didn’t. I think I was in the downtown area. I think
I was in the downtown area most of that day, if I am not mistaken.
I don’t remember just where I was. I may have floated from downtown
uptown. I don’t know.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Do you think you had quite a bit to drink that day?
Mr. SENATOR. I will probably say I had maybe a fair amount. I mean, to
be drunk or anything of that nature, I don’t think I was drunk that day.
Mr. GRIFFIN. I take it you are pretty well able to hold your liquor,
from what you said before. You feel that you are?
Mr. SENATOR. Oh, yes.