Mr. SENATOR. Kuhox?
Mr. GRIFFIN. Kuhox.
Mr. SENATOR. No.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Does anything like that ring a bell?
Mr. SENATOR. No. I don’t know anybody here. He has some first names
here. I don’t know what they mean. Brenda and Angie.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Do you recognize any of those first names?
Mr. SENATOR. No.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Let’s turn to the page that is numbered 4.
Mr. SENATOR. I know Bill Willis. Bill Willis was the drummer in the
band at the Carousel Club. Tom Palmer is here again.
Mr. GRIFFIN. You talked about him.
Mr. SENATOR. Yes. Kathy Kay is a stripper. Andy is the boy. I assume
that is Andy.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Andy Armstrong?
Mr. SENATOR. Yes. I assume the first name Kathy is Kathy Kay; right?
Mr. GRIFFIN. I don’t know.
Mr. SENATOR. That is what I think it is anyhow. I don’t know. This
girl, I never knew her last name, but this could have been a former
stripper of some time back, this Lauri.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Lauri?
Mr. SENATOR. Yes.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Does Lauri have a last name?
Mr. SENATOR. There is a last name here, but I don’t know who.
Mr. GRIFFIN. What is the last name?
Mr. SENATOR. Womack, W-o-m-a-c-k. I knew a Lauri, I think, that was a
stripper for him for a while. I think it was last summer if I am not
mistaken, or something like that. Russ Knight.
Mr. GRIFFIN. K-n-i-g-h-t?
Mr. SENATOR. He is with a radio station, but I can’t think which one.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Have you met him?
Mr. SENATOR. Yes; I knew Russ.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Where have you met him?
Mr. SENATOR. I have met him—I have seen him at the bowling alley when
we used to go up there at night. I have seen him on rare occasions when
he would come down to the Carousel. He was, I guess you would call him,
a disc jockey.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Who did you bowl with?
Mr. SENATOR. Sometimes people—very seldom, mind you, very seldom—but
sometimes people from the club which was very seldom. As a matter of
fact, I only bowled one time, I believe. It wears me out particularly.
But very seldom.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Did Jack bowl frequently?
Mr. SENATOR. No.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Did he bowl more than you did?
Mr. SENATOR. Maybe a little more. I’ll tell you, this particular alley
is a tremendous place in Dallas, but we always went up there to eat, on
occasions, when we did go. It was always we would go up there to eat.
They had a big restaurant there.
Mr. GRIFFIN. What eating places did Jack frequent?
Mr. SENATOR. A lot of times when he went out, the majority of the times
when he went out I wasn’t with him when he went out to eat. But he has
been to—of course, it probably pertains to the time of day or night,
you know, but he ate in the waffle shops, he ate at—wait; it will
come to me in a minute. There is a couple on Commerce just above the
Adolphus Hotel. What in the world is the name of it?
Mr. GRIFFIN. The Egyptian Lounge?
Mr. SENATOR. He has ate at the Egyptian Lounge, but there is a couple
in the downtown area.
Mr. GRIFFIN. That he ate at regularly, I take it?
Mr. SENATOR. It is not, particularly. I can’t say regularly. I don’t
know. Let me say he just varies the place. He may want to try certain
foods, I don’t know.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Did Jack visit the Dallas Cabana?
Mr. SENATOR. Dallas Cabana? What in the world is the Dallas Cabana?
Mr. GRIFFIN. The Cabana Motel.
Mr. SENATOR. The Cabana?
Mr. GRIFFIN. Yes.
Mr. SENATOR. Yes; Jack has been down there.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Does he have friends there?
Mr. SENATOR. I don’t know if he has friends there or not. He certainly
probably does know some people there. Yes; there is one chap he knew
there that I know for sure, and I think he was the assistant, if he is
still there, was the assistant manager. There is Ralph Paul. Of course,
I am certain you have heard of his name before, Ralph Paul.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Yes; Ralph we talked about earlier. How often would Jack
see Ralph?
Mr. SENATOR. Ralph would come up, I would probably say he would
probably come up maybe two or three times a week, about like that.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Would they telephone each other during the week also?
Mr. SENATOR. I would probably say they have. I mean, not that I was
always around when he did, if he did telephone him, but I am certain
there were telephone calls.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Did you ever have any occasion to telephone Ralph Paul?
Mr. SENATOR. Did I ever have occasion?
Mr. GRIFFIN. Yes.
Mr. SENATOR. I called him, yes; I called him a couple of times. The
reason I called him, I had no car, I had to go down and see him once in
a while, a free lunch. He has got this place in Arlington, if you know
where Arlington is, called the Bullpen. It is one of these barbecue
places.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Did you talk to Ralph Paul on the weekend of the 22d, 23d,
and 24th of November?
Mr. SENATOR. By phone?
Mr. GRIFFIN. Yes.
Mr. SENATOR. Not that I know of.
Mr. GRIFFIN. How about in person?
Mr. SENATOR. It may have been possible that I may have seen him. I just
don’t recall if I have seen him on that weekend. I can’t say yes or no,
but it may have been possible that I may have seen him at the club. Oh,
no; the club wasn’t even open.
Mr. GRIFFIN. This was after the President was killed?
Mr. SENATOR. Yes; no, I don’t think I did. I don’t think I have seen
him.
Mr. GRIFFIN. You seem to have some recollection, though, that you might
have.
Mr. SENATOR. No; let’s see. No; I saw him, I think the first time I saw
him was, it may have been, I would say within the week. I can’t name a
date or a day. But I will say within the week after the Ruby shooting
up at the Carousel. That is about the best that I can recollect on that.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Do you recall talking to Little Lynn at any time on
Friday, Saturday, or Sunday, November 22, 23, or 24?
Mr. SENATOR. No; I didn’t even see her.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Do you know her husband?
Mr. SENATOR. No; but I have seen him—if it is her husband—sort of a
blond. I will tell you where I have seen him. I saw him the day of that
trial when she was carrying that gun, he come up with her, if it is her
husband or if it is her boy friend, I don’t know what.
The reason I say that, because to the best of my knowledge I don’t
even know if she wore a marriage band. But I have seen him. I think he
is sort of a blondish-haired fellow. I don’t even know his name. I am
through with this. Do you want the next page, page 6?
Mr. GRIFFIN. Yes; go ahead.
Mr. SENATOR. There is a Joe Slayton here. Of course, Joe Slayton—this
Joe Slayton, I know him by sight but I don’t know him by conversation.
Wally Weston, he was an MC of his. I know this guy only by reading
about him, Earl Wilson, the New York Post. I don’t know him. I believe
this Tony Turner here, this name is a stripper.
Mr. GRIFFIN. T-o-n-i?
Mr. SENATOR. T-o-n-y it says here.
Mr. GRIFFIN. You think that is a stripper?
Mr. SENATOR. Tony Turner is T-o-n-i. I think that is how she spells her
name. This says Tony, T-o-n-y, Turner. It could be a man. I don’t know.
I am only guessing at this one here. Tammi True. I know her. This is a
stripper. Then there is Kay here. I don’t know if that is Kathy Kay,
or what it is. That is all I know on this one. One here says Porter.
I don’t know what that is. I don’t know what that means, if that is a
porter, or what it is.
Mr. GRIFFIN. I don’t know, either. How about page 7? Let me just read
off the names and see if you recognize them. Phil Olian?
Mr. SENATOR. No.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Wendy Knight?
Mr. SENATOR. No.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Wanda?
Mr. SENATOR. Just a girl’s name?
Mr. GRIFFIN. Yes.
Mr. SENATOR. I think, I am not sure now; I think he had a cocktail
waitress by the name of Wanda, if I am not mistaken, at one time. I am
not sure.