DISCUSSION

DR. E. E. SOUTHARD, Boston: Idiopathic epilepsy as found in Massachusetts

material and estimated from the appearances in the gross anatomy of the

brain occurs in about one of every three cases. There are accordingly more

idiopathic epilepsies than there are idiopathic or "functional" psychoses,

if the data of gross anatomy form a reliable index.

It was a somewhat curious thing that in a series of cases investigated by

Dr. Thom and myself, that the more frequent the attacks of epilepsy the less

there seemed to be to show for them in the autopsied brains. In certain

cases with daily attacks the brains were strictly normal in gross

appearances. It was the frankly organic cases with large focal lesions that

had the occasional attacks. These frankly organic cases rarely had high

frequency attacks.

DR. TOM A. WILLIAMS, Washington, D. C.: Will Dr. Clark explain the eccentric

convulsions such as when there is uraemia, on similar grounds? Also, if he

will postulate in such cases as recover with metabolic treatment. I have

published cases in which recurrent attacks of some years duration were

removed by means which considered only the metebolesia. (See Journal of

Neurology and Psychiatry, March, 1915.)

DR. JOHN T. MACCURDY, New York: I have held the opinion for some years that

the study of epilepsy was going to be of greater psychiatric moment than

that of any other condition. I feel that this promise has been very largely

fulfilled by the work Dr. Clark has been doing for the last two years. We

have found, I think, from that work that we can really shell out what we may

term an epileptic reaction, which is really the most primitive of all

psychiatric reaction. It corresponds to a flight from reality. It is a

return to the subjective phase, which, in the psychoses, is no vague but a

very real thing. In epilepsy we get it in pure culture as a lapse of

consciousness, expressed either in completeness as in a grand mal attack or

partially when consciousness is merely clouded. Sleep probably represents an

analogous condition. We go to sleep to repair the body while psychologically

we are seeking that flight from reality which we all long for. The

convulsion may be a secondary affair, and a physiological sequel to the loss

of consciousness, which is psychologically determined.

L. PIERCE CLARK: For the time being I am anxious to limit my remarks to the

mechanism of ESSENTIAL epilepsy, and, not to convulsive disorders in

general, however closely allied to idiopathic epilepsy. At some future time

I hope to take up the epileptoid convulsions and show their relationship and

variation from that of the mechanism of essential epilepsy. I may say,

however, that I have some data already at hand in which certain types of

epileptic phenomena connected with infantile cerebral hemiplegia would show

that the so-called epileptic constitution is much less marked in these

cases, but is present, however, to a certain degree. As has been well known

for a number of years and commented upon by such observers as Gowers,

Jackson and Binswanger, the so-called hemiplegic epilepsies sooner or later

develop the epileptic alteration in a character analogous to that seen in

idiopathic epilepsy. I hope to show that the main roots of the so-called

epileptic alteration in general necessarily lie in the primary make-up of

such individuals, and that the seizure phenomena of epilepsy only intensify

and make more marked the fundamental make-up when the disease has definitely

fastened itself upon the individual. My next paper on this whole subject

will attempt to show more conclusively that the epileptic seizures are but

an unfoldment of that which has already been existent in the biological

make-up of the individual epileptic.

DR. TRIGANT BURROW, Baltimore, Md., read a paper entitled "Material

Illustrative of the 'principle of Primary Identification.' "[*]

[*] Reserved for publication.

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