Mr. CRAFARD. This man looks familiar, but----

Mr. GRIFFIN. The man at the table looks familiar to you?

Mr. CRAFARD. Yes.

Mr. GRIFFIN. Can you probe your memory some and try to tell us why he

looks familiar?

Mr. CRAFARD. He looks like somebody I saw in the Carousel Club.

Mr. GRIFFIN. Would he be one of the men from Los Angeles that you

referred to?

Mr. CRAFARD. It could be. I wouldn’t swear to it.

Mr. GRIFFIN. How often do you think that you saw that man around the

Carousel Club?

Mr. CRAFARD. It wasn’t but a couple of times. It couldn’t have been.

Mr. GRIFFIN. Is that a picture of any club that you recognize in Dallas?

Mr. CRAFARD. None that I have ever been in. I was never in any of the

other clubs except to the Carousel and the Vegas.

Mr. GRIFFIN. Would you be sure that that is not a picture of any part

of the Vegas?

Mr. CRAFARD. No, it is not a picture of the Vegas. They didn’t have a

back bar there.

Mr. GRIFFIN. Do you see the man who appears to be a bartender in that

picture?

Mr. CRAFARD. I should know him because it looks like--he looks like an

older fellow who was around the club quite often with Jack, but I can’t

remember.

Mr. HUBERT. Let the record show that the witness was referring to the

picture identified as Exhibit 5201.

Mr. GRIFFIN. Do you remember a fellow by the name of Ryan, who was

friendly with Jack Ruby, and who also went by the name of Roy William

Pike?

Mr. CRAFARD. William Ryan is familiar, but this other man, it wouldn’t

be Mickey?

Mr. GRIFFIN. Mickey Ryan. Is that Mickey Ryan that worked the bar?

Mr. CRAFARD. I couldn’t say. The picture is really--if I would see the

man and the picture together I might be able to----

Mr. HUBERT. When you say the man in the picture, which man are you

talking about?

Mr. CRAFARD. The man who appears to be a bartender.

Mr. GRIFFIN. Let me see if I understand. Do you make some association

in your mind between the picture of the bartender here and the fellow

you remember as Mickey Ryan?

Mr. CRAFARD. Yes. There is quite a similarity.

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