Mr. TURNER. No; they didn’t--they didn’t say where the exit would be.
We never knew that. We were just guessing at that point.
Mr. HUBERT. All right.
Mr. TURNER. We were never told that they were coming out the Commerce
Street entrance. We just assumed, since it was the entrance to the
jail, he would come out that way, so, we positioned the camera on top
of the remote truck to pick up if he did come out that way.
Mr. HUBERT. Why didn’t you make your preparation for an exit from the
Main Street ramp?
Mr. TURNER. We had only three cameras, and from all--the way that all
the cars had been coming out of the jail, they had been coming out the
Commerce Street exit. We hadn’t given any idea that they would reverse
and go out through the Main Street.
Mr. HUBERT. Is it normally that Main Street is the entrance and
Commerce is the exit?
Mr. TURNER. That’s right, so that gave us our idea that he would be
brought out that way, and we would get a shot of him leaving.
Mr. HUBERT. All right. You might do this for us now using that numeral
system. Place in boxes the other cameras, TV cameras of other radio
stations, if you know where they were.
Mr. TURNER. All right. Then “5” will become a camera for CBS.
Mr. HUBERT. What local station?
Mr. TURNER. KRLD. And they were in position, too, along this rail
with us. I think at first they were up here with us. This is very
vague. They were hanging the camera up on the other side, which is
position--well, I won’t position that one.
Mr. HUBERT. But they ultimately had to move down where you were? They
were on your right?
Mr. TURNER. They were on our right.
Mr. HUBERT. Were there any other cameras?
Mr. TURNER. There was only two live television cameras in the basement
at that time.
Mr. HUBERT. All right. Now, go ahead.
Mr. TURNER. Approximately 10 minutes--very vague on time--when the
activity had been completed on the third floor of the jail, we broke
a No. “2” camera down, which I will number “6,” entering the door. It
came down the elevator. It was completely on the tripod.
Mr. HUBERT. It came down over here? Not the jail elevator?
Mr. TURNER. Not the jail elevator, we never had access to that room,
the jail office here. It came down, and as it was entering the two
double doors I left my camera in position, which is box “4,” it came
over the rails. Let me number this up too. “6” would be our camera
coming from the third floor. I immediately left my camera position when
I saw them entering, to help get the camera down, and relieve one of
the boys which could--which he could go up and get the camera cables to
connect his camera up to make it live.
Mr. HUBERT. Now, when that camera became--when that camera began to
come through the swinging door in the jail corridor, how many men were
pushing it?
Mr. TURNER. Two men.
Mr. HUBERT. Who were they?
Mr. TURNER. Dave Timmons and John Tankersley.
Mr. HUBERT. Did you have to go over and assist them?
Mr. TURNER. After they had come from the door, I ran off my--ran off
from my position of “4,” to position “6,” after they came to the door,
and helped them to move the camera to where we are putting----