Mr. HUBERT. Is it possible that Mrs. Cason----

Mr. HULSE. It is quite possible that she did.

Mr. HUBERT. How would she do it? Were you in the same office with her?

Mr. HULSE. No, now, I was in another office which is divided by a plate

glass, but we also have an intercom system and it is quite possible she

told me through the intercom system that Oswald had been shot.

Mr. HUBERT. When you heard that, what did you do?

Mr. HULSE. I knew that she had already ordered an ambulance. I knew 605

had just cleared from a previous call. Best I can remember I asked her

what ambulance was going, what ambulance had been ordered and she told

me 607.

Mr. HUBERT. All right.

Mr. HULSE. I knew that 605 would probably be closer to the basement,

and I disregarded 607, and ordered 605 on the air.

Mr. HUBERT. All right, now, how did you know that 605 was nearby?

Mr. HULSE. When he heard the call come out on the shooting in the

basement, the best I can remember, he told me he was probably closer to

the basement than 607.

Mr. HUBERT. That is to say that you were in radio communication with

605?

Mr. HULSE. Yes.

Mr. HUBERT. Ambulance 605?

Mr. HULSE. Yes.

Mr. HUBERT. And he heard the call for ambulance 607?

Mr. HULSE. I am not positive whether he heard--no, he never did

dispatch 607 at all. It was handled through the telephone by Mrs.

Cason, but he knew that there was an ambulance needed for this shooting

victim, and he told me he would probably be closer.

Mr. HUBERT. Than the other?

Mr. HULSE. Than any ambulance. I’m not sure whether he said that he

would be closer than 607, but he said closer to the basement than any

other ambulance.

Mr. HUBERT. Isn’t it a fact that you had heard ambulance 605, on

channel 1, announcing to his own company just shortly before this all

happened that he was clear and that you remembered that he was clear

and was going back towards his company?

Mr. HULSE. Yes; that is correct. He had just cleared from a previous

call, and was en route back to the company, which I presume he would be

in the immediate downtown vicinity.

Mr. HUBERT. And isn’t that the reason why you then, realized that 605

had just cleared, as you had heard him clear over your radio, and you

realized that he was closer, and that is why you called 605?

Mr. HULSE. Yes; plus that he told me that he would probably be closer

himself, on the radio.

Mr. HUBERT. I would like you to look at Exhibit 5135 and tell us what

portion of that card is written in your hand?

Mr. HULSE. Just the squad number, which I first dispatched to squad

108. He was on another assignment, so I dispatched it then to 118.

Mr. HUBERT. So, that the column, or block which there is printed the

word, “Squad assigned is 108,” and it appears to be scratched out and

immediately above it is “118,” is that right?

Mr. HULSE. Yes; that’s correct.

Mr. HUBERT. All in your handwriting?

Mr. HULSE. All that.

Mr. HUBERT. Now, I notice that there is printed on that card by what

apparently is a timeclock two figures, “time dispatched C-11:22,

November 24,” would you explain what you had to do with that, if

anything?

Mr. HULSE. The time dispatched, the time that it is explained here,

11:22, November 24, is the time that I actually dispatched the call to

108, and then finding out he was on another assignment, I dispatched it

also to 118.

Mr. HUBERT. Below there there is a block called, “time clear, 1:49

p.m., November 24,” would you explain that, please?

Mr. HULSE. That is the time that squad 118 cleared from the assignment.

Mr. HUBERT. And they advised you of that and you put the card in the

timeclock, is that right?

Mr. HULSE. Yes, sir.

Mr. HUBERT. Now, this Exhibit 5135, was actually prepared by Mrs.

Cason, was it not?

Mr. HULSE. Yes; it was.

Mr. HUBERT. And she would have had it stamped in this box called

“Ambulance ordered,” and “time received,” isn’t that right?

Mr. HULSE. That’s right.

Mr. HUBERT. Then after she made up the card and had it stamped, how did

it get to you?

Mr. HULSE. It is put on a conveyer belt that runs from one room to the

radio room, this conveyor belt, and falls into a box, and I pick it up.

Mr. HUBERT. And your--you have your own timeclock there?

Mr. HULSE. Yes, sir.

Mr. HUBERT. So, as soon as you have done what you said you did, you

slip it into a stamp machine and it automatically stamps the time?

Mr. HULSE. That’s correct.

Mr. HUBERT. Now, I notice that there is an initial in the column right

next to the figure “118,” “MJ,” which Mrs. Cason advises was put there

by her. Do you know who that refers to?

Mr. HULSE. Yes, sir; the other officer that was working on the radio

with me. In this--“MJ” M. J. Jackson, his initials, M. J.

Mr. HUBERT. But, as a matter of fact you handled it?

Mr. HULSE. Yes; I actually handled the dispatching of the call and the

ambulance.

Mr. HUBERT. Why didn’t he do it?

Mr. HULSE. Well, at that time Mr. Jackson was fairly new to the radio

dispatcher’s office and everything was in such a turmoil there I

decided that I would handle all transmissions made on the radio, seeing

that he was new to the office and didn’t know quite how to handle the

calls under the conditions.

Mr. HUBERT. And in any case, you distinctly remember handling the call

which is reflected by this Exhibit 5135?

Mr. HULSE. Yes; I do.

Mr. HUBERT. Now, Officer Hulse, we had an interview now, you and I, did

we not, immediately before the beginning of this deposition?

Mr. HULSE. Yes; we did.

Mr. HUBERT. Can you recall anything that was covered in that interview

which has not been covered in this deposition?

Mr. HULSE. No; I couldn’t. I believe all has been covered.

Mr. HUBERT. Can you think of any inconsistencies between what was

developed in the course of the interview and what was developed in the

course of the deposition?

Mr. HULSE. No.

Mr. HUBERT. Have you any other comments that you would like to make

concerning this matter of any nature whatsoever?

Mr. HULSE. No, sir; I have told everything I know about it.

Mr. HUBERT. Thank you, sir.

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