Mr. HUBERT. Now----

Mr. SORRELS. I don’t recall any statement like that.

Mr. HUBERT. Now, Mr. Stern is going to take over, and I am going to ask

him to handle the identification of your notes.

(Mr. Hubert left. Mr. Stern requested Mr. Griffin to handle the

identification of documents.)

Mr. GRIFFIN. Let me state that for the limited purpose of having Agent

Sorrels identify three sets of documents I am going to ask a series of

questions of Agent Sorrels.

Mr. Sorrels, I want to hand you a Xerox copy of a document which is

a part of our files, and numbered Commission No. 354, and is your

Secret Service serial 1,007, consisting of four pages, which you have

previously identified, and Mr. Hubert has marked “Deposition of Forrest

Sorrels, Washington, D.C., May 6, 1964,” and signed Leon D. Hubert.

I have added the additional designation “Exhibit 1,” on the first page

of this four page exhibit. I want you to look at that and tell me if

that is in fact the same exhibit you identified previously as I have

described it.

Mr. SORRELS. Yes, sir; it is.

Mr. GRIFFIN. Now, let me hand you what I have marked for the purpose

of identification as deposition of Forrest Sorrels, May 6, 1964,

Washington, D.C. This exhibit consists of four different pages which

I have numbered consecutively Exhibits 2-A, 2-B, 2-C, and 2-D, and

purports to be a Xerox copy of notes that you made of the interview

that took place with Jack Ruby in Captain Fritz’ office at 3:15 on

November 24, 1963.

Would you examine Exhibits 2-A, 2-B, 2-C, and 2-D and compare them with

the pages of your notebook which you have referred to previously in the

deposition, and tell us if that is a true and exact copy of all of the

notes that you have that pertain to the 3:15 interview with Jack Ruby?

Mr. SORRELS. Yes, that is correct.

Mr. GRIFFIN. Let me hand you what I have marked for the purpose of

identification deposition of Forrest Sorrels, May 6, 1964, Washington,

D.C., which is a document consisting of three pages, which I have

numbered consecutively Exhibit 3-A, Exhibit 3-B, Exhibit 3-C. This

exhibit purports to be a Xerox copy of notes that you took at an

interview with Jack Ruby in the fifth floor jail cell shortly after

Ruby shot Lee Oswald on November 24. I want you to compare these

exhibits to pages which you have testified to previously are in your

notebook, and tell me if Exhibits 3-A, 3-B, and 3-C are true and exact

copies of those pages which appear in your notebook?

Mr. SORRELS. Yes, they are. But there is portions that do not pertain

to the interview with Ruby in the Dallas City Jail on the morning of

November 24, 1963--but certain portions happen to be on the same page

as the notes made at that time were made.

Mr. GRIFFIN. Now, directing your attention to Exhibit 3-A, would you

tell us if that portion which pertains to Ruby--the Ruby interview in

the jail cell, and appears on that page, follows consecutively from

some point on that page?

Mr. SORRELS. Yes, from about the center of the page, below a wavy line

drawn across it, continuing on the second page, marked Exhibit 3-B,

and the third page marked Exhibit 3-C, down to the lower portion ending

with “deceased mother.”

Mr. GRIFFIN. All right. Now, directing your attention to Exhibit 3-A,

would you read the first two lines on Exhibit 3-A that consist of the

notes taken at your interview with Ruby in the fifth floor jail cell?

Mr. SORRELS. “Chicago, 3-25-1911, Jack Ruby (Rubenstein),

Entertainment, Carousel Club. Had business closed for 3 days.”

Mr. GRIFFIN. Now, let me hand you again Exhibit No. 1, and ask you if

that is a true and accurate copy, to sign your name on the first page

of that exhibit.

Mr. SORRELS. Yes, it is.

Mr. GRIFFIN. Would you sign your name, then, on the first page of the

exhibit?

Mr. SORRELS. Yes, sir.

Mr. GRIFFIN. Let me hand you what has been marked as Exhibit 2-A, B and

C, and D, and ask you if that is a true and accurate copy to sign your

name on the first page of Exhibit 2-A.

Mr. SORRELS. Yes.

Mr. GRIFFIN. Let me hand you, Mr. Sorrels, Exhibit 3-A, B, and C, and

ask you the same question with respect to that, and ask you to do the

same thing.

Mr. SORRELS. Yes, sir.

Mr. GRIFFIN. Now, let the record reflect that I am putting my initials,

BWG, on pages 2-A, 2-B, 2-C, and 2-D. Let the record reflect I have

done the same thing with pages 3-A, 3-B, and 3-C.

Mr. STERN. Mr. Smith, are there any questions you would like to ask Mr.

Sorrels at this stage of his deposition, to clarify any points on the

record?

Mr. SMITH. Yes, just with respect to one point.

Mr. STERN. Please go ahead.

Mr. SMITH. Mr. Sorrels, you testified that in your interview with Jack

Ruby in the jail, you did not warn him of his constitutional rights.

Was this due to oversight on your part?

Mr. SORRELS. No, it was not.

Mr. SMITH. Will you state, then, the reason why you did not do so?

Mr. SORRELS. My purpose in getting to Jack Ruby and talking to him

as quickly as I did was to determine whether or not he was involved

with anyone else in connection with the shooting of Lee Harvey Oswald,

and also to determine whether or not Jack Ruby had any connection

or association with Lee Harvey Oswald. I did not warn him of his

constitutional rights, because insofar as I was concerned at this

particular interview, my conversation with him was not--strike was

not--had no bearing insofar as the murder case against Jack Ruby was

concerned.

My purpose was trying to obtain information for my service to determine

whether or not there were others involved in this case that would be

of concern to the Secret Service in connection with their protective

duties of the President of the United States and the Vice President.

Mr. STERN. Is there anything else, Mr. Smith, you would like to cover?

Mr. SMITH. No. Thank you.

Mr. STERN. Mr. Sorrels, you have had a lengthy session here today. If

it is convenient for you, I would prefer to carry on that part of it

that I am interested in tomorrow morning, rather than to try to finish

late today. Would that be convenient for you?

Mr. SORRELS. That is satisfactory for me, yes.

Mr. STERN. Fine. Why don’t we suspend now and resume in the morning.

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