Mr. McMILLON. Yes.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Or just in front of it?
Mr. McMILLON. Part of them were behind this railing and some of them
were over in here and along in here like that.
Mr. GRIFFIN. So most of the news people were strung out along the
railing extending toward the armored car, is that right, or toward the
Commerce Street ramp?
Mr. McMILLON. It seemed to me like that most of them was in an area
something similar to this.
Mr. GRIFFIN. All right. You want to put some sort of a mark where they
were?
Mr. McMILLON. It seemed to me like they were in there. Of course, there
were some along in here. Of course, they weren’t orderly.
Mr. GRIFFIN. As they never are. Would you write in there “News Media”
or something to that effect? Okay. That has been marked “Press.” Now,
can you describe how thickly the people were congregated from the west
wall of the Main Street ramp across?
Mr. McMILLON. This is the west wall?
Mr. GRIFFIN. Yes, sir; how thickly were they congregated across to the
railing?
Mr. McMILLON. I don’t know, but there were some officers lined up
across this way to some point.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Do you remember where any of those officers were?
Mr. McMILLON. Yes; I think “Blackie” Harrison was along in here. I
don’t remember who else was along in here.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Would you put a mark where Harrison was?
Mr. McMILLON. Seems to me like he was along in here.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Would you put his name where Harrison was?
Mr. McMILLON. What did you say his initials are?
Mr. GRIFFIN. W. J.
Mr. McMILLON. W. J.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Now, you put an “X” there where you think Harrison was?
Mr. McMILLON. Yes. He was along in here. He was on out past this deal,
past this.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Did you see him there, oh, 5 minutes before Oswald was
brought down?
Mr. McMILLON. I don’t recall. I am sure that he was.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Do you have any recollection as to whether or not he took
up a position and generally held it in the same spot?
Mr. McMILLON. I am sure that he did because we had the line. It seemed
to me like it was a pretty orderly line of officers, in other words,
seemed to be pretty straight, in other words, this flank.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Uh-huh. Now, when Rio Pierce’s car went up the ramp, what
did you see happen?
Mr. McMILLON. Well, they had the red lights on.
Mr. GRIFFIN. And how far did you see him go up the ramp?
Mr. McMILLON. Well, I couldn’t see very far. I could see him right here
just starting up the deal, swinging up this way and starting up this
way. I can see him go up the ramp, but standing here, you can’t see up
very far.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Did you move out at all to see the car go?
Mr. McMILLON. No. I may have done like that to see who it was.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Looked around the corner?
Mr. McMILLON. But you can’t see from there up the ramp.
Mr. GRIFFIN. I see. Now, between the time that Pierce’s car went out
and Oswald was brought down, where did you look, what were you looking
at?
Mr. McMILLON. I was looking straight ahead, and I think I heard
somebody say, “Here he comes,” and naturally you become a little bit
more attentive or a little bit more rigid, I will say, but they hadn’t
left very long before they started bringing Oswald out.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Now, is it your understanding that you believed that the
three men, who you have marked here, Miller, you and----
Mr. McMILLON. Watson.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Watson were supposed, as Oswald got to them, to move out
sort of on the flank and move with them to the armored car?
Mr. McMILLON. Yes, just like, the way I had done, you know, just kind
of make, say, a left face and the ones on that side were doing the same
thing, and he would be walking between us. That----
Mr. GRIFFIN. I see.
Mr. McMILLON. That was my understanding.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Now, do you remember anybody specifically telling you this?
Mr. McMILLON. Captain Jones told us, you know, to form two lines on
both sides of him, form the barrier. The exact wording, I don’t know,
but form the barrier until they got the man in the car, and keep those
people away from him.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Now, did you see anybody come down into the basement at
any time while you were down there and ask if everything was all ready?
Mr. McMILLON. Come down that ramp?
Mr. GRIFFIN. No, no. Did anyone come down into the basement area to
determine if things were set up properly?
Mr. McMILLON. Well, the fact of what I know, the man that I heard came
right by me. I don’t know if he was speaking directly to me or not, but
I answered, “Yes, sir,” something to that effect. Still don’t know if
he was speaking directly to me or not, but it was Captain Fritz coming
out of the jail office followed by Leavelle, Graves, and Oswald.
Mr. GRIFFIN. When Captain Fritz spoke in your direction, that was the
first time, was it, that anybody that you can recall inquired as to
whether things were all set up?
Mr. McMILLON. Uh-huh.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Now, when Fritz--when Oswald emerged from that door, what
did Watson do?
Mr. McMILLON. I don’t know.
Mr. GRIFFIN. What did you do?
Mr. McMILLON. When Oswald came out of the door?
Mr. GRIFFIN. Yes.
Mr. McMILLON. Well, I was standing kind of like this.