Mr. GRIFFIN. You are talking about the hallway that, as you open the
door off the third floor hallway?
Mr. GRAVES. No, I am talking about the hallway between the little
office and captain’s office.
Mr. GRIFFIN. For the record, about how far were you from the third
floor hallway when this conversation took place?
Mr. GRAVES. 25 feet, approximately.
Mr. GRIFFIN. And do you remember the other officers who were standing
around at the time?
Mr. GRAVES. Well, Leavelle and Montgomery for sure. I don’t know who
else right now. Beck--Dhority and Beck both could have been in there. I
am not sure about that.
Mr. GRIFFIN. How long did this conversation with Captain Fritz last?
Mr. GRAVES. Just long enough to say that--“We are going to get him down
and talk to him, and get the car ready in the basement.” Told Dhority
and Brown what to do about the cars, also Beck, and so, we went up and
got him and brought him down.
Mr. GRIFFIN. At the time that you were instructed to go up and bring
down Oswald, were Dhority and Brown given instructions by Fritz about
the automobiles?
Mr. GRAVES. I’m going to have to say that I am not sure whether it was
at that moment, or after we brought him down, and I kind of believe
that it was then that they got the cars ready and put them in the
basement, and that at the last minute just before we took him down, we
were instructed to move that car up there to the entrance exit of the
jail office, and I am pretty sure that that is the way that went.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Well, now, just directing your attention to the time that
you were instructed to go up and bring Oswald down for interrogation,
what other conversation do you remember taking place with Fritz?
Mr. GRAVES. Well, that was all that was said to me at that time.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Who went up with you?
Mr. GRAVES. Leavelle and Dhority.
Mr. GRIFFIN. And did you talk with Lee Oswald on your way down?
Mr. GRAVES. No, didn’t say anything to him.
Mr. GRIFFIN. What did you do after you brought Oswald down to the
homicide bureau?
Mr. GRAVES. Brought him in the office with Captain Fritz and the other
people that were in there.