SOCRATES: And mine, noble Alcibiades, to Daedalus, and he to Hephaestus,

son of Zeus. But, for all that, we are far inferior to them. For they

are descended 'from Zeus,' through a line of kings--either kings

of Argos and Lacedaemon, or kings of Persia, a country which the

descendants of Achaemenes have always possessed, besides being at

various times sovereigns of Asia, as they now are; whereas, we and our

fathers were but private persons. How ridiculous would you be thought if

you were to make a display of your ancestors and of Salamis the island

of Eurysaces, or of Aegina, the habitation of the still more ancient

Aeacus, before Artaxerxes, son of Xerxes. You should consider how

inferior we are to them both in the derivation of our birth and in other

particulars. Did you never observe how great is the property of the

Spartan kings? And their wives are under the guardianship of the Ephori,

who are public officers and watch over them, in order to preserve as

far as possible the purity of the Heracleid blood. Still greater is the

difference among the Persians; for no one entertains a suspicion that

the father of a prince of Persia can be any one but the king. Such is

the awe which invests the person of the queen, that any other guard is

needless. And when the heir of the kingdom is born, all the subjects of

the king feast; and the day of his birth is for ever afterwards kept

as a holiday and time of sacrifice by all Asia; whereas, when you and

I were born, Alcibiades, as the comic poet says, the neighbours hardly

knew of the important event. After the birth of the royal child, he is

tended, not by a good-for-nothing woman-nurse, but by the best of the

royal eunuchs, who are charged with the care of him, and especially with

the fashioning and right formation of his limbs, in order that he may

be as shapely as possible; which being their calling, they are held in

great honour. And when the young prince is seven years old he is put

upon a horse and taken to the riding-masters, and begins to go out

hunting. And at fourteen years of age he is handed over to the royal

schoolmasters, as they are termed: these are four chosen men, reputed to

be the best among the Persians of a certain age; and one of them is the

wisest, another the justest, a third the most temperate, and a fourth

the most valiant. The first instructs him in the magianism of Zoroaster,

the son of Oromasus, which is the worship of the Gods, and teaches him

also the duties of his royal office; the second, who is the justest,

teaches him always to speak the truth; the third, or most temperate,

forbids him to allow any pleasure to be lord over him, that he may be

accustomed to be a freeman and king indeed,--lord of himself first,

and not a slave; the most valiant trains him to be bold and fearless,

telling him that if he fears he is to deem himself a slave; whereas

Pericles gave you, Alcibiades, for a tutor Zopyrus the Thracian, a slave

of his who was past all other work. I might enlarge on the nurture and

education of your rivals, but that would be tedious; and what I have

said is a sufficient sample of what remains to be said. I have only

to remark, by way of contrast, that no one cares about your birth or

nurture or education, or, I may say, about that of any other Athenian,

unless he has a lover who looks after him. And if you cast an eye on

the wealth, the luxury, the garments with their flowing trains, the

anointings with myrrh, the multitudes of attendants, and all the other

bravery of the Persians, you will be ashamed when you discern your own

inferiority; or if you look at the temperance and orderliness and ease

and grace and magnanimity and courage and endurance and love of toil

and desire of glory and ambition of the Lacedaemonians--in all these

respects you will see that you are but a child in comparison of them.

Even in the matter of wealth, if you value yourself upon that, I must

reveal to you how you stand; for if you form an estimate of the wealth

of the Lacedaemonians, you will see that our possessions fall far short

of theirs. For no one here can compete with them either in the extent

and fertility of their own and the Messenian territory, or in the number

of their slaves, and especially of the Helots, or of their horses, or of

the animals which feed on the Messenian pastures. But I have said enough

of this: and as to gold and silver, there is more of them in Lacedaemon

than in all the rest of Hellas, for during many generations gold has

been always flowing in to them from the whole Hellenic world, and often

from the barbarian also, and never going out, as in the fable of Aesop

the fox said to the lion, 'The prints of the feet of those going in

are distinct enough;' but who ever saw the trace of money going out of

Lacedaemon? And therefore you may safely infer that the inhabitants are

the richest of the Hellenes in gold and silver, and that their kings are

the richest of them, for they have a larger share of these things, and

they have also a tribute paid to them which is very considerable. Yet

the Spartan wealth, though great in comparison of the wealth of the

other Hellenes, is as nothing in comparison of that of the Persians and

their kings. Why, I have been informed by a credible person who went up

to the king (at Susa), that he passed through a large tract of excellent

land, extending for nearly a day's journey, which the people of the

country called the queen's girdle, and another, which they called her

veil; and several other fair and fertile districts, which were reserved

for the adornment of the queen, and are named after her several

habiliments. Now, I cannot help thinking to myself, What if some one

were to go to Amestris, the wife of Xerxes and mother of Artaxerxes, and

say to her, There is a certain Dinomache, whose whole wardrobe is not

worth fifty minae--and that will be more than the value--and she has a

son who is possessed of a three-hundred acre patch at Erchiae, and he

has a mind to go to war with your son--would she not wonder to what this

Alcibiades trusts for success in the conflict? 'He must rely,' she would

say to herself, 'upon his training and wisdom--these are the things

which Hellenes value.' And if she heard that this Alcibiades who

is making the attempt is not as yet twenty years old, and is wholly

uneducated, and when his lover tells him that he ought to get education

and training first, and then go and fight the king, he refuses, and says

that he is well enough as he is, would she not be amazed, and ask 'On

what, then, does the youth rely?' And if we replied: He relies on his

beauty, and stature, and birth, and mental endowments, she would think

that we were mad, Alcibiades, when she compared the advantages which you

possess with those of her own people. And I believe that even Lampido,

the daughter of Leotychides, the wife of Archidamus and mother of Agis,

all of whom were kings, would have the same feeling; if, in your present

uneducated state, you were to turn your thoughts against her son, she

too would be equally astonished. But how disgraceful, that we should not

have as high a notion of what is required in us as our enemies'

wives and mothers have of the qualities which are required in their

assailants! O my friend, be persuaded by me, and hear the Delphian

inscription, 'Know thyself'--not the men whom you think, but these kings

are our rivals, and we can only overcome them by pains and skill. And

if you fail in the required qualities, you will fail also in becoming

renowned among Hellenes and Barbarians, which you seem to desire more

than any other man ever desired anything.

ALCIBIADES: I entirely believe you; but what are the sort of pains which

are required, Socrates,--can you tell me?

SOCRATES: Yes, I can; but we must take counsel together concerning the

manner in which both of us may be most improved. For what I am telling

you of the necessity of education applies to myself as well as to you;

and there is only one point in which I have an advantage over you.

ALCIBIADES: What is that?

SOCRATES: I have a guardian who is better and wiser than your guardian,

Pericles.

ALCIBIADES: Who is he, Socrates?

SOCRATES: God, Alcibiades, who up to this day has not allowed me to

converse with you; and he inspires in me the faith that I am especially

designed to bring you to honour.

ALCIBIADES: You are jesting, Socrates.

SOCRATES: Perhaps, at any rate, I am right in saying that all men

greatly need pains and care, and you and I above all men.

ALCIBIADES: You are not far wrong about me.

SOCRATES: And certainly not about myself.

ALCIBIADES: But what can we do?

SOCRATES: There must be no hesitation or cowardice, my friend.

ALCIBIADES: That would not become us, Socrates.

SOCRATES: No, indeed, and we ought to take counsel together: for do we

not wish to be as good as possible?

ALCIBIADES: We do.

SOCRATES: In what sort of virtue?

ALCIBIADES: Plainly, in the virtue of good men.

SOCRATES: Who are good in what?

ALCIBIADES: Those, clearly, who are good in the management of affairs.

SOCRATES: What sort of affairs? Equestrian affairs?

ALCIBIADES: Certainly not.

SOCRATES: You mean that about them we should have recourse to horsemen?

ALCIBIADES: Yes.

SOCRATES: Well, naval affairs?

ALCIBIADES: No.

SOCRATES: You mean that we should have recourse to sailors about them?

ALCIBIADES: Yes.

SOCRATES: Then what affairs? And who do them?

ALCIBIADES: The affairs which occupy Athenian gentlemen.

SOCRATES: And when you speak of gentlemen, do you mean the wise or the

unwise?

ALCIBIADES: The wise.

SOCRATES: And a man is good in respect of that in which he is wise?

ALCIBIADES: Yes.

SOCRATES: And evil in respect of that in which he is unwise?

ALCIBIADES: Certainly.

SOCRATES: The shoemaker, for example, is wise in respect of the making

of shoes?

ALCIBIADES: Yes.

SOCRATES: Then he is good in that?

ALCIBIADES: He is.

SOCRATES: But in respect of the making of garments he is unwise?

ALCIBIADES: Yes.

SOCRATES: Then in that he is bad?

ALCIBIADES: Yes.

SOCRATES: Then upon this view of the matter the same man is good and

also bad?

ALCIBIADES: True.

SOCRATES: But would you say that the good are the same as the bad?

ALCIBIADES: Certainly not.

SOCRATES: Then whom do you call the good?

ALCIBIADES: I mean by the good those who are able to rule in the city.

SOCRATES: Not, surely, over horses?

ALCIBIADES: Certainly not.

SOCRATES: But over men?

ALCIBIADES: Yes.

SOCRATES: When they are sick?

ALCIBIADES: No.

SOCRATES: Or on a voyage?

ALCIBIADES: No.

SOCRATES: Or reaping the harvest?

ALCIBIADES: No.

SOCRATES: When they are doing something or nothing?

ALCIBIADES: When they are doing something, I should say.

SOCRATES: I wish that you would explain to me what this something is.

ALCIBIADES: When they are having dealings with one another, and using

one another's services, as we citizens do in our daily life.

SOCRATES: Those of whom you speak are ruling over men who are using the

services of other men?

ALCIBIADES: Yes.

SOCRATES: Are they ruling over the signal-men who give the time to the

rowers?

ALCIBIADES: No; they are not.

SOCRATES: That would be the office of the pilot?

ALCIBIADES: Yes.

SOCRATES: But, perhaps you mean that they rule over flute-players, who

lead the singers and use the services of the dancers?

ALCIBIADES: Certainly not.

SOCRATES: That would be the business of the teacher of the chorus?

ALCIBIADES: Yes.

SOCRATES: Then what is the meaning of being able to rule over men who

use other men?

ALCIBIADES: I mean that they rule over men who have common rights of

citizenship, and dealings with one another.

SOCRATES: And what sort of an art is this? Suppose that I ask you

again, as I did just now, What art makes men know how to rule over their

fellow-sailors,--how would you answer?

ALCIBIADES: The art of the pilot.

SOCRATES: And, if I may recur to another old instance, what art enables

them to rule over their fellow-singers?

ALCIBIADES: The art of the teacher of the chorus, which you were just

now mentioning.

SOCRATES: And what do you call the art of fellow-citizens?

ALCIBIADES: I should say, good counsel, Socrates.

SOCRATES: And is the art of the pilot evil counsel?

ALCIBIADES: No.

SOCRATES: But good counsel?

ALCIBIADES: Yes, that is what I should say,--good counsel, of which the

aim is the preservation of the voyagers.

SOCRATES: True. And what is the aim of that other good counsel of which

you speak?

ALCIBIADES: The aim is the better order and preservation of the city.

SOCRATES: And what is that of which the absence or presence improves

and preserves the order of the city? Suppose you were to ask me, what is

that of which the presence or absence improves or preserves the order

of the body? I should reply, the presence of health and the absence of

disease. You would say the same?

ALCIBIADES: Yes.

SOCRATES: And if you were to ask me the same question about the eyes, I

should reply in the same way, 'the presence of sight and the absence of

blindness;' or about the ears, I should reply, that they were improved

and were in better case, when deafness was absent, and hearing was

present in them.

ALCIBIADES: True.

SOCRATES: And what would you say of a state? What is that by the

presence or absence of which the state is improved and better managed

and ordered?

ALCIBIADES: I should say, Socrates:--the presence of friendship and the

absence of hatred and division.

SOCRATES: And do you mean by friendship agreement or disagreement?

ALCIBIADES: Agreement.

SOCRATES: What art makes cities agree about numbers?

ALCIBIADES: Arithmetic.

SOCRATES: And private individuals?

ALCIBIADES: The same.

SOCRATES: And what art makes each individual agree with himself?

ALCIBIADES: The same.

SOCRATES: And what art makes each of us agree with himself about the

comparative length of the span and of the cubit? Does not the art of

measure?

ALCIBIADES: Yes.

SOCRATES: Individuals are agreed with one another about this; and

states, equally?

ALCIBIADES: Yes.

SOCRATES: And the same holds of the balance?

ALCIBIADES: True.

SOCRATES: But what is the other agreement of which you speak, and about

what? what art can give that agreement? And does that which gives it to

the state give it also to the individual, so as to make him consistent

with himself and with another?

ALCIBIADES: I should suppose so.

SOCRATES: But what is the nature of the agreement?--answer, and faint

not.

ALCIBIADES: I mean to say that there should be such friendship and

agreement as exists between an affectionate father and mother and their

son, or between brothers, or between husband and wife.

SOCRATES: But can a man, Alcibiades, agree with a woman about the

spinning of wool, which she understands and he does not?

ALCIBIADES: No, truly.

SOCRATES: Nor has he any need, for spinning is a female accomplishment.

ALCIBIADES: Yes.

SOCRATES: And would a woman agree with a man about the science of arms,

which she has never learned?

ALCIBIADES: Certainly not.

SOCRATES: I suppose that the use of arms would be regarded by you as a

male accomplishment?

ALCIBIADES: It would.

SOCRATES: Then, upon your view, women and men have two sorts of

knowledge?

ALCIBIADES: Certainly.

SOCRATES: Then in their knowledge there is no agreement of women and

men?

ALCIBIADES: There is not.

SOCRATES: Nor can there be friendship, if friendship is agreement?

ALCIBIADES: Plainly not.

SOCRATES: Then women are not loved by men when they do their own work?

ALCIBIADES: I suppose not.

SOCRATES: Nor men by women when they do their own work?

ALCIBIADES: No.

SOCRATES: Nor are states well administered, when individuals do their

own work?

ALCIBIADES: I should rather think, Socrates, that the reverse is the

truth. (Compare Republic.)

SOCRATES: What! do you mean to say that states are well administered

when friendship is absent, the presence of which, as we were saying,

alone secures their good order?

ALCIBIADES: But I should say that there is friendship among them, for

this very reason, that the two parties respectively do their own work.

SOCRATES: That was not what you were saying before; and what do you mean

now by affirming that friendship exists when there is no agreement? How

can there be agreement about matters which the one party knows, and of

which the other is in ignorance?

ALCIBIADES: Impossible.

SOCRATES: And when individuals are doing their own work, are they doing

what is just or unjust?

ALCIBIADES: What is just, certainly.

SOCRATES: And when individuals do what is just in the state, is there no

friendship among them?

ALCIBIADES: I suppose that there must be, Socrates.

SOCRATES: Then what do you mean by this friendship or agreement about

which we must be wise and discreet in order that we may be good men?

I cannot make out where it exists or among whom; according to you, the

same persons may sometimes have it, and sometimes not.

ALCIBIADES: But, indeed, Socrates, I do not know what I am saying; and I

have long been, unconsciously to myself, in a most disgraceful state.

SOCRATES: Nevertheless, cheer up; at fifty, if you had discovered your

deficiency, you would have been too old, and the time for taking care of

yourself would have passed away, but yours is just the age at which the

discovery should be made.

ALCIBIADES: And what should he do, Socrates, who would make the

discovery?

SOCRATES: Answer questions, Alcibiades; and that is a process which,

by the grace of God, if I may put any faith in my oracle, will be very

improving to both of us.

ALCIBIADES: If I can be improved by answering, I will answer.

SOCRATES: And first of all, that we may not peradventure be deceived

by appearances, fancying, perhaps, that we are taking care of ourselves

when we are not, what is the meaning of a man taking care of himself?

and when does he take care? Does he take care of himself when he takes

care of what belongs to him?

ALCIBIADES: I should think so.

SOCRATES: When does a man take care of his feet? Does he not take care

of them when he takes care of that which belongs to his feet?

ALCIBIADES: I do not understand.

SOCRATES: Let me take the hand as an illustration; does not a ring

belong to the finger, and to the finger only?

ALCIBIADES: Yes.

SOCRATES: And the shoe in like manner to the foot?

ALCIBIADES: Yes.

SOCRATES: And when we take care of our shoes, do we not take care of our

feet?

ALCIBIADES: I do not comprehend, Socrates.

SOCRATES: But you would admit, Alcibiades, that to take proper care of a

thing is a correct expression?

ALCIBIADES: Yes.

SOCRATES: And taking proper care means improving?

ALCIBIADES: Yes.

SOCRATES: And what is the art which improves our shoes?

ALCIBIADES: Shoemaking.

SOCRATES: Then by shoemaking we take care of our shoes?

ALCIBIADES: Yes.

SOCRATES: And do we by shoemaking take care of our feet, or by some

other art which improves the feet?

ALCIBIADES: By some other art.

SOCRATES: And the same art improves the feet which improves the rest of

the body?

ALCIBIADES: Very true.

SOCRATES: Which is gymnastic?

ALCIBIADES: Certainly.

SOCRATES: Then by gymnastic we take care of our feet, and by shoemaking

of that which belongs to our feet?

ALCIBIADES: Very true.

SOCRATES: And by gymnastic we take care of our hands, and by the art of

graving rings of that which belongs to our hands?

ALCIBIADES: Yes.

SOCRATES: And by gymnastic we take care of the body, and by the art of

weaving and the other arts we take care of the things of the body?

ALCIBIADES: Clearly.

SOCRATES: Then the art which takes care of each thing is different from

that which takes care of the belongings of each thing?

ALCIBIADES: True.

SOCRATES: Then in taking care of what belongs to you, you do not take

care of yourself?

ALCIBIADES: Certainly not.

SOCRATES: For the art which takes care of our belongings appears not to

be the same as that which takes care of ourselves?

ALCIBIADES: Clearly not.

SOCRATES: And now let me ask you what is the art with which we take care

of ourselves?

ALCIBIADES: I cannot say.

SOCRATES: At any rate, thus much has been admitted, that the art is

not one which makes any of our possessions, but which makes ourselves

better?

ALCIBIADES: True.

SOCRATES: But should we ever have known what art makes a shoe better, if

we did not know a shoe?

ALCIBIADES: Impossible.

SOCRATES: Nor should we know what art makes a ring better, if we did not

know a ring?

ALCIBIADES: That is true.

SOCRATES: And can we ever know what art makes a man better, if we do not

know what we are ourselves?

ALCIBIADES: Impossible.

SOCRATES: And is self-knowledge such an easy thing, and was he to be

lightly esteemed who inscribed the text on the temple at Delphi? Or is

self-knowledge a difficult thing, which few are able to attain?

ALCIBIADES: At times I fancy, Socrates, that anybody can know himself;

at other times the task appears to be very difficult.

SOCRATES: But whether easy or difficult, Alcibiades, still there is

no other way; knowing what we are, we shall know how to take care of

ourselves, and if we are ignorant we shall not know.

ALCIBIADES: That is true.

SOCRATES: Well, then, let us see in what way the self-existent can be

discovered by us; that will give us a chance of discovering our own

existence, which otherwise we can never know.

ALCIBIADES: You say truly.

SOCRATES: Come, now, I beseech you, tell me with whom you are

conversing?--with whom but with me?

ALCIBIADES: Yes.

SOCRATES: As I am, with you?

ALCIBIADES: Yes.

SOCRATES: That is to say, I, Socrates, am talking?

ALCIBIADES: Yes.

SOCRATES: And Alcibiades is my hearer?

ALCIBIADES: Yes.

SOCRATES: And I in talking use words?

ALCIBIADES: Certainly.

SOCRATES: And talking and using words have, I suppose, the same meaning?

ALCIBIADES: To be sure.

SOCRATES: And the user is not the same as the thing which he uses?

ALCIBIADES: What do you mean?

SOCRATES: I will explain; the shoemaker, for example, uses a square

tool, and a circular tool, and other tools for cutting?

ALCIBIADES: Yes.

SOCRATES: But the tool is not the same as the cutter and user of the

tool?

ALCIBIADES: Of course not.

SOCRATES: And in the same way the instrument of the harper is to be

distinguished from the harper himself?

ALCIBIADES: It is.

SOCRATES: Now the question which I asked was whether you conceive the

user to be always different from that which he uses?

ALCIBIADES: I do.

SOCRATES: Then what shall we say of the shoemaker? Does he cut with his

tools only or with his hands?

ALCIBIADES: With his hands as well.

SOCRATES: He uses his hands too?

ALCIBIADES: Yes.

SOCRATES: And does he use his eyes in cutting leather?

ALCIBIADES: He does.

SOCRATES: And we admit that the user is not the same with the things

which he uses?

ALCIBIADES: Yes.

SOCRATES: Then the shoemaker and the harper are to be distinguished from

the hands and feet which they use?

ALCIBIADES: Clearly.

SOCRATES: And does not a man use the whole body?

ALCIBIADES: Certainly.

SOCRATES: And that which uses is different from that which is used?

ALCIBIADES: True.

SOCRATES: Then a man is not the same as his own body?

ALCIBIADES: That is the inference.

SOCRATES: What is he, then?

ALCIBIADES: I cannot say.

SOCRATES: Nay, you can say that he is the user of the body.

ALCIBIADES: Yes.

SOCRATES: And the user of the body is the soul?

ALCIBIADES: Yes, the soul.

SOCRATES: And the soul rules?

ALCIBIADES: Yes.

SOCRATES: Let me make an assertion which will, I think, be universally

admitted.

ALCIBIADES: What is it?

SOCRATES: That man is one of three things.

ALCIBIADES: What are they?

SOCRATES: Soul, body, or both together forming a whole.

ALCIBIADES: Certainly.

SOCRATES: But did we not say that the actual ruling principle of the

body is man?

ALCIBIADES: Yes, we did.

SOCRATES: And does the body rule over itself?

ALCIBIADES: Certainly not.

SOCRATES: It is subject, as we were saying?

ALCIBIADES: Yes.

SOCRATES: Then that is not the principle which we are seeking?

ALCIBIADES: It would seem not.

SOCRATES: But may we say that the union of the two rules over the body,

and consequently that this is man?

ALCIBIADES: Very likely.

SOCRATES: The most unlikely of all things; for if one of the members is

subject, the two united cannot possibly rule.

ALCIBIADES: True.

SOCRATES: But since neither the body, nor the union of the two, is man,

either man has no real existence, or the soul is man?

ALCIBIADES: Just so.

SOCRATES: Is anything more required to prove that the soul is man?

ALCIBIADES: Certainly not; the proof is, I think, quite sufficient.

SOCRATES: And if the proof, although not perfect, be sufficient, we

shall be satisfied;--more precise proof will be supplied when we have

discovered that which we were led to omit, from a fear that the enquiry

would be too much protracted.

ALCIBIADES: What was that?

SOCRATES: What I meant, when I said that absolute existence must be

first considered; but now, instead of absolute existence, we have been

considering the nature of individual existence, and this may, perhaps,

be sufficient; for surely there is nothing which may be called more

properly ourselves than the soul?

ALCIBIADES: There is nothing.

SOCRATES: Then we may truly conceive that you and I are conversing with

one another, soul to soul?

ALCIBIADES: Very true.

SOCRATES: And that is just what I was saying before--that I, Socrates,

am not arguing or talking with the face of Alcibiades, but with the real

Alcibiades; or in other words, with his soul.

ALCIBIADES: True.

SOCRATES: Then he who bids a man know himself, would have him know his

soul?

ALCIBIADES: That appears to be true.

SOCRATES: He whose knowledge only extends to the body, knows the things

of a man, and not the man himself?

ALCIBIADES: That is true.

SOCRATES: Then neither the physician regarded as a physician, nor the

trainer regarded as a trainer, knows himself?

ALCIBIADES: He does not.

SOCRATES: The husbandmen and the other craftsmen are very far from

knowing themselves, for they would seem not even to know their own

belongings? When regarded in relation to the arts which they practise

they are even further removed from self-knowledge, for they only know

the belongings of the body, which minister to the body.

ALCIBIADES: That is true.

SOCRATES: Then if temperance is the knowledge of self, in respect of his

art none of them is temperate?

ALCIBIADES: I agree.

SOCRATES: And this is the reason why their arts are accounted vulgar,

and are not such as a good man would practise?

ALCIBIADES: Quite true.

SOCRATES: Again, he who cherishes his body cherishes not himself, but

what belongs to him?

ALCIBIADES: That is true.

SOCRATES: But he who cherishes his money, cherishes neither himself nor

his belongings, but is in a stage yet further removed from himself?

ALCIBIADES: I agree.

SOCRATES: Then the money-maker has really ceased to be occupied with his

own concerns?

ALCIBIADES: True.

SOCRATES: And if any one has fallen in love with the person of

Alcibiades, he loves not Alcibiades, but the belongings of Alcibiades?

ALCIBIADES: True.

SOCRATES: But he who loves your soul is the true lover?

ALCIBIADES: That is the necessary inference.

SOCRATES: The lover of the body goes away when the flower of youth

fades?

ALCIBIADES: True.

SOCRATES: But he who loves the soul goes not away, as long as the soul

follows after virtue?

ALCIBIADES: Yes.

SOCRATES: And I am the lover who goes not away, but remains with you,

when you are no longer young and the rest are gone?

ALCIBIADES: Yes, Socrates; and therein you do well, and I hope that you

will remain.

SOCRATES: Then you must try to look your best.

ALCIBIADES: I will.

SOCRATES: The fact is, that there is only one lover of Alcibiades the

son of Cleinias; there neither is nor ever has been seemingly any

other; and he is his darling,--Socrates, the son of Sophroniscus and

Phaenarete.

ALCIBIADES: True.

SOCRATES: And did you not say, that if I had not spoken first, you were

on the point of coming to me, and enquiring why I only remained?

ALCIBIADES: That is true.

SOCRATES: The reason was that I loved you for your own sake, whereas

other men love what belongs to you; and your beauty, which is not you,

is fading away, just as your true self is beginning to bloom. And I will

never desert you, if you are not spoiled and deformed by the Athenian

people; for the danger which I most fear is that you will become a lover

of the people and will be spoiled by them. Many a noble Athenian has

been ruined in this way. For the demus of the great-hearted Erechteus is

of a fair countenance, but you should see him naked; wherefore observe

the caution which I give you.

ALCIBIADES: What caution?

SOCRATES: Practise yourself, sweet friend, in learning what you ought to

know, before you enter on politics; and then you will have an antidote

which will keep you out of harm's way.

ALCIBIADES: Good advice, Socrates, but I wish that you would explain to

me in what way I am to take care of myself.

SOCRATES: Have we not made an advance? for we are at any rate tolerably

well agreed as to what we are, and there is no longer any danger, as

we once feared, that we might be taking care not of ourselves, but of

something which is not ourselves.

ALCIBIADES: That is true.

SOCRATES: And the next step will be to take care of the soul, and look

to that?

ALCIBIADES: Certainly.

SOCRATES: Leaving the care of our bodies and of our properties to

others?

ALCIBIADES: Very good.

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