INTERVIEW WITH SHEIKH DJAMAL-UD-DÎN AL-HÛSSEINY AL-AFGHANY.

Various references have been made of late to a mysterious sheikh who

from his lodgings in Paris is believed to hold the strings of the

Nationalist movement in Egypt and the religious revolt in the Soudan.

We have received the following account of this interesting personage

from a correspondent who called on him the other day in Paris:—

Sheikh Djamal-ud-dîn Al-Hûsseiny, for such is his full name and title,

was born in Cabul in the year 1837, of a noble and renowned family

in Afghanistan called the Seiyidists de Connoire (descendant of the

prophet Mahommed). He began the study of Arabic when eight years old,

and afterwards he devoted himself to the study of Mahommedan theology

and philosophy. When the Mutiny broke out in India he left Cabul and

went to that country, travelling through all parts of India, after

which he visited Mecca, returning to Afghanistan by Baghdâd and

Persia. Sheikh Djamal-ud-dîn joined Abd-ur-rahman Khan, the present

ruler of Afghanistan, when civil war broke out between them and Sher

Ali Khan. Abd-ur-rahman having been defeated by Sher Ali, Sheikh

Djamal-ud-dîn fled to Constantinople, and at this place he was courted

by the leading savants and learned men of that city, his literary

fame already having attained considerable renown throughout the East.

Soon after his arrival in Constantinople he was unanimously elected

a member of the Court of Public Instruction. While at Constantinople

his spirit blazed into fury at the spectacle of the bad and corrupt

administration of the Turks. He delivered lectures and wrote against it

in vehement terms, which resulted in his expulsion from Turkey in the

year 1871. He thereupon went to Egypt, where he had long been famous

for his remarkable knowledge of Arabic, Islamic law, and all branches

of philosophy. Hence many of the best men in Egypt and the Soudan

flocked around him, and he had several pupils whom he instructed in all

branches of Oriental learning. Amongst these pupils of his by far the

most notable was Mahammed Ahmad, the Mahdi. At Cairo he attacked Ismail

Pasha, denouncing him as the cause of the ruin of Egypt. In short he

was one of the principal instruments that caused Ismail’s downfall.

When the present Khedive came to the throne he likewise preached in

public assemblies against him as the agent of foreign intervention, and

consequently in 1880 he was exiled from Egypt. All his possessions,

such as his library and papers, were seized at Tewfik’s command by the

Egyptian Government. From Egypt he again visited India, remaining there

three years, and then two years ago he came over to Paris, in which

city he still resides.

His abode is a modest hotel near the Boulevards, where he has

apartments modestly furnished. In his habits Sheikh Djamal-ud-dîn is

very regular. Rising early in the morning, he enters his sitting room,

and peruses the newspapers, smoking his Turkish tobacco in an English

pipe. Close by him he generally keeps his Koran, and several Arabic,

Persian, Turkish books and pamphlets are scattered about his room, as

well as a number of the leading French and English newspapers. Here

we may mention that he published for a time an Arabic paper called

_Al-Urwat-ul-Wuthka, Le Lien Indissoluble_, which had an enormous

circulation in the East. Sheikh Djamal-ud-dîn has a majestic and

commanding presence (as may be seen from the accompanying portrait),

and a face of remarkable intelligence. He keeps his head uncovered

indoors, contrary to Oriental custom. It has already been mentioned

in the papers that Sheikh Djamal-ud-dîn has had and has a sort of

communication with the Mahdi. He describes him to be a very intelligent

person, well versed in Moslem theology and history. In stature he is

of moderate size, rather thin, but muscular and wiry. He grows a small

beard, and his color is bronze but by no means black, and he possesses

a sedate, pious look. In his early age the Mahdi was remarkable for

great religious principle, and was always very abstemious and kindly

disposed to the weak and poor. Before he acquired his present position

as Mahdi he believed that he felt some sort of inspiration, and

certainly now believes himself to be the Mahdi expected by all Islam,

nor, in his old master’s opinion, does he do this as a mere political

pretext.

The following is a transcript of the notes of the interview between our

representative and the Sheikh:—

What does the word Mahdi convey to Mahommedans; in what position does

it place them, and what is the effect produced on them?—Mahommedans

believe, according to Islamic tradition, that at the end of time there

will appear a Mahdi, who will be recognized by certain indications,

and his mission is to exalt Islam throughout the world. Consequently

the Mahdi’s mission is one of great importance, and its effect on

Mahommedans is very great. He who studies the history of Islam will

find that many Moslem empires were formed through a Mahdi’s mission.

Is it possible for the present Mahdi to be successful in his enterprise

and to be followed by all or a large portion of the Mahommedans?—This

matter is but like all others of the sort, and considering the present

bad condition of the Moslems, should the Mahdi gain two or three more

successes, he would certainly be followed by nearly all the Mahommedans.

Do you think it possible to crush his influence?—Yes, if they do not

fight him in his own country, thus forcing him, so to speak, to fight

and defend it; and also if they leave the defence of other countries

to the Mahommedans themselves. The best method of crushing a religious

rising, to my mind, is to allow co-religionists to do it.

As the Sheikh is not merely the tutor of the Mahdi, but also a Cabulee

savant and old partisan of Abd-ur-rahman, the conversation turned on

the Afghan question.

What is your opinion of the Russian advance?—This is a matter of great

complication, requiring for its solution the greatest consideration,

for there is no doubt that on the one hand a war between two such

great Powers as England and Russia must, besides the enormous loss

of life, cause great losses to all the world, and cause great future

complications. Further, it would not end in a short time. On the

other hand, should Russia come to amicable terms at present with

England through the mediation of Germany, or by the means of friendly

relations between the present British Cabinet and that of Russia,

the result would be more disadvantageous to England, inasmuch as

the Russian policy and intentions respecting their advance in India

cannot be doubted or misunderstood by politicians. Therefore, should

an amicable arrangement and understanding be arrived at at present,

Russia will have more time and be better able to arrange her affairs

and complete her preparations. They could cause a railway to be made

from Exeus to the frontier of Afghanistan. Further, they would be

enabled to remove any ill-feeling that may exist between them and the

tribes of Turcomans, and try to gain the friendship of the tribes of

Djamshîdé and Hûzarah, who are situated near Herat, as well as the

Uzbaks, who dwell in Balkh, who are all different in race, particularly

the Hûzarah, who differ in religion, they being Shîhists. It would

not be difficult for Russia to gain these tribes, as they are not on

very friendly terms with the Afghans. After this Russia would try and

gain the Afghans to their side by promising them the Punjaub. Russian

promises would have greater effect than all the means England can bring

to bear, inasmuch as Russian character is more akin to the Oriental

than any other. Further, the Russians would by intrigue try to incite

Indian hostility towards English, promising them self-government should

Russia succeed.

All this, however, requires time, so that if Russia should hurry

herself into war at present she would be acting against her interests,

which would show the greatest ignorance; but I do not think she

would be so foolish seeing what she would risk in a war just now. In

short, unless Russia retreats back to the Caspian Sea leaving Turcoman

and Buckharah, there cannot be perfect safety for England in India.

Although the retreat of Russia so far is difficult, yet in the future

it would be more so. It is, however, possible, and this by weakening

her power in Europe; or by England uniting with the Afghans, Persia,

and Turkey, and forcing Russia to withdraw as above stated; and for

England to withdraw from the Soudan leaving it to Mahommedans to

arrange their internal affairs. Egypt can undoubtedly improve herself

and repair, slowly but surely, the damages done. This, however, I

fear the present Government will not do, inasmuch as they slight the

Mahommedans, and that Russia will supersede them in the matter and in

gaining Moslem sympathy, time will show and prove.—_Pall Mall Gazette._

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