Mr. CLARDY. Yes, sir; shortly after he got----

Mr. HUBERT. Shortly after?

Mr. CLARDY. Yes, sir.

Mr. HUBERT. What did you ask him, and what did he reply? What did you

ask him first?

Mr. CLARDY. I asked him how he got into the basement and how long he

had been there. I don't know whether that is the exact words I asked

him in or not, and he said that Lieutenant Pierce, or he called him

Rio Pierce--I believe said Rio Pierce, Lt. Rio Pierce drove out in the

car and the officer stepped out from the ramp momentarily to talk to

Lieutenant Pierce, or said something to him, and I come in behind him

right on down the ramp, and says, "When I got approximately halfway

down the ramp I heard somebody holler, 'Hey, you,' but I don't know

whether he was hollering at me or not, but I just ducked my head and

kept coming."

Mr. HUBERT. Did he say anything further?

Mr. CLARDY. Further stated, said, "If I had planned this I couldn't

have had my timing better." Said, "It was one chance in a million." Or

something to that effect. Said, "If I had planned this, I couldn't have

had my timing any better."

Mr. HUBERT. Did he make any statement to you as to why he had done it?

Mr. CLARDY. He said--no, somebody--I was going to ask him, and I am

sure some other officer asked him as to why. He said, "Somebody had to

do it. You all couldn't."

Mr. HUBERT. Is that the only explanation he offered?

Mr. CLARDY. Well, later on we talked to him a little further and he

went into this long story about how much he thought of President

Kennedy, and how he was remorseful. Didn't want Mrs. Kennedy to have to

come to testify on a trial, and----

Mr. HUBERT. Did he say anything here to indicate that he had any

accomplices in his act?

Mr. CLARDY. No, sir.

Mr. HUBERT. Did he mention to you that he had been to the Western Union

that morning?

Mr. CLARDY. Yes, sir.

Mr. HUBERT. Did he say anything about where his car was?

Mr. CLARDY. Yes, sir.

Mr. HUBERT. Did he say anything about there being a dog in it?

Mr. CLARDY. Sir, I recall that he said there was some money in the car.

I--I don't recall him saying it in my presence, about the dog being in

it. I do recall that he talked later about some dogs that he had that

he thought so much of.

Mr. HUBERT. All right, now, a bit earlier when I asked you whether or

not there were any omissions from the documents, Exhibits Nos. 5061,

5062, and 5063, you indicated there was an omission concerning what had

been said to you by some people who had talked to you. I think that is

what the omission--it was something along that line. Do you recall what

that was now?

Mr. CLARDY. Well, I think some of the stuff that we have gone into

there that you have asked me as to some of the things that were said,

or on down the line that I don't--I don't recall any of the FBI agents

asking me who come up there and talked to him, whether they did or not,

I don't know.

Mr. HUBERT. Well, can you tell me what you had in mind a little while

ago in the deposition when you said, "Yes, this is all right, but there

has been omitted something," and I told you at that time, "Well, we'll

come back to it a bit later," and now, I am coming back to it. I was

wondering just what you had in mind when you stated that there had been

an omission?

Mr. CLARDY. I don't believe it is in that report that Secret Service

agent, Mr. Sorrels, came up shortly after we arrived and talked to Mr.

Ruby.

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