TESTIMONY OF DON RAY ARCHER

The testimony of Don Ray Archer was taken at 8:20 p.m., on March 25,

1964, in the office of the U.S. attorney, 301 Post Office Building,

Bryan and Ervay Streets, Dallas, Tex., by Mr. Leon D. Hubert, Jr.,

assistant counsel of the President's Commission.

Mr. HUBERT. This is the deposition of Don Ray Archer, isn't that

correct?

Mr. ARCHER. Yes, sir.

Mr. HUBERT. Mr. Archer, my name is Leon D. Hubert. I am a member

of the advisory staff of the general counsel on the President's

Commission under provisions of Executive Order 11130, dated November

29, 1963, and the joint resolution of Congress No. 137, and the rules

of procedure adopted by the President's Commission in conformance with

the Executive order and the joint resolution. I have been authorized

to take a sworn deposition from you, among others. I state to you now

that the general nature of the Commission's inquiry is to ascertain,

evaluate, and report upon the facts relevant to the assassination of

President Kennedy and subsequent violent death of Lee Harvey Oswald. In

particular as to you, Mr. Archer, the nature of the inquiry today is to

determine what facts you know about the death of Oswald and any other

pertinent facts you may know about the general inquiry.

Now, Mr. Archer, you appear today by virtue of a general request made

by J. Lee Rankin, general counsel of the staff of the President's

Commission to Chief Curry. Under the rules adopted by the Commission,

you are entitled to a 3-day written notice prior to the taking of this

deposition, but the rules adopted by the Commission also provide that

a witness may waive this 3-day written notice if he so wishes. Now, do

you desire to waive that notice?

Mr. ARCHER. I will waive.

Mr. HUBERT. All right. Will you stand and raise your right hand.

Mr. HUBERT. Do you solemnly swear that you will tell the truth, the

whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God?

Mr. ARCHER. I do.

Mr. HUBERT. Will you state your name?

Mr. ARCHER. Don Ray Archer.

Mr. HUBERT. And your last name is Archer?

Mr. ARCHER. Yes.

Mr. HUBERT. Your age, sir?

Mr. ARCHER. I am 31.

Mr. HUBERT. Where do you reside?

Mr. ARCHER. 2035 San Francisco, Dallas, Tex.

Mr. HUBERT. What is your occupation?

Mr. ARCHER. I am police officer for the city of Dallas.

Mr. HUBERT. How long have you been on the police force of the city of

Dallas?

Mr. ARCHER. Ten years, May 31.

Mr. HUBERT. What particular duty or function do you have with the

police department?

Mr. ARCHER. I am a detective assigned to auto theft bureau.

Mr. HUBERT. Who is your immediate superior?

Mr. ARCHER. My immediate superior would be Lieutenant Smart, and then

Capt. J. C. Nichols, who is the head of our bureau.

Mr. HUBERT. Did you have the same position and rank and duties and

occupation during the period of November 22 to 24, 1963?

Mr. ARCHER. Yes; I did.

Mr. HUBERT. Now, where were you stationed when you first came on duty

on November 24, 1963?

Mr. ARCHER. On November 24, I reported for duty at 7 a.m., at the auto

theft bureau, which is my normal procedure when I report for work.

Mr. HUBERT. Then did you go about performing your regular duties in the

auto theft bureau, or were you assigned extra and other duties?

Mr. ARCHER. Well, at the beginning of the morning I was performing my

regular duties and carrying out my assignments and making my general

investigations.

Mr. HUBERT. That is in connection with routine auto thefts?

Mr. ARCHER. Yes, sir.

Mr. HUBERT. Were you taken from that routine of duties?

Mr. ARCHER. Yes, sir.

Mr. HUBERT. By whom, and at what time?

Mr. ARCHER. As I recall, and as near as I can recall, and this is only

approximate, about 8:40 a.m., Lieutenant Smart came into our bureau

and advised us that Chief Stevenson had asked us to stand by to remain

in that bureau, to await further orders, which we did. And I continued

carrying on what work I could there in the office concerning my reports.

Mr. HUBERT. So that the first order you got was to remain where you

were, not move out, and stand by?

Mr. ARCHER. Not to leave, that's right, and to be there.

Mr. HUBERT. All right. What happened after that?

Mr. ARCHER. Well, as near as I can remember we did stay in the--in the

bureau, or at least I did until, oh, I would say approximately 10:50

a.m. And that is only an approximate time because I don't remember

looking and seeing the exact time.

Mr. HUBERT. Well, what happened at that time?

Mr. ARCHER. At that time, Lieutenant Smart came in and, of course, we

had been aware that the subject, Oswald, would probably be transferred

that day.

Mr. HUBERT. What made you aware of this?

Mr. ARCHER. Well, for one thing, just the press itself, and quite a

bit in the papers and all. We just had it in our minds that we would.

Actually, nobody told me specifically that he would be, but like I say,

it was in my mind. I just had that impression.

Mr. HUBERT. So, at approximately 10:50, you received orders from whom,

you said?

Mr. ARCHER. Lieutenant Smart.

Mr. HUBERT. To do what?

Mr. ARCHER. He told us to follow him and to go to the basement, which

we did. We left our office and walked to the elevators, got in the

elevator and then proceeded into the basement.

Mr. HUBERT. Which elevator did you use?

Mr. ARCHER. We used the interior elevator, of which there are two

moving from the basement to the fourth floor. It is generally inside

the building.

Mr. HUBERT. The public elevator? Not the jail elevator?

Mr. ARCHER. Oh, no, sir.

Mr. HUBERT. You were in uniform?

Mr. ARCHER. No, no, sir; I was in civilian clothes, much as I am right

now. White shirt, tie and suit.

Mr. HUBERT. You don't wear uniforms?

Mr. ARCHER. No, sir; I am a plainclothes officer.

Mr. HUBERT. Now, you referred to "we" indicating that there were

several of you there. Who were the others? Do you remember?

Mr. ARCHER. I couldn't name you all the officers, I know Detective

Clardy and Detective McMillon and Detective Dawson and Lieutenant Smart

and myself were on this. We rode down in the same elevator. That's all

I recall. There were other officers that eventually gathered in the

basement, riding down, that is the only ones that I recall.

Mr. HUBERT. Did that party move as a party as you left the elevator?

Mr. ARCHER. As a group.

Mr. HUBERT. That is what I mean. Where did you move to from the

elevator?

Mr. ARCHER. Well, after we got onto the--into the basement--the

elevator door was open--now, we got off and walked to in front of the

jail office and I believe Lieutenant Smart told us to standby there

for further orders. Then he walked away, at that particular time and

I stayed standing against the south wall, the south wall which was

opposite the jail office.

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