Mr. GRIFFIN. Now, why don't you just write in there "sparse."

Mr. NEWMAN. [Indicating].

Mr. GRIFFIN. Do you recall where the TV cameras were placed?

Mr. NEWMAN. Yes, sir.

Mr. GRIFFIN. Would you indicate on that where the TV cameras were?

Mr. NEWMAN. As I recall, there were three.

Mr. GRIFFIN. Now, when you came into the basement the first time, did

you see a TV camera over in this area here that I have pointed to

[indicating]?

Mr. NEWMAN. Not a large camera. There may have been a hand-held camera,

but no large camera.

Mr. GRIFFIN. What I am indicating on here, so the record will reflect,

I am pointing to the area roughly in front of the jail office door.

For anyone reading this, I will indicate also that this is an area in

which Assistant Chief Batchelor indicated that sometime, that he is not

sure of, in the early morning he saw a TV camera there, and he believes

he had it moved. Now, I take it you don't recall any equipment of any

sort being in this area in here, in the garage [indicating]?

Mr. NEWMAN. TV equipment?

Mr. GRIFFIN. Yes. In the entrance to the garage?

Mr. NEWMAN. No; I don't.

Mr. GRIFFIN. Now, is this a railing, incidentally [indicating]?

Mr. NEWMAN. This is a small rail right here [indicating].

Mr. GRIFFIN. All right. Let me write across here "rail." Now, from

where you were standing, were you able to see over that rail?

Mr. NEWMAN. Partially.

Mr. GRIFFIN. How high is that rail?

Mr. NEWMAN. It isn't over 3 feet.

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