Mr. HUBERT. "Before the shooting." Right?
Mr. LOWERY. Right.
Mr. HUBERT. I am encircling that language and connecting it with the
position marked "X." Now, can you give us any estimation of how long
before the shooting was the last time that you saw Harrison?
Mr. LOWERY. No, sir; I wouldn't make an attempt, because the time in
my estimation I found that they were so far off that I couldn't--I
just don't have any idea. It couldn't have been more than a couple of
minutes.
Mr. HUBERT. All right; you did not see him after that, though, did you?
Mr. LOWERY. I saw him after the shooting.
Mr. HUBERT. No; I mean after that position?
Mr. LOWERY. As far as I remember, no, sir; I don't.
Mr. HUBERT. Then you attribute your failure to see him to the fact that
the TV lights had been turned on after that?
Mr. LOWERY. Well, the TV lights were so bright. I don't remember seeing
Harrison, but I don't say that I was completely blinded by the TV
lights.
Mr. HUBERT. Did you see Ruby come up from the crowd?
Mr. LOWERY. Sir?
Mr. HUBERT. Did you see Ruby come out from the crowd?
Mr. LOWERY. The first time I saw Ruby he was lunging, and almost
instantaneously the shot was fired, and I couldn't--I couldn't say that
I saw him come from the crowd. I saw a blur, and about this time the
shot was fired, and there is Jack Ruby right in front of me.
Mr. HUBERT. What side of "Blackie" Harrison did Ruby come from with
relation to Harrison himself?