Mr. LOWERY. No, sir; I didn't.
Mr. HUBERT. That is incorrect?
Mr. LOWERY. I do not recall--no, I touched Ruby later, but not at this
particular time. This is the time where Ruby was disarmed and taken
into the jail office. I didn't touch him at all at that particular
time. There were several other officers around him. I couldn't even get
to him.
Mr. HUBERT. When did you touch him?
Mr. LOWERY. He was carried into the jail office by several officers,
and after coming into the jail office by myself, I held one of Jack
Ruby's legs while he was given a quick shakedown before he was taken
upstairs.
Mr. HUBERT. All right. Have you any other comments to make about that
Exhibit 5082?
Mr. LOWERY. I don't believe that there is any others on this one. Yes.
On Page 2, of this same exhibit--let's see, where could I start. Now,
would you like me to start in the middle of a sentence, or just read
the whole sentence even though it is several lines?
Mr. HUBERT. Perhaps you'd better read the whole sentence, I think it
will be clearer.
Mr. LOWERY. All right, quote "He stated this camera was never put
into operation, the cable was never connected and the blank cap was
never taken off. Lowery stated that the following--that following the
shooting, the action of the two cameramen who had pushed the camera
from the area was brought to the attention of Lt. R. E. Swain, and they
were taken to homicide and robbery bureau for questioning." unquote.
The facts are, are that the cameramen were not taken to homicide and
robbery bureau. I accompanied those men up on the third floor where
they were allowed to set up their long range camera, and I stayed with
those people for approximately an hour to an hour and a half until I
contacted Lieutenant Baker in the homicide division and told him the
reason that I was with those people, and he advised me to take their
names and addresses, business address and business phone, and home
phone number, and that it wouldn't be necessary to stay with them any
longer. I took this information and turned it in to Lieutenant Baker
and released the cameramen.
Mr. HUBERT. Anything else you wish to say about it?
Mr. LOWERY. I don't believe there is any other.
Mr. HUBERT. 5082. Anything other about 5082?
Mr. LOWERY. No, that is--nothing further.
Mr. HUBERT. As to Exhibit 5083, I ask you if it is correct, do you have
any changes or suggestions, or comments to make about it?
Mr. LOWERY. On page 1, paragraph 2--let's see, "The contingent from
the juvenile bureau consisted of Captain Martin, Lt. George Butler,
Detective W. J. Cutchshaw, Detective L. B. Miller, Detective Charles
Goolsby, Patrolman W. J. Harrison and myself, Lowery."
The facts are that Captain Martin, Lt. George Butler, Detective W. J.
Cutchshaw, Detective L. B. Miller, Detective Charles Goolsby went from
the third--juvenile bureau, on the third floor, room 314, city hall,
down the elevator to the basement of the city hall. As we came off
the elevator we met Patrolman W. J. Harrison coming up the hall from
the police locker room, and he accompanied us to the location in the
basement where Oswald was shot.
Mr. HUBERT. When you say, "city hall," you mean the police department
building, not the municipal building?
Mr. LOWERY. No, sir. Police and courts building.
Mr. HUBERT. All right, any further comments about Exhibit 5083?
Mr. LOWERY. Now, I have one change here.
Mr. HUBERT. On what page?
Mr. LOWERY. On page 2, paragraph 3. Now, this is the only thing, the
only change is--I don't know whether it is necessary for me to read the
whole thing--is the TV station WPAB. In this report it says, "WPAB".