Mr. HUBERT. But he didn't get the man and confront you with him?
Mr. HOLLY. No.
Mr. HUBERT. Was this man that you saw a youngish man or middle age or
what?
Mr. HOLLY. I would say he was in his thirties, about 37 years old or 36
years old.
Mr. HUBERT. Was he a little husky?
Mr. HOLLY. He was about 165 or 170, about 5'8" or 9", and blue eyes and
bald headed.
Mr. HUBERT. He had on a cap?
Mr. HOLLY. Had a cap on, and didn't wear any glasses.
Mr. HUBERT. He had on a hat?
Mr. HOLLY. Had a cap on, and didn't wear any glasses.
Mr. HUBERT. So, the way I see it, among those pictures that Captain
Solomon showed you, you picked out the man you thought was the man?
Mr. HOLLY. I still think it was the same man that Captain Solomon--he
didn't tell me prior, but after I picked him out, he said that is the
only man it could have been, because he was down in the basement, and
the way I described it, it fitted the description I had given. He did
explain after it was over that the photographs were about 3 years old.
Mr. HUBERT. Now, I think that you passed on the information that this
reserve officer had given you to someone, did you not?
Mr. HOLLY. How was that?
Mr. HUBERT. You reported to someone that a reserve officer had told you?
Mr. HOLLY. Yes; I did.
Mr. HUBERT. Who did you report it to?
Mr. HOLLY. I reported it to the CID officer, I guess it was, down on
the first or second floor of the city hall.
Mr. HUBERT. Do you remember who it was?
Mr. HOLLY. No; it was lieutenant someone, through one of the detectives.
Mr. HUBERT. Which detective was that?
Mr. HOLLY. Detective Eberhardt. I gave the information to one of the
stenographers up in burglary and theft division, and I typed it out and
sent it on down to the lieutenant. Offhand, I don't recall his name. It
was one of the investigators on the case.
Mr. HUBERT. Were you contacted to make a statement about your
activities?
Mr. HOLLY. The subject, how it come up, one of the detectives was out
at the house, and the subject came up that they were trying to find out
how in the world Ruby ever got down in the basement. And I said, "Well,
my Lord, one of the reserves let him in."
Mr. HUBERT. When was that?
Mr. HOLLY. I would say that was on about a Wednesday or Thursday after
the accident. And he said, "Will you make a statement?" And I said, "I
will be glad to."
Mr. HUBERT. Did you make a written statement, or was it just oral?
Mr. HOLLY. Oral statement and I signed.
Mr. HUBERT. Did they write it up in the form of an interview, or did he
write it for your signature as a letter to the chief?
Mr. HOLLY. A letter to the--it went through--I don't know what
procedure it did go through. I just don't know the hand it went into.
Mr. HUBERT. For the purpose of identification, we will see if we can
determine whether the written reports you have just been speaking of
is one of these, one that I have here. And also in order to get the
contents of these two reports into the record, I am going to identify
them by marking the first one as "Dallas, Tex., March 26, 1964, Exhibit
No. 5109, Deposition of H. B. Holly, Jr.," and I am signing my name on
the margin. I notice that it has a second page with two lines, and I am
putting my initials in the lower right-hand corner.
The other document is a document consisting of five pages, being an
interview, or the report of an interview by two FBI agents, Mr. Dallman
and Mr. Quigley. I am marking that as "Dallas, Tex., March 26, 1964,
Exhibit No. 5110, Deposition of H. B. Holly, Jr." I am signing my name
on the first page and putting my initials on the second, third, fourth,
and fifth pages. I would like you, Mr. Holly, if you will, please to
read all these, and I want to ask you about the correctness of each
one. So I would like you to read it carefully and after you have done
so, I will ask you to make any comments you want as to the correctness,
make any changes you want, if it is not correct, because neither of
these are your own statements. This is what other people said you said.
Then I want to find out, too, if there is another report that you,
yourself, signed, because they don't purport to be signed by you. So,
would you do that, please?