Mr. CROY. Where Tippit was killed, you mean?
Mr. GRIFFIN. This area that you went to where Tippit was?
Mr. CROY. Well, the street where he was killed was a residential area.
The street immediately south of that, Jefferson, is business.
Mr. GRIFFIN. I see. Now, I am just referring to the street you found
him on. When you got there, was Tippit's car there?
Mr. CROY. Yes.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Was Tippit there?
Mr. CROY. They were loading him in the ambulance.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Were other officers on the scene?
Mr. CROY. None that I saw.
Mr. GRIFFIN. What did you do when you got there?
Mr. CROY. Got me a witness.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Who did you get ahold of?
Mr. CROY. It was a woman standing across the street from me. I don't
recall her name. She gave me her name at that time.
Mr. GRIFFIN. What did she tell you?
Mr. CROY. She told me that she saw Tippit get out of the car, and I
don't recall, I think she said he stepped back a couple of foot and
shot him and then ran. She was pretty hysterical at that particular
time.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Did she tell you where she first saw Oswald?
Mr. CROY. I don't recall whether she did or not. There was, as I
recall, there was 2 people who saw it. No; 3. A man in a, taxicab
driver. However, she was the main eyewitness, as far as I could make
out. She saw the actual shooting.
Mr. GRIFFIN. How long did you talk with her?
Mr. CROY. Oh, a good 5 or 10 minutes.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Were there any other officers there with you when you were
talking with her?
Mr. CROY. Yes; and no. I talked to her, and then they talked to her,
and then I talked to her, and just after I located a witness, the squad
did get there.
Mr. GRIFFIN. This conversation all took place near the scene of the
Tippit killing?
Mr. CROY. Leaning up against his car.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Now, as you and the other officers talked with her, did
she tell you where she was that she first saw Oswald?
Mr. CROY. I don't recall whether she did or not. She was pretty
hysterical and not much that she said made too much sense.
Mr. GRIFFIN. What was she saying?
Mr. CROY. She talked very incoherent at that particular time.
Mr. GRIFFIN. What information were you able to get out of her at that
time?
Mr. CROY. The only information I could get out of her was the
description of what Oswald had on, and him shooting him.
Mr. GRIFFIN. What did she tell you at that time that he had on?
Mr. CROY. I don't recall what he had on.
Mr. GRIFFIN. What did she tell you?
Mr. CROY. I don't recall what it was. She just gave a description there.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Did you file any report of your activities this day?
Mr. CROY. No.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Do you remember the names of the other officers who were
there with you when you were interviewing this woman?
Mr. CROY. No; I know them on sight. They all work in Oak Cliff and I
don't know the names. I just know when I see them driving down the
street.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Did you talk with the taxi driver?
Mr. CROY. Yes; I did. I talked to the taxi driver.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Now, did you talk with him on the scene of the crime?
Mr. CROY. Yes.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Do you remember what his name was?
Mr. CROY. No; I didn't get his name. There was a private detective
agency. There was a report that a cabdriver had picked up Tippit's gun
and had left, presumably. They don't know whether he was the one that
had shot Tippit, or whether the man, I think it was he, brought someone
out there, something. Anyway, he saw it and he picked up Tippit's gun
and attempted to give chase or something like that.
Mr. GRIFFIN. There was a detective who was an eyewitness?
Mr. CROY. No; he brought the taxi driver back to the scene.
Mr. GRIFFIN. But the taxicab driver was an eyewitness?
Mr. CROY. As far as I know.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Did you talk to the taxicab driver?
Mr. CROY. No; I took Tippit's gun and several other officers came up,
and I turned him over to them and they questioned him.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Now, who was the third eyewitness that you say you talked
with there?
Mr. CROY. I believe it was a man that was standing there in the yard.
He said he saw Oswald just walk up the street.
Mr. GRIFFIN. What direction did he say?
Mr. CROY. He didn't say.
Mr. GRIFFIN. But he saw Oswald walking some blocks to where he got to
before he got to Tippit's car?
Mr. CROY. Yes.
Mr. GRIFFIN. What did he tell you that he saw Oswald do walking up the
street?
Mr. CROY. He just said he saw him walking up the street, and this other
lady said that, I believe it was, that Tippit had stopped him and
called him over to the car, and he came around to the driver's side,
because Tippit was by himself.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Oswald came around?
Mr. CROY. To the driver's side of the car.
Mr. GRIFFIN. This is the lady that said that?
Mr. CROY. The lady said that, and she said, I think she said, he stuck
his head in the car and they talked, and he stepped back a couple or
3 feet, and Tippit opened the door to get out, and when he got out,
Oswald pulled the pistol out and shot him.
Mr. GRIFFIN. This is a lady? The man or the lady that said this?
Mr. CROY. The lady.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Now, what did the man who was walking, who saw Oswald
walking up the street, tell you?
Mr. CROY. He just said he saw him walking up the street just prior to
the shooting.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Did he say he saw him arrive at the car?
Mr. CROY. No; I turned him over to some other officers and they talked
to him.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Were you able to determine from them what direction he saw
Oswald walking?
Mr. CROY. No.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Do you recall this man's name?
Mr. CROY. No; I found the witness and took him to the other officers.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Now, after the Tippit--how long did you remain at the
scene of the Tippit killing?
Mr. CROY. Oh, I would say a good 30 minutes. Thirty or forty minutes,
something like that.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Then where did you go?
Mr. CROY. Home. I went to eat.
Mr. GRIFFIN. I take it, at some restaurant or something?
Mr. CROY. Yes.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Did you remain home the rest of the day?
Mr. CROY. Yes.