Captain TALBERT. Oh, more than that. Crammed in there. Jammed----

Mr. HUBERT. Touching each other?

Captain TALBERT. Yes, sir.

Mr. HUBERT. And about three ranks back toward Main Street?

Captain TALBERT. That is my impression, yes, sir, about three ranks

back.

Mr. HUBERT. Describe "Area B," then?

Captain TALBERT. And "Area B," you had a railing as indicated here by a

dotted line. In front of that railing you had at least two or--probably

three ranks of people all the way down to the turnoff area, which is

the beginning of "Area C." In the center of "Area D," there were two

fixed cameras.

Mr. HUBERT. Television cameras?

Captain TALBERT. Television cameras, yes, sir. The others were movie or

still cameras and other cameramen, or strictly reporters, and in "Area

C," we had a fairly dense group in the immediate Main Street side, and

two to three ranks over towards the Commerce Street side dividing it in

half.

Now, immediately after Lieutenant Pierce informed me of the change in

plans, we had to remove the people from the ramps so that he could

get out on the Main Street side, and they immediately closed back up,

and as he cleared the parking area to enter the ramp, a plain white

or light-colored car pulled onto it, and pulled up behind the armored

car on the Commerce Street side, and another plain light-colored car

attempted to pull up behind him, but he wasn't up far enough, so, we

had to holler at them to pull up a little further, which he did. That

car was attempting to back in, and had to cut to the left in order to

back up the vehicle--go to the right to get back into the jail-office

entrance. That was my understanding of his efforts to do, and the news

media was crowding in on him, so, that there was danger of him running

over them with his vehicle, should it move. So, I was by the left front

fender of that vehicle, Chief Batchelor was to my right, Captain O.

A. Jones to my left and we were--and one or two--perhaps more reserve

officers were there, too, pushing the news media back to let that car

have room to maneuver.

Mr. HUBERT. I am going to mark on the map an area which I am marking

auto and----

Captain TALBERT. All right, sir.

Mr. HUBERT. With the understanding that the front of it indicated by an

arrow is pointed toward Commerce Street?

Captain TALBERT. All right, sir.

Mr. HUBERT. All right. Now, would you mark the circle where you were

about the time of the event you have just described?

Captain TALBERT. This auto is angled in here.

Mr. HUBERT. Maybe we had better angle it then.

Captain TALBERT. Would you like that black pen?

Mr. HUBERT. You do it. We, are changing the blue-pen marking because

Captain Talbert indicates that the automobile was on an angle, and he

is now marking it with the black pen. Would you put the word "auto," in

that, please. Now, draw a circle and indicate where you were standing.

Captain TALBERT. I was standing by the left front fender of the car, as

I previously said.

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