Captain JONES. I mean it came out of the basement area and headed up
toward Main Street which ordinarily is the down ramp and you go out the
ramp going up Commerce Street. There was a car out there, and in light
of the investigation I know the circumstances now, but at that time
I couldn't tell you about that one which did go out. Chief Stevenson
said--came to me just before or after the car pulled out and said--said
there was a change in plans, "We are going to put two cars in the
driveway and transfer him in a car." Almost immediately some cars
started up back in this area [indicating].
Mr. HUBERT. When you say "this area," that is the basement?
Captain JONES. All right, the parking area of the basement, east of
the driveway, and I am very sure one car that I saw pull up and go
up the Commerce Street ramp from a ways, and I think I am aware of a
second car pulling up behind. Now, the second car was having a little
difficulty backing down into position to where it would--where it
should go, so that when I stepped forward and became aware of quite a
mass of people, I couldn't tell you how many in this area "B".
Mr. HUBERT. And you were standing in the west side of the area?
Captain JONES. Yes, sir; the west side of area B, but the east side of
the ramp. I was somewhere in there, and I attempted to push the people
back, and I'm afraid I may have delayed the driver by pushing these
people back, but along about that time someone shouts, "Here he comes."
Mr. HUBERT. Would you just make a little circle as to where
approximately you were?
Captain JONES. I think--I think--I think I was somewhere right in this
area here [indicating].
Mr. HUBERT. Just put a circle.
Captain JONES. Well, I don't know. That is as close as I can put it.
Mr. HUBERT. You have drawn a circle, and I'm just going to put here, as
you said, that it was somewhere around in here, around in the circle
that you have drawn and I am marking that "approximate position of
Capt. O. A. Jones at the time that Jones heard someone say 'Here he
comes,'" is that correct, sir?
Captain JONES. Yes, sir.
Mr. HUBERT. Now, actually, there was an automobile, as you say, backing
up towards east, right?