CHAPTER IX.

QUESTIONED J. O’KANE IN DAYTON--HE BEAT A RETREAT--HE REPLIED

IN CRAWFORDSVILLE--THREE RESURRECTIONS, NATIONAL, MORAL, AND

IMMORTAL--CONVERSATION IN WEST LEBANON--EVERLASTING, FOREVER--KINGDOM

OF GOD--SIN, ERROR, SUFFERING NOT ENDLESS--IN SOUTHERN INDIANA--WHY

LIVE A CHRISTIAN LIFE--BIGOTRY IN BRECKENRIDGE--DISCUSSION WITH

MR. DICKERSON--CALVINISM--ARMINIANISM--UNIVERSALISM--DEBATE IN

CHAMBERSBURG.

When in Dayton on one occasion to fill an appointment, I heard J.

O’Kane preach an excellent sermon--it was all Universalism. His

subjects were the Mosaic and Christian covenants. Moses was the head of

the first, and Christ the head of the second covenant; the blessings of

the first were _temporal_, and were designed only for the _Jews_; the

blessings of the second were _spiritual_, including the _forgiveness

of sin_ and _life everlasting_, and were designed for _all nations_.

The whole Jewish nation was blessed temporally, and all nations,

families and kindred would be blessed spiritually. He dwelt long and

emphatically on these points--proved and illustrated them in a very

satisfactory manner. My friends evidently thought that was pretty good

Universalism, as it certainly was. But I was satisfied that it was

all a _blind_, and I resolved to quiz him a little. As soon as he was

through, I asked the privilege to propound a few questions, and stated

I should be much pleased if he would answer them.

“Ask as many questions as you please, and I shall be sure to answer

them,” said he, in not a very agreeable tone.

“I understood you to say that the blessings of the Christian covenant

are for all mankind, and that all nations, families and kindreds of the

earth would surely participate in those blessings. Did I understand

you correctly?”

“Yes, sir.”

“I also understood you, that the blessings of said covenant are

spiritual--the forgiveness of sin and life everlasting. Did I

understand you correctly?”

“You did.”

“Once more. Do you believe that all nations, families and kindreds will

be blessed by having their sins forgiven, and with life everlasting?”

“Suppose I don’t,” said he, in an angry tone.

“But why equivocate? You have just said you did believe this.”

“You don’t know what I said.”

Mr. O’Kane was in a pretty tight place, for it was well known, that

he was a staunch advocate of eternal woe. Why he delivered such a

discourse was best known to himself. Perhaps he hoped to catch some of

our brethren by pretending to be with them in faith.

Subsequently, he replied to a discourse I delivered in Crawfordsville,

from these words: “Marvel not at this; for the hour is coming in the

which all that are in their graves shall hear his voice, and they shall

come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life;

and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.” John

v. 28, 29. There are, I remarked, three distinct resurrections spoken

of in the Bible--a temporal, a moral, and an immortal resurrection.

When the Bible speaks of a resurrection, we must learn from the context

of the passage, which of those resurrections is intended. I will

briefly notice some passages where these three resurrections are spoken

of.

In Ezekiel, thirty-seventh chapter, the prophet is writing of the

return of the Jews to Palestine from Babylon, where they had been

enslaved for seventy years. The chapter is headed--“The resurrection

of dry bones.” I will cite the whole passage: “The hand of the Lord

was upon me, and carried me out in the spirit of the Lord, and set me

down in the valley which was full of bones, and caused me to pass by

them round about; and, behold, there were very many in the open valley;

and, lo, they were very dry. And he said unto me, Son of man, can these

bones live? And I answered, O Lord God, thou knowest. Again he said

unto me, Prophesy upon these bones, and say unto them, O ye dry bones,

hear the word of the Lord. Thus saith the Lord God unto these bones:

Behold, I will cause breath to enter into you, and ye shall live; and I

will lay sinews upon you, and will bring up flesh upon you, and cover

you with skin, and put breath in you, and ye shall live; and ye shall

know that I am the Lord. So I prophesied as I was commanded; and as I

prophesied, there was a noise, and behold a shaking, and the bones came

together, bone to his bone. And when I beheld, lo, the sinews and the

flesh came up upon them, and the skin covered them above; but there

was no breath in them. Then said he unto me, Prophesy unto the wind,

prophesy, Son of man, and say unto the wind, Thus saith the Lord God:

Come from the four winds, O breath, and breathe upon these slain, that

they may live. So I prophesied as he commanded me, and the breath came

into them, and they lived, and stood up upon their feet, an exceeding

great army.” Ezek. xxxvii. 1-10. Now mark the explanations: “Then he

said unto me, Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel;

behold, they say, Our bones are dried, and our hope is lost: we are cut

off for our parts. Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith

the Lord God: Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and bring

you into the land of Israel. And ye shall know that I am the Lord,

when I have opened your graves, O my people, and brought you up out

of your graves. And I shall put my spirit in you, and ye shall live,

and I shall place you in your own land; then shall ye know that I the

Lord have spoken it, and performed it, saith the Lord.” Ezek. xxxvii.

11-14. This was a temporal resurrection, and included also a moral

resurrection. It was the return of “the whole house of Israel” to “the

land of Israel from Babylon.” When in Babylon, they were said to be in

their _graves_, their _hope was lost_, but they were to come up out of

the graves, and be restored to their beloved country.

The same events are also predicted in Daniel xii. 2. “And many of them

that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting

life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.” The connection shows

this to be the same kind of a resurrection spoken of in Ezekiel. That

all this was to take place within a few years, is evident from the

following consideration: 1. The previous verse reads thus: “And at

that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for

the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such

as never was since there was a nation even to that same time; and at

that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found

written in the book.” Dan. xii. 1. This prince Michael was a ruler in

Persia, while the Jews were in Babylon. He is spoken of in two other

places in that book. “But the prince of the kingdom of Persia withstood

me one and twenty days; but, lo, Michael, one of the chief princes,

came to help me; and I remained there with the kings of Persia. But I

will show thee that which is noted in the scripture of truth; and there

is none that holdeth with me in these things, but Michael your prince.”

Dan. x. 13, 21. It is clear from these quotations, that Michael was a

prince of Persia, and that he was living when the Jews were in Babylon.

Mark also, that the resurrection, there spoken of, was to occur in

Michael’s lifetime, when Michael “would stand up,” and consequently

it must have taken place long ago. 2. The question was asked, (verse

6) “How long shall it be to the end of these wonders?” and the answer

given was, “It shall be for a time, times and half a time,” (verse 7.)

In verse 12, the period intended by these “times” is stated to be “one

thousand three hundred and thirty-five days,” making a little more

than four years. “Time,” singular, means one year, “times,” plural,

three years, “half a time,” six month. The resurrection, then, referred

to, was to take place between four and five years from the time the

prophet saw the vision--another evidence that this resurrection was

realized in the return of the Jews to Palestine from the land of their

captivity. 3. Daniel was to live to witness the transpiring of this

event. “Go thy way,” said the angel to Daniel, “till the end be; for

thou shalt rest, and stand in thy lot at the end of these days.” (Verse

13.) It then seems certain, that this resurrection was to take place

within a few years after Daniel had a vision of it. Two men, at least,

then existing, were to live to witness the event--Michael, a prince of

Persia, and Daniel, a prophet of the Lord, and to behold it they had

to live only about four years and a half longer. The nation was raised

from its grave, from the dust of the earth, and those who were loyal

through the dark night of bondage, returned to the land of promise with

glory and honor; but those who were traitors during the times that

tried men’s souls, returned with shame and contempt.

The Bible also reveals an immortal resurrection. Says Jesus, whose

mission it was to bring life and immortality to light, “In the

resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are

as the angels of God in heaven.... God is not the God of the dead,

but of the living, for all--the dead--live unto him.” Matt. xxii. 30,

32. This is not a physical, temporal, or moral resurrection, merely,

but a resurrection to eternal life, and a blissful immortality. The

apostle Paul (1 Cor. xv.) dwells long and emphatically on this glorious

resurrection. “As in Adam,” says he, “all die, even so in Christ

shall all be made alive.... It is sown in corruption, it is raised in

incorruption; it is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory; it is

sown in weakness, it is raised in power; it is sown a natural body,

it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is

a spiritual body.” “For this corruptible must put on incorruption,

and this mortal must put on immortality. So when this corruptible

shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on

immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written,

Death is swallowed up in victory. O death, where is thy sting? O grave,

where is thy victory? The sting of death is sin; and the strength of

sin is the law. But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory

through our Lord Jesus Christ.” 1 Cor. xv. 22, 43, 44, 53-57.

The terms in these passages clearly indicate, that the immortal

resurrection is the subject of discourse; and that all mankind are

interested in it. It is not a resurrection from the grave, or from the

dust of the earth, for the immortal spirit which now tabernacles in the

flesh, never dies, except morally, never descends to the grave or dust,

except figuratively, but as the wise man says, “Dust shall return to

the earth as it was; and the _spirit_ shall return unto God that gave

it.” Eccles. xii. 7. The body only dies, it returns to the dust--the

spirit never; it returns to God.

Hence my text must refer to some other kind of a resurrection, for it

speaks of coming up out of graves, and the connection makes it certain

that a _moral_ resurrection is intended. Immediately preceding the

text, Jesus says, “As the Father raiseth up the dead and quickeneth

them; even so, the Son quickeneth whom he will.” There is here a

comparison between what God was doing, and what Christ was doing.

God was raising the dead from mortality to immortality, and Jesus

was raising the morally dead and quickening them by his spirit. He

continues to speak of the moral resurrection he was then effecting:

“Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth

on him that sent me, _hath_ everlasting life, and shall not come into

condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.” Those whom Christ

had quickened by the truth were in possession of “everlasting life,”

had actually “passed from death to life”--of course, no other than

a moral resurrection is intended. He continues: “Verily, I say unto

you, The hour is coming, and NOW IS, when the dead shall hear the

voice of the Son of God; and they that hear shall live.” Sinners, the

morally dead, were then hearing his voice and coming forth to life.

This is NOW going on, said Jesus. Then he adds: “Marvel not at this:

for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall

hear his voice, and they shall come forth; they that have done good,

unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the

resurrection of damnation.” The connection decides that Jesus was

speaking of the moral resurrection he was then effecting among the lost

sheep of the house of Israel. During Christ’s ministry the gospel was

proclaimed only to the Jews, and they only came forth and were blessed

by its quickening power; but soon the gospel was to be preached to

“all nations,” “to every creature.” Said Jesus to the disciples, just

before he returned to God, “Go ye into all the world and preach the

gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be

saved, but he that believeth not shall be damned.” Mark xvi. 15, 16.

This is the same subject spoken of in my text. When the disciples went

into the world in obedience to their master, they found mankind dead

in trespasses and sins, buried in the graves of moral degradation,

even in the dust of the earth. They preached the gospel to the dead

nations--some who heard it, came forth to life, to salvation, entered

the kingdom of God, which is righteousness, joy and peace in the holy

spirit. Others, who heard it, came forth to condemnation, and this

is explained thus: “He that believeth not shall be damned;” “He that

doubteth IS damned;” “HAVING damnation because they cast off their

first faith;” “He that believeth not is condemned ALREADY.” Similar

results have followed the proclamation of the truth in all ages and

climes. Let the truth be proclaimed fully and plainly in an ignorant

and vicious community, and some with joy will receive it, and partake

of its blessedness; others will rise up in opposition to it, condemn

it, and wax worse and worse.

This was the substance of the discourse, but much more was said in

defense of the various points here briefly stated. Mr. O’Kane replied,

but I have room for only one of his criticisms.

“The speaker said, that in the immortal resurrection, the dead are

not said to be raised from the _graves_, and hence in John v. 28, 29,

Christ does not speak of such a resurrection, for he there tells us,

that the dead shall be raised from the graves. Now, it happens, that

in the very chapter the gentleman informs us teaches the immortal

resurrection, the apostle Paul does teach that the dead on that

occasion will be raised from the _grave_. ‘So,’ says he, ‘when this

corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have

put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is

written, Death is swallowed up in victory. O death, where is thy sting?

O _grave_, where is thy victory?’ Now which is correct, Mr. Manford or

the apostle Paul, for they contradict each other.”

I replied, Mr. O’Kane has my thanks for pointing out what he deems

an error in my discourse. The word _graves_ in John v. 28, is from

_muemeia_, which signifies grave, the receptacle of dead bodies, but

the word _grave_ in Corinthians, is from _hades_, which means, not

the grave, but the state of the dead. The meaning of the two terms

are very different. One signifying the _place_ where dead bodies are

deposited, but the other, the state of the dead. Now the body is not

buried in _hades_, but it is buried in _muemeia_, and at the immortal

resurrection the dead come not from _muemeia_, but from _hades_, the

state of death. My remark then was strictly correct, that at the

immortal resurrection nothing is said about the dead being raised from

the grave, _muemeia_. The state of the dead is designated by _hades_,

and that state or condition may continue but a moment. The term has no

reference to time or place, but merely to death. When a person dies,

his condition is represented by _hades_, and when the spirit returns

to God, it is delivered from _hades_, meaning the state of death. When

the spirit ascends to God, it can exclaim, “Death is swallowed up in

victory. O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?

Thanks be to God who giveth us the victory.” “Victory, victory,

victory!” they exclaim, as they burst the shackles of _hades_, or

the state of the dead, and join the immortal band in the land of the

blessed.

I delivered two discourses in West Lebanon, and spent most of one

day in conversation with Mr. Cooper, a Methodist minister. Said

Mr. Cooper, “You say, forever and everlasting in the Bible signify

limited duration. The Bible speaks of the ‘everlasting God,’ and the

‘everlasting life’ of the saints. Now, according to your definition of

these words, God will exist only for a limited period, and the redeemed

in heaven will exist only for a limited period. Your definition

dethrones God, and blots out heaven.”

“Not so fast, my friend. True, the primary meaning of those words

is duration, indefinite duration, but how long cannot be determined

by the words, but by the subjects of discourse. When the Bible

speaks of the ‘everlasting hills,’ ‘everlasting priesthood of Aaron,’

‘the everlasting possession’ of Judea by the Jews, ‘the everlasting

doors’ of the temple, ‘the servant serving his master forever,’ you

readily admit that those words in those places mean limited time. You

admit this, because the subjects of discourse are limited in their

duration. But when those words are applied to God, and man’s immortal

inheritance, they signify unlimited duration, because of the subjects

to which they are applied. But why should everlasting and forever, when

applied to punishment, bear the meaning they do when related to God and

immortal life, rather than the signification they bear when applied to

the priesthood, the hills, or the temple?”

“I admit, that when those words are applied to man in _this world_,

they signify limited time, but when the Bible speaks of man being

punished forever, and suffering everlasting punishment in the _immortal

world_, they must mean the same they do when it speaks of the

everlasting blessedness of the saints in heaven, and joys forevermore

at God’s right hand. Take, for instance, the words of Christ, ‘These

shall go away into everlasting punishment, but the righteous into life

eternal.’ Now this life and this punishment pertain to the immortal

world, and one will continue as long as the other.”

“But it is by no means certain, that Jesus refers to heaven or hell

beyond the grave. The connection clearly shows, that Christ had

reference to the blessedness of the subjects of the gospel kingdom,

and the wretchedness of those out of that kingdom, out of the ark of

safety. In the connection of the passage, he says, ‘Come ye blessed of

my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation

of the world.’ The life spoken of in your text is the life, the

blessedness of this kingdom, and the New Testament certainly teaches,

that the kingdom is established in this world. When John commenced

his ministry he said, ‘Repent, for the kingdom of God is at hand.’

When Jesus began his work, he repeated what John had said before him,

‘Repent, for the kingdom of God is at hand.’ Soon after this Jesus

said, ‘If I cast out devils by the spirit of God, then the kingdom of

God is come unto you.’ Again said Jesus, ‘The law and the prophets

were until John; since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and

every man presseth into it.’ Near the close of our Lord’s ministry the

Pharisees inquired of him when the kingdom would come, which he and

John sometime before said was at hand. Now, observe his reply: ‘Neither

shall ye say, lo here, or lo there, for behold the kingdom of God is

within you,’ or about, or among you, as some, and very correctly,

translate the passage. The apostle Paul defines this kingdom thus: ‘The

kingdom of God is not meat and drink, but righteousness, joy and peace

in the holy spirit.’ These citations inform us where and what this

kingdom is. It is the kingdom of truth and righteousness, that Jesus

built up in this world eighteen hundred years ago. It is called the

kingdom of God because its principles are all divine; because the Son

of God is its king, and to distinguish it from the political kingdoms

of earth. In this world there are three kingdoms, and three lifes

corresponding with those kingdoms: 1st, The kingdom of nature; and the

life corresponding with it is physical life; 2d, The civil kingdom; and

the life corresponding with it is political, or civil life; 3d, The

kingdom of God, and its life is spiritual life. You perceive, then,

that in the passage you cite, Jesus refers not to heaven or hell beyond

the grave, but to the blessedness of that kingdom he labored to build

up in this world. When the New Testament speaks of the immortal world,

and heavenly blessedness, it employs different terms. When Jesus

speaks on those sublime themes, he says, ‘In the resurrection they

neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God

in heaven;’ and the apostle Peter calls immortality ‘An inheritance,

undefiled, and fadeth not away;’ and the apostle Paul says, ‘This

mortal shall put on immortality, and as we bear the image of the earthy

we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.’ Remember then, that

a future state of joy or sorrow was not the theme of Jesus on this

occasion.”

“But, sin, according to the Bible, will continue as long as virtue,

misery as long as happiness, death as long as life, and therefore

forever and everlasting when applied to one class must mean as long as

when applied to the other class.”

But my friend, are you sure, that sin, error, misery, and death, will

continue as long as virtue, truth, happiness, and life? I take it, that

nothing is immortal save what harmonizes with the divine character.

For a wise purpose, things may have a temporary existence, that are

antagonistic to God’s character. They may answer some useful end in the

economy of the universe; but when that end shall be gained, they will

disappear. The earthquake rends the earth, the lightnings flash, the

storm howls, the rain falls, for useful purposes, and those attained,

they cease; and their temporary existence, as they result in immense

good, is reconcilable with infinite goodness. But an everlasting

earthquake from pole to pole, eternal lightning, blowing and raining,

would be antagonistic to infinite wisdom and goodness. So, moral storms

and earthquakes answer a useful purpose in this world, and when that

end shall be realized, they will cease. But the existence of sin and

wrong eternally would conflict more with the wisdom and goodness of

God, than everlasting temporal evils, as the former blast the soul,

while the latter only blast the body. As earthquakes are less frequent

than they were in the past ages, and now seldom do much harm, and

will probably continue to diminish, and finally cease to rend the

earth, so moral evil is slowly losing its sway, and its strength will

doubtless continue to grow less and less, till righteousness shall

cover the earth as the waters cover the deep. By beautiful analogies

we are taught in the Bible, that all sin and wrong will end. “And it

shall come to pass, that he that is left in Zion, and he that remaineth

in Jerusalem, shall be called holy, even every one that is written

among the living in Jerusalem: when the Lord shall have washed away

the filth of the daughters of Zion, and shall have purged the blood of

Jerusalem from the midst thereof by the spirit of judgment, and by the

spirit of burning. And the Lord will create upon every dwelling place

of mount Zion, and upon her assemblies, a cloud and smoke by day, and

the shining of a flaming fire by night: for upon all the glory shall

be a defense.” Isa. iv. 3-5. “The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb,

and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young

lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them.

And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down

together; and the lion shall eat straw like the ox. And the sucking

child shall play on the hole of the asp, and the weaned child shall put

his hand on the cockatrice’ den. They shall not hurt nor destroy in

all my holy mountain: for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of

the Lord, as the waters cover the sea.” Isa. xi. 6-9. “For my thoughts

are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the Lord.

For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher

than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts. For as the rain

cometh down, and the snow from heaven, and returneth not thither, but

watereth the earth, and maketh it bring forth and bud, that it may give

seed to the sower, and bread to the eater: so shall my word be that

goeth forth out of my mouth; it shall not return unto me void, but it

shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing

whereto I sent it. For ye shall go out with joy, and be led forth with

peace; the mountains and the hills shall break forth before you into

singing, and all the trees of the field shall clap their hands. Instead

of the thorn shall come up the fir tree, and instead of the briar shall

come up the myrtle tree; and it shall be to the Lord for a name, for an

everlasting sign that shall not be cut off.” Isa. lv. 8-13. These are

elegant passages, perfect word-painting, and you see they teach the end

of all wrong, and the universal reign of truth and all righteousness.

About this time I made a long journey south--down the Wabash river to

Terre Haute, thence to Indianapolis, Richmond, Madison, and the Green

River region, in Kentucky. The distance to and from was nine hundred

miles, was absent three months, and delivered seventy-three sermons.

The whole journey was performed by my favorite mode of locomotion--on

horseback. I spoke in many places where the faith I advocated had

not before been publicly defended, and, of course, met with much

opposition. In Portland, a preacher in the midst of my sermon said,

“That is a lie!” and left the house in a great rage. “Stop!” said I,

“my friend, and sustain, if you can, your charge. I will yield the

floor.” “I will have nothing to do with you; and I warn you to flee

from the wrath to come.” In Boston, near Richmond, an old lady called

aloud for eggs with which to shower me. But none were furnished. In

Perrysville, an old toper went staggering out of the house, muttering,

“It’s good to live by, but it’s not good to die by.”

In Shelbyville, a man at the close of a discourse remarked, that he

could see no good reason for living a christian life if Universalism is

true.

“My friend,” I replied, “will you answer me a few questions? If you

were sure of heaven would you put out your eyes? run hot lead into your

ears? Would you not rather wish to see and hear in this world?”

“Yes.”

“If you were sure of being saved, would you not eat when hungry, and

drink when thirsty?”

“Yes.”

“If you were certain of going to heaven, would you not love your wife,

children, father, mother, brother and sister?”

“Yes.”

“If you expected to go to heaven when you die, when you are sick would

you not want to recover?”

“Yes.”

“If you were sure of being a happy man next year, would you not want to

be happy this year?”

“Yes.”

“If you were certain of enjoying good health in old age, would you not

like to have good health now?”

“Yes.”

“If you were sure of being a true Christian ten years hence, would you

not desire to be a Christian this year?”

“Yes.”

“My friend, you have answered your own question as I would, and as any

one would, save a fool. If eternal life is to be our portion in the

other world, we should lay hold of it in _this world_. If a heavenly

feast awaits us on the other side of the river, why not partake of the

heavenly feast on _this side_? But this, I suppose, puzzles you; you

think the Christian is no better off in this world than the sinner;

that he treads a thorny path, and is crushed by a heavy yoke, hence the

question, Why live a christian life, if after all, I am sure of heaven?

The truth is, the good man, and only the good man, is truly blessed in

this world. He enjoys heaven _now_ in anticipation of one beyond the

grave. This blissful hope transforms his character into the heavenly

image. But there is another reason why we should live Christians if

heaven is sure. ‘Godliness hath the promise of the life that now is,

and of that which is to come.’ He who lives a godly life is not only

well paid for it in this world, but he enters the other world with

_capabilities_ for happiness far exceeding that man who spends this

life in sin and folly. This is an important consideration. There are

then, at least, two reason why we should be Christians in this world

if God has promised that all shall finally be redeemed. 1st, We are

happier in this world for it; 2d, We shall be happier in the next world

for it.”

In Breckenridge, Ky., bigotry would not allow me to speak in defense of

the truth. One preacher took special pains to have every door closed

against me, but sin only triumphed for a season; for when I returned

a house was obtained, and I delivered a long sermon on the sin of

bigotry. Showed that it was the same thing the world over, in all ages

and climes, in christian and heathen lands; that it was as cruel as

an hyena, bloody as a wolf, and remorseless as a tiger; that it had

drenched the earth with gore, and covered its surface with the slain

of human kind; that it had slain Jesus, the prophets and apostles, and

was still at its wicked work; and the only reason why bigots are not

now crucifying, beheading, hanging, quartering and burning the saints

of the Lord was, the laws of the land will not let them indulge in such

amusements, but they were doing all they _dare_ do--they were stabbing

character, suppressing free thought, and persecuting the saints of God.

I considerably extended my acquaintance by this journey, and obtained

many subscribers for the _Teacher_.

Soon after my return, I had a debate with Mr. Dickerson, of Park

county, Ind. He was a Scotch Presbyterian--a Calvinist, and the bluest

of the blue. He contended stoutly, that all God wills to save, and

that Christ died for, will be saved; but, said he, God wills to save

only the elect, and Christ died only for the elect, and he supposed

that they compose about one tenth of mankind. In one of my speeches, I

remarked:

Mr. Dickerson comes out plainly, boldly, independently, in favor of

old-fashioned Calvinism. He has no faith in the modern improvements of

Calvinism; he takes it as it flowed from the pen of John Calvin. He

tells us, that God _wills_, _purposes_ the salvation of only _part_ of

mankind. If he is correct, it seems to me, the Bible needs revising,

for it certainly teaches that it is the will and purpose of God that

all mankind shall be saved. The apostle Paul expressly says, “God will

have _all men_ to be saved, and to come to the knowledge of the truth.”

1 Tim. ii. 4. “Having made known unto us the mystery of his will,

according to his good pleasure, which he hath purposed in himself; that

in the dispensation of the fullness of times he might gather together

in one _all things_ in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are

on earth; even in him.” Eph. i. 9, 10. In these passages the purpose

of God in the creation of man is clearly revealed. It is his will,

pleasure and purpose to save _all_, to bless _all_ in Christ. Does

_all_ mean _part_? Is the Bible a riddle? If so, let us finish the

riddle by saying virtue means vice, truth error, happiness misery, love

hatred, life death, salvation damnation, heaven hell, Christ Belial,

and God means devil. This would be carrying out the interpretation

Calvinism gives the Bible. How a man, standing in the midst of God’s

works, and with the Bible in his hand, can for a moment assert, that

the Author of all these glories all around, can will and purpose

the eternal wretchedness of nine tenths of mankind, is a problem of

intellectual blindness I cannot solve. Before I can subscribe to such

a creed my reason must be destroyed, my conscience deadened, my eyes

put out, my ears stopped, and my heart become as hard as adamant. The

gentleman says, this is an evidence of my carnal mindness; and if I

could see with spiritual eyes--he must mean Calvin’s eyes, the eyes

that beheld Michael Servetus, burning on a pile of green wood--I should

be charmed with the beauties of Calvinism.

2. It was the mission of Jesus to do the will and purpose of God, and

I have proved that it is God’s will and purpose to save the world--not

one here and there--but the world. Hence the joyous language of the

angels when they announced his birth: “Fear not: for behold, I bring

you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to _all people_. For

unto you is born this day in the city of David a Savior, which is

Christ the Lord. And suddenly there was with the angel a multitude

of the heavenly host praising God, and saying, Glory to God in the

highest, and on earth peace, good will toward men.” Luke ii. 10, 11,

13, 14. This language does not comport at all with the theory that it

was the mission of Jesus to bless only _one tenth_ of mankind. John,

directing attention to Jesus, said, “Behold the Lamb of God, which

taketh away the sin of _the world_.” John i. 29. Said Jesus, concerning

his mission, “And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw _all

men_ to me.” John xii. 32. The apostles understood it to be the mission

of Jesus to save the world--not one tenth of our race. “We have seen

and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Savior of _the

world_.” 1 John iv. 14. “He gave himself a ransom for _all_, to be

testified in due time.” 1 Tim. ii. 6. “And he is the propitiation for

our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of _the whole

world_.” 1 John ii. 2. “And, having made peace through the blood of his

cross, by him to reconcile _all things_ unto himself; by him, I say,

whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.” Col. i. 20. “God

was in Christ, reconciling _the world_ unto himself.” 2 Cor. v. 19. But

why cite more testimony? I could fill my hour with quotations from the

New Testament, showing that Christ’s mission was not a partial one, but

that it embraced all the sons and daughters of earth. He was born the

Savior of the world, and he lived, died, arose, ascended, and still is,

the Savior of the world. That truth corresponds with his spirit, his

labors, his moral precepts, his principles and his prayers. Calvinism

crucifies the true Christ, and sets up an impostor, an anti-christ, in

his stead. It also denies the true God, and substitutes a monster.

This speech kindled the ire of Mr. Dickerson. He denounced me in

unmeasured terms, and marshaled all his strength in defense of

Calvinism. He was familiar with its strongest arguments, and he paraded

them to the best advantage. He said Universalism is Arminianism gone

to seed, and he denounced both systems with much bitterness. This led

me to remark--I believe in all the truth there is in Arminianism and

Calvinism, and there is some truth in both systems. Calvinism says,

that all God wills to save will surely be saved--not one lost. Very

good; I can say, amen to that. Arminianism says, that God wills the

salvation of _all_. Very good; I can say, amen to that. I will put

these two truths, and the sequence from them, in the form of a sylogism:

1. Arminianism--It is God’s will, that all men shall be saved.

2. Calvinism--God’s will shall be done.

3. Conclusion--All will be saved.

I cast aside the dross of Calvinism and Arminianism, and retain the

pure gold of both systems.

He pitched into my sylogism rough shod, and in reply, I gave him

several from the Bible.

1. It is the will of God that all men shall be saved. Proof: “Who will

have all men to be saved.” 1 Tim. ii. 4.

2. God’s will is to be done. Proof: “He doeth according to his will in

the armies of heaven, and among the inhabitants of the earth; and none

can stay his hand, or say unto him, what doest thou?” Dan. iv. 35. “He

doeth all things after the council of his own will.” Eph. i. 11.

3. Conclusion--All will be saved.

1. God purposes the salvation of all men. Proof: Eph. i. 9, 10, above

quoted.

2. God’s purpose will be effected. Proof: “As I have purposed so shall

it stand--for the Lord hath purposed, and who shall disannul it?” Isa.

xiv. 24, 27. “I have spoken it, I will also bring it to pass; I have

purposed it, I will also do it.” Isa. xlvi. 11.

3. Conclusion--All will be saved.

1. All were given to Christ. Proof: “Thou has given him power over all

flesh, that he may give eternal life to as many as thou has given him.”

John xvii. 2.

2. All shall be saved who were given to Christ. Proof: “All that the

Father giveth me shall come to me, and he that cometh to me I will in

no wise cast away.” John vi. 37.

3. Conclusion--All will be blessed with eternal life.

About this time, I held an oral discussion in Chambersburg, Fountain

county, with a Baptist minister--have forgotten his name. I arrived

in due time, but my opponent did not make his appearance. There was

a large assembly, in a beautiful grove; and after waiting about one

hour, another minister took his place, and the discussion proceeded.

He made one speech, and while I was replying the expected man made

his appearance. When I was through he proposed, that each of us make

one speech, and then close the debate; but I insisted that we should

occupy two days according to agreement. He was rather a weak brother;

but he knew the book of Revelation from A to izzard, and all the

other mysterious portions of the Bible. He could tell how deep was

the “bottomless pit,” how large was the “red dragon,” how big was

his “head,” “horns,” and “crown;” could give the exact length of his

“tail,” that cast to earth the “third part of the stars of heaven.” He

was deeply versed in all that kind of lore, but drank shallow draughts

of useful knowledge or common sense. But a large number attended the

discussion, and I had an excellent opportunity to talk to the people.

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