ON TALKATIVENESS.[541]

Sec. I. Philosophy finds talkativeness a disease very difficult and hard to

cure. For its remedy, conversation, requires hearers: but talkative

people hear nobody, for they are ever prating. And the first evil this

inability to keep silence produces is an inability to listen. It is a

self-chosen deafness of people who, I take it, blame nature for giving

us one tongue and two ears. If then the following advice of Euripides to

a foolish hearer was good,

"I cannot fill one that can nought retain,

Pumping up wise words for an unwise man;"

one might more justly say to a talkative man, or rather about a

talkative man,

"I cannot fill one that will nothing take,

Pumping up wise words for an unwise man;"

or rather deluging with words one that talks to those who don't listen,

and listens not to those who talk. Even if he does listen for a short

time, talkativeness hurries off what is said like the retiring sea, and

anon brings it up again multiplied with the approaching tide. The

portico at Olympia that returns many echoes to one utterance is called

seven-voiced,[542] and if the slightest utterance catches the ear of

talkativeness, it at once echoes it all round,

"Moving the mind's chords all unmoved before."[543]

For their ears can certainly have no passages leading to the brain but

only to the tongue. And so while other people retain what they hear,

talkative people lose it altogether, and, being empty-headed, they

resemble empty vessels, and go about making much noise.[544]

Sec. II. If however it seems that no attempt at cure has been left untried,

let us say to the talkative person,

"Be silent, boy; silence has great advantages;"

two of the first and foremost of which are hearing and being heard,

neither of which can happen to talkative people, for however they desire

either so unhappy are they that they must desist from it. For in all

other diseases of the soul, as love of money, love of glory, or love of

pleasure, people at any rate attain the desired object: but it is the

cruel fate of talkative people to desire hearers but not to get them,

for everyone flees from them with headlong speed; and if people are

sitting or walking about in any public place,[545] and see one coming

they quickly pass the word to one another to shift quarters. And as when

there is dead silence in any assembly they say Hermes has joined the

company, so when any prater joins some drinking party or social

gathering of friends, all are silent, not wishing to give him a chance

to break in, and if he uninvited begin to open his mouth, they all,

"like before a storm at sea, when Boreas is blowing a gale round some

headland," foreseeing tossing about and nausea, disperse. And so it is

their destiny to find neither willing table-companions, nor messmates

when they are travelling by land or by sea, but only such as cannot help

themselves; for such a fellow is always at you, plucking hold of your

clothes or chin, or giving you a dig in the ribs with his elbow. "Most

valuable are the feet in such a conjuncture," according to Archilochus,

nay according to the wise Aristotle himself. For he being bothered with

a talkative fellow, and wearied out with his absurd tales, and his

frequent question, "Is not this wonderful, Aristotle?" "Not at all,"

said he, "but it is wonderful that anyone with a pair of legs stops here

to listen to you." And to another such fellow, who said after a long

rigmarole, "Did I weary you, philosopher, by my chatter?" "Not you, by

Zeus," said he, "for I paid no attention to you." For even if talkative

people force you to listen,[546] the mind can give them only its outward

ears to deluge, while it unfolds and pursues some other thoughts within;

so they find neither hearers to attend to them, nor credit them. They

say those that are prone to Venus are commonly barren: so the prating of

talkative people is ineffectual and fruitless.

Sec. III. And yet nature has fenced and barricaded in us nothing so much as

the tongue, having put the teeth before it as a barrier, so that if,

when reason holds tight her "glossy reins,"[547] it hearken not, nor

keep within bounds, we may check its intemperance, biting it till the

blood comes. For Euripides tells us that, not from unbolted houses or

store-rooms, but "from unbridled mouths the end is misfortune."[548] But

those persons who think that houses without doors and open purses are no

good to their possessors, and yet keep their mouths open and unshut, and

allow their speech to flow continually like the waves of the

Euxine,[549] seem to regard speech as of less value than anything. And

so they never get believed, though credit is the aim of every speech;

for to inspire belief in one's hearers is the proper end of speech, but

praters are disbelieved even when they tell the truth. For as corn

stowed away in a granary is found to be larger in quantity but inferior

in quality, so the speech of a talkative man is increased by a large

addition of falsehood, which destroys his credit.

Sec. IV. Then again every man of modesty and propriety would avoid

drunkenness, for anger is next door neighbour to madness as some

think,[550] but drunkenness lives in the same house: or rather

drunkenness is madness, more short-lived indeed, but more potent also

through volition, for it is self-chosen. Nor is drunkenness censured for

anything so much as its intemperate and endless talk.

"Wine makes a prudent man begin to sing,

And gently laugh, and even makes him dance."[551]

And yet there is no harm in all this, in singing and laughing and

dancing. But the poet adds--

"And it compels to say what's best unsaid."[552]

This is indeed dreadful and dangerous. And perhaps the poet in this

passage has solved that problem of the philosophers, and stated the

difference between being under the influence of wine and being drunk,

mirth being the condition of the former, foolish talk of the latter. For

as the proverb tells us, "What is in the heart of the sober is on the

tongue of the drunken."[553] And so Bias, being silent at a drinking

bout, and jeered at by some young man in the company as stupid, replied,

"What fool could hold his tongue in liquor?" And at Athens a certain

person gave an entertainment to the king's ambassadors, and at their

desire contrived to get the philosophers there too, and as they were all

talking together and comparing ideas, and Zeno alone was silent, the

strangers greeted him and pledged him, and said, "What are we to tell

the king about you, Zeno?" And he replied, "Nothing, but that there is

an old man at Athens that can hold his tongue at a drinking bout." So

profound and mysterious and sober is silence, while drunkenness is

talkative: for it is void of sense and understanding, and so is

loquacious. And so the philosophers define drunkenness to be silly talk

in wine. Drinking therefore is not censured, if silence go with it, but

foolish prating turns being under the influence of wine into

drunkenness. And the drunken man prates only in his cups; but the

talkative man prates everywhere, in the market-place, in the theatre,

out walking, by night and by day. If he is your doctor, he is more

trouble to you than your disease: if he is on board ship with you, he

disgusts you more than sea-sickness; if he praises you, he is more

fulsome than blame. It is more pleasure associating with bad men who

have tact than with good men who prate. Nestor indeed in Sophocles'

Play, trying by his words to soothe exasperated Ajax, said to him

mildly,

"I blame you not, for though your words are bad,

Your acts are good:"

but we cannot feel so to the talkative man, for his want of tact in

words destroys and undoes all the grace of his actions.

Sec. V. Lysias wrote a defence for some accused person, and gave it him,

and he read it several times, and came to Lysias in great dejection and

said, "When I first perused this defence, it seemed to me wonderful, but

when I read it a second and third time, it seemed altogether dull and

ineffective. Then Lysias laughed, and said, "What then? Are you going to

read it more than once to the jury?" And yet do but consider the

persuasiveness and grace of Lysias' style;[554] for he "I say was a

great favourite with the dark-haired Muses."[555] And of the things

which have been said of Homer the truest is that he alone of all poets

has survived the fastidiousness of mankind, as being ever new and still

at his acme as regards giving pleasure, and yet saying and proclaiming

about himself, "I hate to spin out a plain tale over and over

again,"[556] he avoids and fears that satiety which lies in ambush for

every narrative, and takes the hearer from one subject to another, and

relieves by novelty the possibility of being surfeited. But the

talkative worry one's ears to death with their tautologies, as people

scribble the same things over and over again on palimpsests.[557]

Sec. VI. Let us remind them then first of this, that just as in the case of

wine, which was intended for pleasure and mirth, those who compel people

to drink it neat and in large quantities bring some into a disgusting

condition of drunkenness, so with speech, which is the pleasantest

social tie amongst mankind, those who make a bad and ill-advised use of

it render it unpleasing and unfit for company, paining those whom they

think to gratify, and become a laughing-stock to those who they think

admire them, and objectionable to those who they think love them. As

then he cannot be a favourite of the goddess who with Aphrodite's

charmed girdle[558] repels and drives away those who associate with him,

so he who with his speech bores and disgusts one is without either taste

or refinement.

Sec. VII. Of all other passions and disorders some are dangerous, some

hateful, some ridiculous, but in talkativeness all these elements are

combined. For praters are jeered at for their commonplaces, and hated

when they bring bad news, and run into danger when they reveal secrets.

And so Anacharsis, when he was feasted by Solon and lay down to sleep,

and was observed with his left hand on his private parts, and his right

hand on his mouth, for he thought his tongue needed the stronger

restraint, was right in his opinion. For it would be difficult to find

as many men who have been ruined by venereal excesses as cities and

leading states that have been undone by the utterance of a secret. When

Sulla was besieging Athens, and had no time to waste there, "for he had

other fish to fry,"[559] as Mithridates was ravaging Asia, and the party

of Marius was again in power at Rome, some old men in a barber's shop

happened to observe to one another that the Heptachalcon was not well

guarded, and that their city ran a great risk of being captured at that

point, and some spies who overheard this conversation reported it to

Sulla. And he at once marched up his forces, and about midnight entered

the city with his army, and all but rased it to the ground, and filled

it with slaughter and dead bodies, insomuch that the Ceramicus ran with

blood: and he was thus savage against the Athenians for their words

rather than their deeds, for they had spoken ill of him and his wife

Metella, jumping on to the walls and calling out in a jeering way,

"Sulla is a mulberry bestrewn with barley meal,"

and much similar banter. Thus they drew down upon themselves for words,

which, as Plato[560] says, are a very small matter, a very heavy

punishment.[561] The prating of one man also prevented Rome from

becoming free by the removal of Nero. For it was only the night before

the tyrant was to be murdered, and all preparations had been made, when

he that was to do the deed going to the theatre, and seeing someone in

chains near the doors who was about to be taken before Nero, and was

bewailing his sad fortune, went up close to him and whispered, "Pray

only, good sir, that to-day may pass by, to-morrow you will owe me many

thanks." He guessing the meaning of the riddle, and thinking, I take it,

"he is a fool who gives up what is in his hand for a remote

contingency,"[562] preferred certain to honourable safety. For he

informed Nero of what the man had said, and he was immediately arrested,

and torture, and fire, and scourging were applied to him, who denied now

in his necessity what before he had divulged without necessity.

Sec. VIII. Zeno the philosopher,[563] that he might not against his will

divulge any secrets when put to the torture, bit off his tongue, and

spit it at the tyrant. Famous also was the reward which Leaena had for

her taciturnity.[564] She was the mistress of Harmodius and Aristogiton,

and, although a woman, participated in their hopes of success in the

conspiracy against the tyrants: for she had revelled in the glorious cup

of love, and had been initiated in their secrets through the god. When

then they had failed in their attempt and been put to death, and she was

examined and bidden to reveal the names of the other conspirators, she

refused to do so, and held out to the end, showing that those famous men

in loving such a one as her had done nothing unworthy of them. And the

Athenians erected to her memory a bronze lioness without a tongue, and

placed it near the entrance to the Acropolis, signifying her dauntless

courage by the nobleness of that animal, and by its being without a

tongue her silence and fidelity. For no spoken word has done as much

good as many unspoken ones. For at some future day we can give utterance

if we like to what has been not said, but a word once spoken cannot be

recalled, but flies about and runs all round the world. And this is the

reason, I take it, why men teach us to speak, but the gods teach us to

be silent, silence being enjoined on us in the mysteries and in all

religious rites. Thus Homer has described the most eloquent Odysseus,

and Telemachus, and Penelope, and the nurse, as all remarkable for their

taciturnity. You remember the nurse saying,

"I'll keep it close as heart of oak or steel."[565]

And Odysseus sitting by Penelope,

"Though in his heart he pitied her sad grief,

His eyes like horn or steel impassive stood

Within their lids, and craft his tears repressed."[566]

So great control had he over all his body, and so much were all his

members under the sway and rule of reason, that he commanded his eyes

not to weep, his tongue not to speak, and his heart not to tremble or

quake.[567]

"So calm and passive did his heart remain,"[568]

reason penetrating even to the irrational instincts, and making spirit

and blood obedient and docile to it. Such also were most of his

companions, for though they were dashed to the ground and dragged along

by the Cyclops, they said not a word about Odysseus, nor did they show

the stake of wood that had been put into the fire and prepared to put

out Polyphemus' eye, but they would rather have been eaten alive than

divulge secrets, such wonderful self-control and fidelity had they.[569]

And so it was not amiss of Pittacus, when the king of Egypt sent him a

victim, and bade him take from it the best and worst piece of it, to

pull out the tongue and send that to the king, as being the instrument

of the greatest blessings and withal the greatest mischiefs.

Sec. IX. So Ino in Euripides, speaking plainly about herself, says she

knows "how to be silent when she should, and to speak when speech is

safe."[570] For those who have enjoyed a truly noble and royal education

learn first to be silent and then to speak. So the famous king

Antigonus, when his son asked him, "When are we going to shift our

quarters?" answered, "Are you afraid that you only will not hear the

trumpet?" Was he afraid then to entrust a secret to him, to whom he

intended one day to leave his kingdom? Nay rather, it was to teach him

to be close and guarded on such matters. Metellus[571] also, the

well-known veteran, when questioned somewhat similarly about an

expedition, said, "If I thought my coat knew the secret, I would strip

it off and throw it into the fire." And Eumenes, when he heard that

Craterus was marching against him, told none of his friends, but

pretended that it was Neoptolemus; for his soldiers despised

Neoptolemus, but they admired the glory and loved the virtue of

Craterus; and no one but Eumenes knew the truth, and they engaged and

were victorious, and unwittingly killed Craterus, and only recognized

his dead body. So great a part did silence play in the battle,

concealing the name of the enemy's general: so that Eumenes' friends

marvelled more than found fault at his not having told them the truth.

And if anyone should receive blame in such a case, it is better to be

censured when one has done well by keeping one's counsel, rather than to

have to accuse others through having come to grief by trusting them.

Sec. X. But, generally speaking, who has the right to blame the person who

has not kept his secret? For if it was not to be known, it was not well

to tell another person of it at all, and if you divulged your secret

yourself and expected another person to keep it, you had more faith in

another than in yourself. And so should he be such another as yourself

you are deservedly undone, and should he be a better man than yourself,

your safety is more than you could have reckoned on, as it involved

finding a man more to be trusted than yourself. But you will say, He is

my friend. Yes, but he has another friend, whom he reposes confidence in

as much as you do in your friend, and that other friend has one of his

own, and so on, so that the secret spreads in many quarters from

inability to keep it close in one. For as the unit never deviates from

its orbit, but (as its name signifies) always remains one, but the

number two contains within it the seeds of infinity, for when it departs

from itself it becomes plurality at once by doubling, so speech confined

in one person's breast is truly secret, but if it be communicated to

another it soon gets noised abroad. And so Homer calls words "winged,"

for as he that lets a bird go from his hands cannot easily get it back

again, so he that lets a word go from his mouth cannot catch or stop it,

but it is borne along "whirling on swift wings," and dispersed from one

person to another. When a ship scuds before the gale the mariners can

stop it, or at least check its course with cables and anchors, but when

the spoken word once sails out of harbour, so to speak, there is no

roadstead or anchorage for it, but borne along with much noise and echo

it dashes its utterer on the rocks, and brings him into imminent danger

of shipwreck,

"As one might set on fire Ida's woods

With a small torch, so what one tells one person

Is soon the property of all the citizens."[572]

Sec. XI. The Roman Senate had been discussing for several days a secret

matter, and there was much doubt and suspicion about it. And one of the

senator's wives, discreet in other matters but a very woman in

curiosity, pressed her husband close, and entreated him to tell her what

the secret was; she vowed and swore she would not divulge it, and did

not refrain from shedding tears at her not being trusted. And he,

nothing loth to convince her of her folly, said, "Your importunity,

wife, has prevailed, listen to a dreadful and portentous matter. It has

been told us by the priests that a lark has been seen flying in the air

with a golden helmet and spear: it is this portent that we are

considering and discussing with the augurs, as to whether it be a good

or bad omen. But say nothing about it." Having said these words he went

into the Forum. But his wife seized on the very first of her maids that

entered the room, and smote her breast, and tore her hair, and said,

"Alas! for my husband and country! What will become of us?" wishing and

teaching her maid to say, "Whatever's up?" So when she inquired she told

her all about it, adding that refrain common to all praters, "Tell no

one a word about it." The maid however had scarce left her mistress when

she told one of her fellow-servants who was doing little or nothing, and

she told her lover who happened to call at that moment. So the news

spread to the Forum so quickly that it got the start of its original

author, and one of his friends meeting him said, "Have you only just

left your house?" "Only just," he replied. "Didn't you hear the news?"

said his friend. "What news?" said he. "Why, that a lark has been seen

flying in the air with a golden helmet and spear, and the Senate are met

to discuss the portent." And he smiled and said to himself, "You are

quick, wife, for the tale to get before me to the Forum!" Then meeting

some of the Senators he disabused them of their panic. But to punish his

wife, he said when he got home, "You have undone me, wife: for the

secret has got abroad from my house, so that I must be an exile from my

country for your inability to keep a secret." And on her trying to deny

it, and saying, "Were there not three hundred Senators that heard of it

as well as you? Might not one of them have divulged it?" he replied,

"Stuff o' your three hundred! It was at your importunity that I invented

the story, to put you to the test!" This fellow tested his wife warily

and cunningly, as one pours water, and not wine or oil, into a leaky

vessel. And Fabius,[573] the friend of Augustus, hearing the Emperor in

his old age mourning over the extinction of his family, how two of his

daughter Julia's sons were dead, and how Posthumus Agrippa, the only

remaining one, was in exile through false accusation,[574] and how he

was compelled to put his wife's son[575] into the succession to the

Empire, though he pitied Agrippa and had half a mind to recall him from

banishment, repeated the Emperor's words to his wife, and she to

Livia.[576] And Livia bitterly upbraided Augustus, if he meant recalling

his grandson, for not having done so long ago, instead of bringing her

into hatred and hostility with the heir to the Empire. When Fabius came

in the morning as usual into the Emperor's presence, and said, "Hail,

Caesar!" the Emperor replied, "Farewell,[577] Fabius." And he

understanding the meaning of this straightway went home, and sent for

his wife, and said, "The Emperor knows that I have not kept his secret,

so I shall kill myself." And his wife replied, "You have deserved your

fate, since having been married to me so long you did not remember and

guard against my incontinence of speech, but suffer me to kill myself

first." So saying she took his sword, and slew herself first.

Sec. XII. That was a good answer therefore that the comic poet Philippides

made to king Lysimachus, who greeted him kindly, and said to him,[578]

"What shall I give you of all my possessions?" "Whatever you like, O

king, except your secrets." And talkativeness has another plague

attached to it, even curiosity: for praters wish to hear much that they

may have much to say, and most of all do they gad about to investigate

and pry into secrets and hidden things, providing as it were an

antiquated stock of rubbish[579] for their twaddle, in fine like

children who cannot[580] hold ice in their hands, and yet are unwilling

to let it go,[581] or rather taking secrets to their bosoms and

embracing them as if they were so many serpents, that they cannot

control, but are sure to be gnawed to death by. They say that garfish

and vipers burst in giving life to their young, so secrets by coming out

ruin and destroy those who cannot keep them. Seleucus Callinicus having

lost his army and all his forces in a battle against the Galati, threw

off his diadem, and fled on a swift horse with an escort of three or

four of his men a long day's journey by bypaths and out-of-the-way

tracks, till faint and famishing for want of food he drew rein at a

small farmhouse, where by chance he found the master at home, and asked

for some bread and water. And he supplied him liberally and courteously

not only with what he asked for but with whatever else was on the farm,

and recognized the king, and being very joyful at this opportunity of

ministering to the king's necessities, he could not contain himself, nor

dissemble like the king who wished to be incognito, but he accompanied

him to the road, and on parting from him, said, "Farewell, king

Seleucus." And he stretching out his right hand, and drawing the man to

him as if he was going to kiss him, gave a sign to one of his escort to

draw his sword and cut the man's head off;

"And at his word the head roll'd in the dust."[582]

Whereas if he had been silent then, and kept his counsel for a time, as

the king afterwards became prosperous and great, he would have received,

I take it, greater favour for his silence than for his hospitality. And

yet he had I admit some excuse for his want of reticence, namely hope

and joy.

Sec. XIII. But most talkative people have no excuse for ruining themselves.

As for example in a barber's shop one day there was some conversation

about the tyranny of Dionysius, that it was as hard as adamant and

invincible, and the barber laughed and said, "Fancy your saying this to

me, who have my razor at his throat most days!" And Dionysius hearing

this had him crucified. Barbers indeed are generally a talkative race,

for people fond of prating flock to them and sit in their shops, so that

they pick up the habit from their customers. It was a witty answer

therefore of king Archelaus,[583] when a talkative barber put the towel

round his neck, and asked him, "How shall I shave you, O king?"

"Silently," said the monarch. It was a barber that first spread the news

of the great reverse of the Athenians in Sicily, having heard of it at

the Piraeus from a slave that had escaped from the island. He at once

left his shop, and ran into the city at full speed, "that no one else

should reap the fame, and he come in the second,"[584] of carrying the

news into the town. And an uproar arising, as was only to be expected,

the people assembled in the ecclesia, and began to investigate the

origin of the rumour. So the barber was dragged up and questioned, but

knew not the person's name who had told him, so was obliged to refer its

origin to an anonymous and unknown person. Then anger filled the

theatre, and the multitude cried out, "Torture the cursed fellow, put

him to the rack: he has fabricated and concocted this news: who else

heard it? who credits it?" The wheel was brought, the poor fellow

stretched on it. Meantime those came up who had brought the news, who

had escaped from the carnage in Sicily. Then all the multitude dispersed

to weep over their private sorrows, and abandoned the poor barber, who

remained fastened to the wheel. And when released late in the evening he

actually asked the executioner, if they had heard how Nicias the General

was slain. So invincible and incorrigible a vice does habit make

talkativeness to be.

Sec. XIV. And yet, as those that drink bitter and strong-smelling physic

are disgusted even with the cups they drink it out of, so those that

bring evil tidings are disliked and hated by their hearers. Wittily

therefore has Sophocles described the conversation between Creon and the

guard.

"_G._ Is't in your ears or in your mind you're grieved?

_C._ Why do you thus define the seat of grief?

_G._ The doer pains your mind, but I your ears."[585]

However those that tell the tale grieve us as well as those that did the

deed: and yet there is no means of checking or controlling the running

tongue. At Lacedaemon the temple of Athene Chalcioecus[586] was broken

into, and an empty flagon was observed lying on the ground inside, and a

great concourse of people came up and discussed the matter. And one of

the company said, "If you will allow me, I will tell you what I think

about this flagon. I cannot help being of opinion that these

sacrilegious wretches drank hemlock, and brought wine with them, before

commencing their nefarious and dangerous work: that so, if they should

fail to be detected, they might depart in safety, drinking the wine neat

as an antidote to the hemlock: whereas should they be caught in the act,

before they were put to the torture they would die of the poison easily

and painlessly." When he had uttered these words, the idea seemed so

ingenious and farfetched that it looked as if it could not emanate from

fancy, but only from knowledge of the real facts. So the crowd

surrounded this man, and asked him one after the other, "Who are you?

Who knows you? How come you to know all this?" And at last he was

convicted in this way, and confessed that he was one of those that had

committed the sacrilege. And were not the murderers of Ibycus similarly

captured? They were sitting in the theatre, and some cranes flew over

their heads, and they laughed and whispered to one another, "Behold the

avengers of Ibycus." And this being overheard by some who sat near, as

Ibycus had now been some time missing and inquired after, they laid hold

of this remark, and reported it to the magistrates. And so they were

convicted and dragged off to punishment, being brought to justice not by

the cranes but by their own inability to hold their tongues, being

compelled by some Fury or Vengeance as it were to divulge the

murder.[587] For as in the body there is an attraction to sore and

suffering parts from neighbouring parts, so the tongue of talkative

persons, ever suffering from inflammation and a throbbing pulse,

attracts and draws to it secret and hidden things. And so the tongue

ought to be fenced in, and have reason ever before it, as a bulwark, to

prevent its tripping: that we may not seem to be more silly than geese,

of whom it is said that, when they fly from Cilicia over Mt. Taurus

which swarms with eagles, they carry in their mouths a large stone,

which they employ as a gag or bridle for their scream, and so they cross

over by night unobserved.

Sec. XV. Now if anyone were to ask who is the worst and most abandoned man,

no one would pass over the traitor, or mention anyone else. It was as

the reward of treason that Euthycrates roofed his house with Macedonian

wood, as Demosthenes tells us; and that Philocrates got a large sum of

money, and spent it on women and fish; and it was for betraying Eretria

that Euphorbus and Philagrus got an estate from king Philip. But the

talkative man is an unhired and officious traitor, not of horses[588] or

walls, but of secrets which he divulges in the law courts, in factions,

in party-strife, no one thanking him for his pains; but should anyone

listen to him he thinks he is the obliged party. So that what was said

to a man who rashly and indiscriminately squandered away all his means

and bestowed them on others,

"It is not kindness in you but disease,

This itch for giving,"[589]

is appropriate also to the prater, "You don't communicate to us all this

out of friendship or goodwill, but it is a disease in you, this itch for

talking and prating."

Sec. XVI. But all this must not be looked upon merely as an indictment

against talkativeness, but an attempt to cure it: for we overcome the

passions by judgement and practice, but judgement is the first step. For

no one is wont to shun, and eradicate from his soul, what he does not

dislike. And we dislike the passions only when we discern by reason the

harm and shame that results to us by indulging them. As we see every day

in the case of talkative people: if they wish to be loved, they are

hated; if they desire to please, they bore; when they think they are

admired, they are really laughed at; they spend, and get no gain from so

doing; they injure their friends, benefit their enemies, and ruin

themselves. So that the first cure and remedy of this disorder will be

to reckon up the shame and trouble that results from it.

Sec. XVII. In the next place we must consider the opposite virtue to

talkativeness, always listening to and having on our lips the encomiums

passed upon reserve, and remembering the decorum sanctity and mysterious

power of silence, and ever bearing in mind that terse and brief

speakers, who put the maximum of matter into the minimum of words, are

more admired and esteemed and thought wiser[590] than unbridled

windbags. And so Plato[591] praises, and compares to clever javelin-men,

such as speak tersely, compressedly, and concisely. And Lycurgus by

using his citizens from boyhood to silence taught them to perfection

their brevity and terseness. For as the Celtiberians make steel of iron

only after digging down deep in the soil, and carefully separating the

iron ore, so Laconian oratory has no rind,[592] but by the removal of

all superfluous matter goes home straight to the point like steel. For

its sententiousness,[593] and pointed suppleness in repartee, comes from

the habit of silence. And we ought to quote such pointed sayings

especially to talkative people, such neatness and vigour have they, as,

for example, what the Lacedaemonians said to Philip, "[Remember]

Dionysius at Corinth."[594] And again, when Philip wrote to them, "If I

invade Laconia, I will drive you all out of house and home," they only

wrote back, "If." And when king Demetrius was indignant and cried out,

"The Lacedaemonians have only sent me one ambassador," the ambassador was

not frightened but said, "Yes, one to one man." Certainly among the

ancients men of few words were admired. So the Amphictyones did not

write extracts from the Iliad or Odyssey, or the Paeans of Pindar, in the

temple of Pythian Apollo at Delphi, but "Know thyself," "Not too much of

anything,"[595] and "Be a surety, trouble is near;"[596] so much did

they admire compactness and simplicity of speech, combining brevity with

shrewdness of mind. And is not the god himself short and concise in his

oracles? Is he not called Loxias,[597] because he prefers ambiguity to

longwindedness? And are not those who express their meaning by signs

without words wonderfully praised and admired? As Heraclitus, when some

of the citizens asked him to give them his opinion about concord, got on

the platform, and took a cup of cold water, and put some barley-meal in

it, and stirred it up with penny-royal, thus showing them that it is

being content with anything, and not needing costly dainties, that keeps

cities in peace and concord. Scilurus, the king of the Scythians, left

eighty sons, and on his death-bed asked for a bundle of sticks, and bade

his sons break it when it was tied together, and when they could not, he

took the sticks one by one and easily broke them all up: thus showing

them that their harmony and concord would make them strong and hard to

overthrow, while dissension would make them feeble and insecure.

Sec. XVIII. If then anyone were continually to recollect and repeat these

or similar terse sayings, he would probably cease to be pleased with

idle talk. As for myself, when I consider of what importance it is to

attend to reason, and to keep to one's purpose, I confess I am quite put

out of countenance by the example of the slave of Pupius Piso the

orator. He, not wishing to be annoyed by their prating, ordered his

slaves merely to answer his questions, and not say a word more. On one

occasion wishing to pay honour to Clodius who was then in power, he

ordered him to be invited to his house, and provided for him no doubt a

sumptuous entertainment. At the time fixed all the guests were present

except Clodius, for whom they waited, and the host frequently sent the

slave who used to invite guests to see if he was coming, but when

evening came, and he was now quite despaired of, he said to his slave,

"Did you not invite him?" "Certainly," said the slave. "Why then has he

not come?" said the master. "Because he declined," said the slave. "Why

then did you not tell me of it at once?" said the master. "Because you

never asked me," said the slave. This was a Roman slave. But an Athenian

slave "while digging will tell his master on what terms peace was made."

So great is the force of habit in all matters. And of it we will now

speak.

Sec. XIX. For it is not by applying bit or bridle that we can restrain the

talkative person, we must master the disease by habit. In the first

place then, when you are in company and questions are going round,

accustom yourself not to speak till all the rest have declined giving an

answer. For as Sophocles says, "counsel is not like a race;" no more are

question and answer. For in a race the victory belongs to him who gets

in first, but in company, if anyone has given a satisfactory answer, it

is sufficient by assenting and agreeing to his view to get the

reputation of being a pleasant fellow; and if no satisfactory answer is

given, then to enlighten ignorance and supply the necessary information

is well-timed and does not excite envy. But let us be especially on our

guard that, if anyone else is asked a question, we do not ourselves

anticipate and intercept him in giving an answer. It is indeed perhaps

nowhere good form, if another is asked a favour, to push him aside and

undertake to grant it ourselves; for we shall seem so to upbraid two

people at once, the one who was asked as not able to grant the favour,

and the other as not knowing how to ask in the right quarter. But

especially insulting is such forwardness and impetuosity in answering

questions. For he that anticipates by his own answer the person that was

asked the question seems to say, "What is the good of asking him? What

does he know about it? In my presence nobody else ought to be asked

about these matters." And yet we often put questions to people, not so

much because we want an answer, as to elicit from them conversation and

friendly feeling, and from a wish to fit them for company, as Socrates

drew out Theaetetus and Charmides. For it is all one to run up and kiss

one who wishes to be kissed by another, or to divert to oneself the

attention that he was bestowing on another, as to intercept another

person's answers, and to transfer people's ears, and force their

attention, and fix them on oneself; when, even if he that was asked

declines to give an answer, it will be well to hold oneself in reserve,

and only to meet the question modestly when one's turn comes, so framing

one's answer as to seem to oblige the person who asked the question, and

as if one had been appealed to for an answer by the other. For if people

are asked questions and cannot give a satisfactory answer they are with

justice excused; but he who without being asked undertakes to answer a

question, and anticipates another, is disagreeable even if he succeeds,

while, if his answer is unsatisfactory, he is ridiculed by all the

company, and his failure is a source of the liveliest satisfaction to

them.

Sec. XX. The next thing to practise oneself to in answering the questions

put to one,--a point to which the talkative person ought to pay the

greatest attention,--is not through inadvertence to give serious answers

to people who only challenge you to talk in fun and sport. For some

people concoct questions not for real information, but simply for

amusement and to pass the time away, and propound them to talkative

people, just to have them on. Against this we must be on our guard, and

not rush into conversation too hastily, or as if we were obliged for the

chance, but we must consider the character of the inquirer and his

purpose. When it seems that he really desires information, we should

accustom ourselves to pause, and interpose some interval between the

question and answer; during which time the questioner can add anything

if he chooses, and the other can reflect on his answer, and not be in

too great a hurry about it, nor bury it in obscurity, nor, as is

frequently the case in too great haste, answer some other question than

that which was asked. The Pythian Priestess indeed was accustomed to

utter some of her oracles at the very moment before the question was

put: for the god whom she serves "understands the dumb, and hears the

mute."[598] But he that wishes to give an appropriate answer must

carefully consider both the question and the mind of the questioner,

lest it be as the proverb expresses it,

"I asked for shovels, they denied me pails."[599]

Besides we ought to check this greediness and hunger for words, that it

may not seem as if we had a flood on our tongue which was dammed up, but

which we were only too glad to discharge[600] on a question being put.

Socrates indeed so repressed his thirst, that he would not allow himself

to drink after exercise in the gymnasium, till he had first drawn from

the well one bucket of water and poured it on to the ground, that he

might accustom his irrational part to wait upon reason.

Sec. XXI. There are moreover three kinds of answers to questions, the

necessary, the polite, and the superfluous. For instance, if anyone

asked, "Is Socrates at home?" one, as if backward and disinclined to

answer, might say, "Not at home;" or, if he wished to speak with Laconic

brevity, might cut off "at home," and simply say "No;" as, when Philip

wrote to the Lacedaemonians to ask if they would receive him in their

city, they sent him back merely a large "No." But another would answer

more politely, "He is not at home, but with the bankers," and if he

wished to add a little more, "he expects to see some strangers there."

But the superfluous prater, if he has read Antimachus of Colophon,[601]

says, "He is not at home, but with the bankers, waiting for some Ionian

strangers, about whom he has had a letter from Alcibiades who is in the

neighbourhood of Miletus, staying with Tissaphernes the satrap of the

great king, who used long ago to favour the Lacedaemonian party, but now

attaches himself to the Athenians for Alcibiades' sake, for Alcibiades

desires to return to his country, and so has succeeded in changing the

views of Tissaphernes." And then he will go over the whole of the Eighth

Book of Thucydides, and deluge the man, till before he is aware Miletus

is captured, and Alcibiades is in exile the second time. In such a case

most of all ought we to curtail talkativeness, by following the track of

a question closely, and tracing out our answer according to the need of

the questioner with the same accuracy as we describe a circle. When

Carneades was disputing in the gymnasium before the days of his great

fame, the superintendent of the gymnasium sent to him a message to bid

him modulate his voice (for it was of the loudest), and when he asked

him to fix a standard, the superintendent replied not amiss, "The

standard of the person talking with you." So the meaning of the

questioner ought to be the standard for the answer.

Sec. XXII. Moreover as Socrates urged his disciples to abstain from such

food as tempted them to eat when they were not hungry, and from such

drinks as tempted them to drink when they were not thirsty, so the

talkative person ought to be afraid most of such subjects of

conversation as he most delights in and repeats _ad nauseam_, and to try

and resist their influence. For example, soldiers are fond of

descriptions about war, and thus Homer introduces Nestor frequently

narrating his prowess and glorious deeds. And generally speaking those

who have been successful in the law courts, or beyond their hopes been

favourites of kings and princes, are possessed, as it were by some

disease, with the itch for frequently recalling and narrating, how they

got on and were advanced, what struggles they underwent, how they argued

on some famous occasion, how they won the day either as plaintiffs or

defendants, what panegyrics were showered upon them. For joy is much

more inclined to prate than the well-known sleeplessness represented in

comedies, frequently rousing itself, and finding something fresh to

relate. And so at any excuse they slip into such narratives. For not

only,

"Where anyone does itch, there goes his hand,"[602]

but also delight has a voice of its own, and leads about the tongue in

its train, ever wishing to fortify it with memory. Thus lovers spend

most of their time in conversations that revive the memory of their

loves; and if they cannot talk to human beings about them, they talk

about them to inanimate objects, as, "O dearest bed," and,

"O happy lamp, Bacchis deems you a god,

And if she thinks so, then you are indeed

The greatest of the gods."

The talkative person therefore is merely as regards words a white

line,[603] but he that is especially inclined to certain subjects should

be especially on his guard against talking about them, and should avoid

such topics, since from the pleasure they give him they may entice him

to be very prolix and tedious. The same is the case with people in

regard to such subjects as they think they are more experienced in and

acquainted with than others. For such a one, being self-appreciative and

fond of fame, "spends most of the day in that particular branch of study

in which he chances to be proficient."[604] Thus he that is fond of

reading will give his time to research; the grammarian his to syntax;

and the traveller, who has wandered over many countries, his to

geography. We must therefore be on our guard against our favourite

topics, for they are an enticement to talkativeness, as its wonted

haunts are to an animal. Admirable therefore was the behaviour of Cyrus

in challenging his companions, not to those contests in which he was

superior to them, but to those in which he was inferior, partly that he

might not give them pain through his superiority, partly for his own

benefit by learning from them. But the talkative person acts just

contrary, for if any subject is introduced from which he might learn

something he did not know, this he rejects and refuses, not being able

to earn a good deal by a short silence,[605] but he rambles round the

subject and babbles out stale and commonplace rhapsodies. As one amongst

us, who by chance had read two or three of the books of Ephorus,[606]

bored everybody, and dispersed every social party, by always narrating

the particulars of the battle of Leuctra and its consequences, so that

he got nicknamed Epaminondas.

Sec. XXIII. Nevertheless this is one of the least of the evils of

talkativeness, and we ought even to try and divert it into such channels

as these, for prating is less of a nuisance when it is on some literary

subject. We ought also to try and get some persons to write on some

topic, and so discuss it by themselves. For Antipater the Stoic

philosopher,[607] not being able or willing it seems to dispute with

Carneades, who inveighed vehemently against the Stoic philosophy,

writing and filling many books of controversy against him, got the

nickname of _Noisy-with-the-pen_; and perhaps the exercise and

excitement of writing, keeping him very much apart from the community,

might make the talkative man by degrees better company to those he

associated with; as dogs, bestowing their rage on sticks and stones, are

less savage to men. It will also be very advantageous for such to mix

with people better and older than themselves, for they will accustom

themselves to be silent by standing in awe of their reputation. And

withal it will be well, when we are going to say something, and the

words are on our lips, to reflect and consider, "What is this word that

is so eager for utterance? To what is this tongue marching? What good

will come of speaking now, or what harm of silence?" For we ought not to

drop words as we should a burden that pressed upon us, for the word

remains still after it has been spoken just the same; but men speak

either on their own behalf if they want something, or to benefit those

that hear them, or, to gratify one another, they season everyday life

with speech, as one seasons food with salt. But if words are neither

useful to the speaker, nor necessary for the hearer, nor contain any

pleasure or charm, why are they spoken? For words may be idle and

useless as well as deeds. And besides all this we must ever remember as

most important the dictum of Simonides, that he had often repented he

had spoken, but never that he had been silent: while as to the power and

strength of practice consider how men by much toil and painstaking will

get rid even of a cough or hiccough. And silence is not only never

thirsty, as Hippocrates says, but also never brings pain or sorrow.

[541] Or _Garrulity_, _Chattering_, _Prating_. It is

Talkativeness in a bad sense.

[542] Or _Heptaphonos_. See Pausanias, v. 21.

[543] Some unknown poet's words. I suppose they mean

driving one mad, making one "Like sweet bells jangled,

out of tune and harsh."

[544] So our English proverb, "Empty vessels make the

greatest sound."

[545] Literally in a semi-circular place. It is not

quite clear whether the front seats of the theatre are

meant, or, as I have taken it, more generally, of some

public place for entertainment or meeting, some

promenade or piazza.

[546] Reading [Greek: akouein], which seems far the best

reading.

[547] Homer, "Iliad," v. 226; "Odyssey," vi. 81.

[548] "Bacchae," 385-387.

[549] See Ovid, "Tristia," iv. 4, 55-58.

[550] For example, Horace, "Epistles," i. 2, 62: "Ira

furor brevis est" I read [Greek: homotoichos] with Mez.

[551] Homer, "Odyssey," xiv. 463-465.

[552] Ibid. 466.

[553] Compare the German proverb, "Thought when sober,

said when drunk"--"Nuchtern gedacht, voll gesagt."

[554] Cf. Quintilian, x. 1, 78: "His aetate Lysias major,

subtilis atque elegans et quo nihil, si oratori satis

est docere, quaeras perfectius. Nihil enim est inane,

nihil arcessitum; puro tamen fonti quam magno flumini

propior." Cf. ix. 4, 17.

[555] Somewhat like Pindar, "Pyth." i. 1. 1, 2.

[556] "Odyssey," xii. 452, 453.

[557] See Cicero, "Ad Fam." vii. 18; Catullus, xxii. 5,

6.

[558] See "Iliad," xiv. 214-217.

[559] "Allusio ad Homericum [Greek: epei ponos allos

epeigei.]"--_Xylander._

[560] "Laws," xi. p. 935 A.

[561] So true are the words of AEschylus, [Greek: glosse

mataia zemia prostribetai].--"Prom." 329.

[562] Our "A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush."

[563] "Non Citticus, sed Eleates. v. Cic. Tuscul. ii.

22, et Nat. Deor. 3, 33."--_Reiske._

[564] See Pausanias, i. 23. Leaena means "lioness." On

the conspiracy see Thucydides, vi. 54-59.

[565] Homer, "Odyssey," xix. 494. Plutarch quotes from

memory. The nurse's name was Euryclea.

[566] Odyssey," xix. 210-212. Quoted again "On Moral

Virtue," Sec. iv.

[567] Literally _bark_. See "Odyssey," xx. 13, 16.

[568] "Odyssey," xx. 23.

[569] See "Odyssey," ix. [Greek: Kyklopeia].

[570] Euripides, "Ino." Fragment, 416.

[571] "Significat Q. Caecilium Metellum, de quo Liv. xl.

45, 46."--_Reiske._

[572] Euripides, "Ino." Fragm. 415. Compare St. James,

iii. 5, 6.

[573] Fabius Maximus. So Tacitus, "Annals," i. 5, who

relates this story somewhat differently.

[574] See Tacitus, "Annals," i. 3. As to his fate, see

"Annals," i. 6.

[575] Tiberius Nero, who actually did succeed Augustus.

[576] The Emperor's wife.

[577] So it is in Sec. xii. But perhaps here it means, "I

wish you had more sense, Fabius!"

[578] Adopting the reading of Reiske.

[579] Reading [Greek: phorutou] or [Greek: phoryton], as

Wyttenbach.

[580] Reading [Greek: katechein dynantai] with Reiske.

[581] See Sophocles, Fragm. 162.

[582] Homer, "Iliad," x. 457.

[583] Compare "Moralia," p. 177 A; Horace, "Satires," i.

7. 3: "Omnibus et lippis notum et tonsoribus."

[584] Homer, "Iliad," xxii. 207.

[585] Sophocles, "Antigone," 317-319.

[586] See Pausanias, iii. 17; iv. 15; x. 5.

[587] Compare the idea of the people of Melita, Acts

xxviii. 4.

[588] An Allusion to Dolon in Homer, "Iliad," x., 374,

sq. according to Xylander.

[589] Quoted again by our author in his "Publicola," p.

105 B., and assigned to Epicharmus.

[590] So Shakspere has taught us, "Brevity is the soul

of wit."--_Hamlet_, Act ii Sc. 2.

[591] "In Protagora."--_Xylander._

[592] That is, is all kernel. See passim our author's

"Apophthegmata Laconica."

[593] Or, _apophthegmatic nature_.

[594] Dionysius the younger, tyrant of Syracuse, was

expelled, and afterwards kept a school at Corinth. That

is the allusion. It would be like saying "Remember

Napoleon at St. Helena."

[595] See Pausanias, x. 24.

[596] See Plato, "Charmides," 165 A.

[597] A title applied to Apollo first by Herodotus, i.

91, from his ambiguous ([Greek: loxa]) oracles.

[598] Part of the words of an oracle of the Pythian

Priestess, slightly changed. The whole oracle may be

seen in Herodotus, i. 47.

[599] Proverb of cross purposes.

[600] Reading [Greek: exerasthai] with Duebner.

[601] Catullus calls him "tumidus," _i.e._ long-winded,

95, 10. See also Propertius, iii. 34-32. He was a Greek

poet, a contemporary of Socrates and Plato, and author

of a Thebaid. Pausanias mentions him, viii. 25; ix. 35.

[602] The mediaeval proverb, _Ubi dolor ibi digitus_.

[603] A proverbial expression for having no judgment.

See Sophocles, Fragm. 307; Plato, "Charmides," 154 B;

Erasmus, "Adagia." So we say a person's mind is a blank

sheet on a subject he knows nothing about.

[604] Euripides, Fragm. 202. Quoted also by Plato,

"Gorgias," 484 E.

[605] Reading with Reiske, [Greek: misthon auto dounai

to mikron siopesai me dynamenos].

[606] A celebrated Greek historian, and pupil of

Isocrates. See Cicero, "De Oratore," ii. 13.

[607] Of Tarsus. See Cicero, "De Officiis," iii. 12.

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