Both Gods immortal, and earth-dwelling men;[189]

and again,

Exempt from sickness and old age are they,

And free from toil, and have escaped the flood

Of roaring Acheron?[190]

One may perhaps light upon some nations so barbarous and savage as

not to think there is a God; but there was never found any man who,

believing a God, did not at the same time believe him immortal and

eternal. Certainly, those who were called Atheists, like Theodorus,

Diagoras, and Hippo, durst not say that the Divinity is corruptible,

but they did not believe that there is any thing incorruptible; not

indeed admitting the subsistence of an incorruptibility, but keeping

the idea of a God. But Chrysippus and Cleanthes, having filled (as

one may say) heaven, earth, air, and sea with Gods, have not yet made

any one of all these Gods immortal or eternal, except Jupiter alone,

in whom they consume all the rest; so that it is no more proper for

him to consume others than to be consumed himself. For it is alike an

infirmity to perish by being resolved into another, and to be saved by

being nourished by the resolution of others into himself. Now these are

not like other of their absurdities, gathered by argument from their

suppositions or drawn by consequence from their doctrines; but they

themselves proclaim it aloud in their writings concerning the Gods,

Providence, Fate, and Nature, expressly saying that all the other Gods

were born, and shall die by the fire, melting away, in their opinion,

as if they were of wax or tin. It is indeed as much against common

sense that God should be mortal as that man should be immortal; nay,

indeed, I do not see what the difference between God and man will be,

if God also is a reasonable and corruptible animal. For if they oppose

us with this subtle distinction, that man is mortal, and God not mortal

but corruptible, see what they get by it. For they will say either that

God is at the same time both immortal and corruptible, or else that

he neither is mortal nor immortal; the absurdity of which even those

cannot exceed who set themselves industriously to devise positions

repugnant to common sense. I speak of others; for these men have left

no one of the absurdest things unspoken or unattempted.

To these things Cleanthes, contending for the conflagration of the

world, says, that the sun will make the moon and all the other stars

like to himself, and will change them into himself. Indeed, if the

stars, being Gods, should contribute any thing to the sun towards their

own destruction by contributing to its conflagration, it would be very

ridiculous for us to make prayers to them for our salvation, and to

think them the saviors of men, whose nature it is to accelerate their

own corruption and dissolution.

32. And yet these men leave nothing unsaid against Epicurus, crying

out, Fie, fie upon him, as confounding their presumption concerning

God by taking away Providence; for God (they say) is presumed and

understood to be not only immortal and happy, but also a lover of

men and careful of them and beneficial to them; and herein they say

true. Now if they who abolish Providence take away the preconception

concerning God, what do they who say that the Gods indeed have care

of us, but deny them to be helpful to us, and make them not bestowers

of good things but of indifferent ones, giving, to wit, not virtue,

but wealth, health, children, and such like things, none of which

is helpful, profitable, desirable, or available? Or shall we not

rather think, that the Epicureans do not take away the conceptions

concerning the Gods; but that these Stoics scoff at the Gods and deride

them, saying one is a God of fruits, another of marriage, another a

physician, and another a diviner, while yet health, issue, and plenty

of fruits are not good things, but indifferent things and unprofitable

to those who have them?

33. The third point of the conception concerning the Gods is, that the

Gods do in nothing so much differ from men as in happiness and virtue.

But according to Chrysippus, they have not so much as this difference.

For he says that Jupiter does not exceed Dion in virtue, but that

Jupiter and Dion, being both wise, are equally aided by one another,

when one falls into the motion of the other. For this and none else is

the good which the Gods do to men, and likewise men to the Gods when

they are wise. For they say, that a man who falls not short in virtue

comes not behind them in felicity, and that he who, being tormented

with diseases and being maimed in the body, makes himself away, is

equally happy with Jupiter the Savior, provided he be but wise.

But this man neither is nor ever was upon the earth; but there are

infinite millions of men unhappy to the highest degree in the state and

government of Jupiter, which is most excellently administered. Now what

can be more against sense than that, when Jupiter governs exceedingly

well, we should be exceedingly miserable? But if (which it is unlawful

even to say) he would wish no longer to be a savior, nor a deliverer,

nor a protector, but the contrary to all these glorious appellations,

there can no goodness be added to the things that are, either as to

their multitude or magnitude, since, as these men say, all men live to

the height miserably and wickedly, neither vice receiving addition, nor

unhappiness increase.

34. Nor is this the worst; but they are angry with Menander for saying

upon the stage,

The chief beginning of men’s miseries

Are things exceeding good;

for that this is against sense. And yet they make God, who is good,

the beginning of evils. “For matter,” they say, “produced not any evil

of itself; for it is without quality, and whatever differences it has,

it has received them all from that which moves and forms it.” But that

which moves and forms it is the reason dwelling in it, since it is not

made to move and form itself. So that of necessity evil, if it come

by nothing, must have been produced from that which has no being; but

if by some moving principle, from God. But if they think that Jupiter

has not the command of his parts nor uses every one of them according

to his reason, they speak against common sense, and imagine an animal,

many of whose parts are not subservient to his will but use their

own operations and actions, to which the whole gives no incitation

nor begins their motion. For there is nothing which has life so ill

compacted as that, against its will, its feet shall go, its tongue

speak, its horns push, or its teeth bite. The most of which things God

must of necessity suffer, if the wicked, being parts of him, do against

his will lie, cheat, rob, and murder one another. But if, as Chrysippus

says, the very least part cannot possibly behave itself otherwise than

according to Jupiter’s pleasure, and if every living thing is so framed

by Nature as to rest and move according as he inclines it and as he

turns, stays, and disposes it,

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