Two cents were afterwards proposed, when

Mr. FITZSIMONS remarked, that one gallon of molasses weighed eight

pounds; that at six cents it did not pay a cent per pound; could it,

therefore, be called anywise equal to such a tax on sugar? Moreover,

sugar is an article of as general consumption as molasses, and when it

is of this inferior quality, it enters as much or more into the

consumption of the poor as the other, while, at the same time, molasses

will sweeten more, according to its weight, than even the best sugar;

from which considerations, I think gentlemen will be satisfied by

putting it on an equality with molasses; therefore I do not oppose the

one cent.

On the question, the committee agreed to tax it but one cent per pound,

and loaf sugar three cents per pound. All other sugars one and a half

cent per pound. On coffee two and a half cents per pound.

On motion of Mr. BLAND, the committee rose and reported progress.

Adjourned.

WEDNESDAY, April 15.

A petition of David Ramsay, of the State of South Carolina, was

presented to the House and read, setting forth that Mr. William Smith, a

member returned to serve in this House as one of the representatives for

the State of South Carolina, was, at the time of his election,

ineligible thereto, and came within the disqualification of the third

paragraph of the constitution, which declares, "that no person shall be

a representative who shall not have been seven years a citizen of the

United States," and praying that these allegations may be inquired by

the House.

Referred to the Committee on Elections.

Mr. BENSON, from the committee to whom it was referred to consider of

and report to the House respecting the ceremonial of receiving the

President, and to whom was also referred a letter from the Chairman of a

Committee of the Senate to the SPEAKER, communicating an instruction

from that House to a committee thereof, to report if any, and what,

arrangements are necessary for the reception of the President, made the

following report:

"That Mr. Osgood, the proprietor of the house lately

occupied by the President of Congress, be requested to put

the same, and the furniture therein, in proper condition

for the residence and use of the President of the United

States, to provide for his temporary accommodation.

"That it will be most eligible, in the first instance, that

a committee of three members from the Senate, and five from

the House of Representatives, to be appointed by the Houses

respectively, to attend to receive the President at such

place as he shall embark from New Jersey for this city, and

conduct him without form to the house lately occupied by

the President of Congress, and that at such time

thereafter, as the President shall signify it will be

convenient for him, he be formally received by both Houses.

"That a committee of two members from the Senate, and three

members from the House of Representatives, to be appointed

by the Houses respectively, wait on the Vice President of

the United States, as soon as he shall come to this city,

and, in the name of the Congress of the United States,

congratulate him on his arrival."

And a committee of five was balloted for and chosen accordingly, for the

purpose of waiting on the President.

Another committee of three was appointed to wait on the Vice President.

_Duties on Imports._

The House again resolved itself into a Committee of the Whole on the

state of the Union, Mr. PAGE in the chair; the question being on

inserting, in the list of dutiable articles, beer, ale, and porter--

Mr. FITZSIMONS meant to make an alteration in this article, by

distinguishing beer, ale, and porter, imported in casks, from what was

imported in bottles. He thought this manufacture one highly deserving of

encouragement. If the morals of the people were to be improved by what

entered into their diet, it would be prudent in the national Legislature

to encourage the manufacture of malt liquors. The small protecting

duties laid in Pennsylvania had a great effect towards the establishment

of breweries; they no longer imported this article, but, on the

contrary, exported considerable quantities, and, in two or three years,

with the fostering aid of Government, would be able to furnish enough

for the whole consumption of the United States. He moved nine cents per

gallon.

Mr. LAWRENCE seconded the motion. He would have this duty so high as to

give a decided preference to American beer; it would tend also to

encourage agriculture, because the malt and hops consumed in the

manufacture were the produce of our own grounds.

Mr. SMITH (of Maryland) was opposed to such high duties as seemed to be

in the contemplation of some members of the committee. He thought enough

might be raised if the tax was lowered. He formed this opinion from some

calculations he had made with respect to the imports at Baltimore. He

stated them to amount for the last year, at the rate now proposed, to

£258,163; to this, if he added five other districts in Maryland, the

probable amount of which, on the same principle, would be £185,537;

then, these two sums multiplied by twelve, the supposed proportion that

Maryland ought to bear of the national debt, would produce £5,324,400, a

sum exceeding very considerably what the wants of the Union required.

Mr. GALE thought a duty of nine cents would operate as a prohibition

upon the importation of beer and porter. He remarked the advantages

which America possessed in growing malt and hops for the manufacture of

these articles. In addition to this, the risk and expense of bringing it

from Europe was to be considered. Upon the whole, he concluded so high a

duty as nine cents would give the brewers here a monopoly, defeat the

purpose of obtaining revenue, enhance the price to the consumer, and

thereby establish the use of spirituous liquors. For these

considerations he was against that sum.

Mr. SINNICKSON declared himself a friend to this manufacture, and

thought if the duty was laid high enough to effect a prohibition, the

manufacture would increase, and, of consequence, the price be lessened.

He considered it of importance, inasmuch as the materials were produced

in the country, and tended to advance the agricultural interest.

Mr. MADISON moved to lay an impost of eight cents on all beer imported.

He did not think this sum would give a monopoly, but hoped it would be

such an encouragement as to induce the manufacture to take deep root in

every State in the Union; in this case, it would produce the collateral

good hinted at by the gentleman from New Jersey, which, in his opinion,

was an object well worthy of being attended to. He observed, that, in

the State of New York, the article paid a duty equal to six cents on

importation, and if brought in foreign vessels, it amounted to eight

cents; and yet quantities of it were still imported, which proved that

eight cents would not amount to a prohibition.

The committee agreed hereupon to charge it at eight cents.

On all beer, ale, or porter, imported in bottles, per dozen, twenty-five

cents. Agreed to without debate.

On every barrel of beef it was moved to lay a duty of a dollar per

barrel.

Mr. BLAND thought that very little revenue was likely to be collected on

this article, let the duty be more or less; and as it was to be had in

sufficient quantities within the United States, perhaps a tax amounting

to a prohibition would be proper.

Mr. THATCHER admitted that there was beef enough to be got in every part

of the country, but it was fresh beef. Some States, from local

circumstances, were unable to salt and preserve it, therefore a tax on

this article would operate as a partial tax upon those States. If there

is a sufficient quantity in the other States to answer their own

consumption, they will feel no part of the burthen; but it appeared

unnecessary to him to lay this restriction, because he found some States

capable of exporting beef on terms as reasonably low as any other

country could, and it could not, therefore, be contended for as a

requisite encouragement to this branch of the agricultural interest.

Mr. GOODHUE did not contend that it was necessary to lay a particular

duty on beef, although it was among the enumerated articles admitted by

the committee. He was satisfied of the fact, that meat could be put up

here cheaper than in Europe, and afforded at a less price, so there was

little to apprehend from rivalship.

Mr. MADISON thought that almost every State in the Union had more of

this article than was necessary for its own consumption, and

consequently there was no danger of its being imported, unless the

quality of the foreign beef was superior. He would not object to

gentlemen gratifying themselves with this meat, especially as the

consumption was neither so great nor general as to affect the revenue,

and therefore he judged it might be struck out.

Mr. TUCKER thought with the gentleman from Virginia, that the regulation

was unnecessary, and that it would be better to throw it into the common

mass, taxable at a certain rate per cent. He therefore moved to have it

struck out.

Upon these considerations the articles of beef, pork, and butter, were

all struck out.

Mr. FITZSIMONS moved to lay a duty of two cents on all candles of tallow

per pound.

Mr. TUCKER observed, that some States were under the necessity of

importing considerable quantities of this article also, while others had

enough, and more than enough, for their own consumption, therefore the

burthen would be partially borne by such States. As the committee had

just rejected some articles upon this principle, he would move that this

be struck out likewise.

Mr. FITZSIMONS.--I am not for striking out, sir. Every article imported

into the State that gentleman represents, from which revenue is to be

raised, he moves to have struck out; but I wish the committee to

consider a moment before they join in sentiments with him. The

manufacture of candles is an important manufacture, and far advanced

towards perfection. I have no doubt but, in a few years, we shall be

able to furnish sufficient to supply the consumption of every part of

the continent. In Pennsylvania we have a duty of two pence per pound,

and under the operation of this small encouragement the manufacture has

gained considerable strength. We no longer import candles from Ireland

or England, of whom a few years ago we took considerable quantities; the

necessity of continuing those encouragements which the State

Legislatures have deemed proper, exists in a considerable degree;

therefore it will be politic in the Government of the United States to

continue such duties till their object is accomplished.

Mr. TUCKER would be glad to know what article it was that South Carolina

would not contribute her full proportion of tax upon--he saw none; on

the contrary, so far as the enumeration went, the impost would bear

unequally upon her, and he feared many others in the list would increase

the imposition. He thought it the duty of the committee to guard against

an unequal distribution of the public burthen in every case, and

therefore wished the duty on this article to be a moderate one; not

because it affected the State he represented, for it did not do this to

any degree, as wax candies were there principally consumed, the material

for which was the production of the Southern States, but because other

States, not having this advantage, might be oppressed.

Mr. BOUDINOT apprehended most States imported considerable quantities of

this article from Russia and Ireland; he expected they would be made

cheaper than they could be imported, if a small encouragement was held

out by the Government, as the materials were to be had in abundance in

our country.

Mr. LAWRENCE thought that if candles were an object of considerable

importation, they ought to be taxed for the sake of obtaining revenue,

and if they were not imported in considerable quantities, the burthen

upon the consumer would be small, while it tended to cherish a valuable

manufacture. He seconded Mr. FITZSIMON's motion for two cents: which was

carried in the affirmative upon the question being put.

On all candles of wax or spermaceti, per lb. six cents;

cheese, four cents; soap, two cents; boots, per pair, fifty

cents; on all shoes, slippers, or goloshes made of leather,

ten cents; on all shoes or slippers, made of silk or stuff,

ten cents; on all steel unwrought, per 112 lbs.,----

Mr. LEE moved to strike out this last article, observing that the

consumption of steel was very great, and essentially necessary to

agricultural improvements. He did not believe any gentleman would

contend, that enough of this article to answer consumption could be

fabricated in any part of the Union: hence it would operate as an

oppressive, though indirect tax upon agriculture, and any tax, whether

direct or indirect, upon this interest, at this juncture, would be

unwise and impolitic.

Mr. TUCKER joined the gentleman in his opinion, observing that it was

impossible for some States to get it but by importation from foreign

countries. He conceived it more deserving a bounty to increase the

quantity, than an impost which would lessen the consumption and make it

dearer also.

Mr. CLYMER replied, that the manufacture of steel in America was rather

in its infancy; but as all the materials necessary to make it were the

produce of almost every State in the Union, and as the manufacture was

already established, and attended with considerable success, he deemed

it prudent to emancipate our country from the manacles in which she was

held by foreign manufactures. A furnace in Philadelphia, with a very

small aid from the Legislature of Pennsylvania, made three hundred tons

in two years, and now makes at the rate of two hundred and thirty tons

annually, and with a little further encouragement would supply enough

for the consumption of the Union. He hoped, therefore, gentlemen would

be disposed, under these considerations, to extend a degree of patronage

to a manufacture, which a moment's reflection would convince them was

highly deserving protection.

Mr. MADISON thought the object of selecting this article to be solely

the encouragement of the manufacture, and not revenue, for on any other

consideration it would be more proper, as observed by the gentleman from

Carolina, (Mr. TUCKER) to give a bounty on the importation. It was so

materially connected with the improvement of agriculture and other

manufactures, that he questioned its propriety even on that score. A

duty would tend to depress many mechanic arts in the proportion that it

protected this; he thought it best to reserve this article to the

non-enumerated ones, where it would be subject to a five per cent. _ad.

valorem_.

Mr. TUCKER considered the smallest tax on this article to be a burthen

on agriculture, which ought to be considered an interest most deserving

protection and encouragement; on this is our principal reliance, on it

also our safety and happiness depend. When he considered the state of it

in that part of the country which he represented on this floor, and in

some other parts of the Union, he was really at a loss to imagine with

what propriety any gentleman could propose a measure big with

oppression, and tending to burthen particular States. The situation of

South Carolina was melancholy; while the inhabitants were deeply in

debt, the produce of the State was daily falling in price. Rice and

indigo were become so low, as to be considered by many not objects

worthy of cultivation; and gentlemen will consider, that it is not an

easy thing for a planter to change his whole system of husbandry in a

moment; but accumulated burthens will drive to this, and add to their

embarrassments. He thought an impost of five per cent. as great an

encouragement as ought to be granted, and would not oppose that being

laid. He called upon gentlemen to exercise liberality and moderation in

what they proposed, if they wished to give satisfaction and do justice

to their constituents.

Mr. FITZSIMONS thought, if gentlemen did not get rid of local

considerations, the committee would make little progress. Every State

will feel itself oppressed by a duty on particular articles, but when

the whole system is perfected, the burthen will be equal on all. He did

not desire, for his part, to obtain exclusive advantages for

Pennsylvania; he would contend, and undertake to prove, that by the

duties already agreed to, that State sacrificed as much as any other.

Indeed, if he had said more, he believed himself capable of proving the

position. Being of this opinion he hoped the committee would agree to

grant her an advantage which would revert back upon the other parts of

the Union, without operating even for the present, to the material

disadvantage of any. Some States were, from local circumstances, better

situated to carry on the manufacture than others, and would derive some

little advantage on this account in the commencement of the business.

The Eastern States were so situated, perhaps some of the Middle ones

also; but will it therefore be insisted upon, that the Southern States

pay more of the impost on foreign goods than these? For his part, he

never could conceive, that the consumption of those articles by the

negroes of South Carolina would contribute to the revenue as much as

that of the white inhabitants of the Eastern States. But laying aside

local distinctions, what operates to the benefit of one part in

establishing useful institutions, will eventually operate to the

advantage of the whole. With these considerations, he cheerfully

submitted the article to the discretion of the committee, moving to fill

the blank with sixty-six cents.

Mr. BLAND considered a tax of sixty-six cents a very heavy duty on

agriculture and the mechanic arts, and was averse to granting it.

Mr. BOUDINOT moved fifty-six cents, which motion was agreed to.

On nails and spikes, it was agreed to lay one cent per

pound; on tarred cordage, fifty cents per 112 pounds; on

untarred cordage, sixty cents per 112 pounds; on twine or

pack-thread, one hundred cents per 112 pounds.

Mr. MADISON said, that he was not clear as to the policy of taxing

cordage. He thought ship-building an object worthy of legislative

attention, and questioned the propriety of raising the price of any

article that entered so materially into the structure of vessels. But if

it was politic to lay an impost on cordage, would it not be the same

with regard to hemp? He thought it would, and therefore moved it.

Mr. BOUDINOT.--Hemp is a raw material, necessary for an important

manufacture, and therefore ought not to be subject to a heavy duty. If

it was the product of the country in general, a duty might be proper,

but this he believed was not the case.

Mr. MADISON.--I said before, I very much doubted the propriety of laying

a duty on such articles as entered into ship-building; but if it is

necessary to lay a duty on cordage for the purpose of encouraging the

manufacture, and making us independent of the world as to that article,

it is also politic to endeavor to make us alike independent for the raw

material; a great proportion of the land in the Western country is

peculiarly adapted to the growth of hemp, and it might be there

cultivated to advantage, if the labors of the husbandman were protected

by the Government.

Mr. BOUDINOT thought the soil of this country ill adapted to the

cultivation of hemp; even the strong low lands which are fit for it,

soon became exhausted; it impoverished the lands wherever it grew, and

destroyed the agricultural stamina. If he was not mistaken in this

opinion, he thought the committee would, with him, disagree to the

motion.

Mr. PARTRIDGE thought a duty on hemp would tend to discourage the

American navigation, her trade, and fisheries, without any good

resulting to warrant such an injury. It was not ascertained whether hemp

could be furnished in any tolerable quantities to answer the demand, and

if upon experience, it should be found that the quantity was

insufficient, what a stab this would prove to all concerned in

ship-building.

Mr. AMES expressed a doubt of the policy of taxing either cordage or

hemp, because while it tended to encourage the agriculture or

manufacture, it discouraged the maritime interest, and therefore the

discouragement, in the event, would reflect back upon those interests it

was intended to cherish.

Mr. MOORE declared the Southern States well calculated for the

cultivation of hemp, and, from certain circumstances, well inclined

thereto. He conceived it the duty of the committee to pay as much

respect to the encouragement and protection of husbandry (the most

important of all interests in the United States) as they did to

manufactures.

Mr. FITZSIMONS thought there was a clear distinction between taxing

manufactures and raw materials, well known to every enlightened country.

He had no doubt but hemp enough could be raised for the home

consumption, nay for exportation also, and why it was not done he could

not say. He recollected that before the revolution, very little was

imported; now, considerable quantities are brought from England. When

such a bulky article is capable of paying double freight, first from

Russia and then from England, besides its first cost, he conceived that

what was produced in America had a very considerable advantage. It could

not be urged that the people are unacquainted with the cultivation,

because it had been carried to very great perfection in former years. If

eight dollars a hundred is not a sufficient inducement to farmers to

raise hemp, it is a proof that they direct their labors to more

profitable productions, and why should legislative authority be

exercised to divide their attention? Or for this purpose, why should

navigation and ship-building be necessarily burthened. He concluded with

declaring, that no duty which the Congress would agree to lay, could

give encouragement to the cultivation of hemp, if the present price of

that article was insufficient.

Mr. SCOTT stated a fact or two, being perhaps as well acquainted with

the Western country as any member of the committee. The lands along the

frontiers, he could assure the committee, were well calculated for the

cultivation of this plant; it is a production that will bear carriage by

land better than any other, tobacco not excepted. He believed an

encouragement of the kind now moved for would bring, in a year or two,

vast quantities from that country, at little expense, to Philadelphia,

even from the waters of the Ohio; the inhabitants expect some

encourgement, and will be grateful for it. Although a gentleman has

called it a bulky article, yet as much can be packed upon a horse as a

horse can carry, or in a wagon as four horses can draw; so that its bulk

will not prevent our countrymen from seeking a market on the waters of

the Atlantic.

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