I have no doubt, you permit access to the letters of your foreign

ministers, by persons only of the most perfect trust. It is in the

European system to bribe the clerks high, in order to obtain copies

of interesting papers. I am sure you are equally attentive to the

conveyance of your letters to us, as you know that all are opened that

pass through any post-office of Europe. Your letters which come by the

packet, if put into the mail at New York, or into the post-office at

Havre, wear proofs that they have been opened. The passenger to whom

they are confided, should be cautioned always to keep them in his own

hands, till he can deliver them personally in Paris.

I have the honor to be, with very sincere esteem and respect, Dear Sir,

your most obedient and most humble servant,

Th: Jefferson.

LETTER CXII.--TO THE COUNT DE MONTMORIN, November 6, 1787

TO THE COUNT DE MONTMORIN.

Sir,

Paris, November 6, 1787.

I take the liberty of asking your Excellency’s perusal of the enclosed

case of an American hostage, confined in the prisons of Dunkirk. His

continuance there seems to be useless, and yet endless. Not knowing how

far the government can interfere for his relief, as it is a case wherein

private property is concerned, I do not presume to ask his liberation

absolutely: but I will solicit from your Excellency such measures in his

behalf, as the laws and usages of the country may permit.

The Comptroller General having been so good as to explain to me in a

conversation, that he wished to know what duties were levied in England

on American whale-oil, I have had the honor of informing him by letter,

that the ancient duties on that article are seventeen pounds, six

shillings, and six pence, sterling, the ton, and that some late

additional duties make them amount to about eighteen pounds sterling.

That the common whale-oil sells there but for about twenty pounds

sterling, the ton, and of course the duty amounts to a prohibition. This

duty was originally laid on all foreign fish-oil, with a view to favor

the British and American fisheries. When we became independent, and of

course foreign to Great Britain, we became subject to the foreign

duty. No duty, therefore, which France may think proper to lay on this

article, can drive it to the English market. It could only oblige the

inhabitants of Nantucket to abandon their fishery. But the poverty

of their soil offering them no other resource, they must quit their

country, and either establish themselves in Nova Scotia, where, as

British fishermen, they may participate of the British premium, in

addition to the ordinary price of their whale-oil, or they must accept

the conditions which this government offers, for the establishment they

have proposed at Dunkirk. Your Excellency will judge, what conditions

may counterbalance, in their minds, the circumstances of the vicinity

of Nova Scotia, sameness of langague,[sp.] laws, religion, customs,

and kindred. Remaining in their native country, to which they are most

singularly attached, excluded from commerce with England, taught to look

to France as the only country from which they can derive sustenance,

they will, in case of war, become useful rovers against its enemies.

Their position, their poverty, their courage, their address, and their

hatred, will render them formidable scourges on the British commerce.

It is to be considered then, on the one hand, that the duty which M. de

Calonne had proposed to retain on their oil, may endanger the shifting

this useful body of seamen out of our joint scale into that of the

British; and also may suppress a considerable subject of exchange for

the productions of France: on the other hand, that it may produce an

addition to his Majesty’s revenue. What I have thus far said, is on

the supposition, that the duty may operate a diminution of the price

received by the fishermen. If it act in the contrary direction, and

produce an augmentation of price to the consumer, it immediately brings

into competition a variety of other oils, vegetable and animal, a good

part of which France receives from abroad, and the fisherman, thus

losing his market, is compelled equally to change either his calling or

country. When M. de Calonne first agreed to reduce the duties to what he

has declared, I had great hopes the commodity could bear them, and

that it would become a medium of commerce between France and the United

States. I must confess, however, that my expectations have not been

fulfilled, and that but little has come here as yet. This induces me

to fear, that it is so poor an article, that any duty whatever will

suppress it. Should this take place, and the spirit of emigration once

seize those people, perhaps an abolition of all duty might then come too

late to stop, what it would now easily prevent. I fear there is danger

in the experiment; and it remains for the wisdom of his Majesty and his

ministers to decide, whether the prospect of gain to the revenue, or

establishing a national fishery, may compensate this danger. If the

government should decide to retain the duty, I shall acquiesce in it

cheerfully, and do every thing in my power to encourage my countrymen

still to continue their occupation.

The actual session of our several legislatures would render it

interesting to forward immediately the regulations proposed on our

commerce; and the expiration of the order of Bernis, at the close of

this month, endangers a suspension and derangement in the commerce of

tobacco, very embarrassing to the merchants of the two countries.

Pardon me therefore, Sir, if I appear solicitous to obtain the ultimate

decision of his Majesty’s Council on these subjects, and to ask as early

a communication of that decision, as shall be convenient.

I have the honor to be, with sentiments of the most profound esteem and

respect, your Excellency’s most obedient and most humble servant,

Th: Jefferson.

LETTER CXIII.--TO JOHN ADAMS, November 13, 1787

TO JOHN ADAMS.

Paris, November 13, 1787.

Dear Sir,

This will be delivered you by young Mr. Rutledge. Your knowledge of his

father will introduce him to your notice. He merits it, moreover, on his

own account.

I am now to acknowledge your favors of October the 8th and 26th. That of

August the 25th was duly received, nor can I recollect by what accident

I was prevented from acknowledging it in mine of September the 28th. It

has been the source of my subsistence hitherto, and must continue to

be so, till I receive letters on the affairs of money from America. Van

Staphorsts and Willinks have answered my drafts. Your books for Marquis

de la Fayette are received here. I will notify it to him, who is at

present with his Provincial Assembly in Auvergne.

Little is said lately of the progress of the negotiations between

the courts of Petersburg, Vienna, and Versailles. The distance of the

former, and the cautious, unassuming character of its minister here,

is one cause of delays: a greater one is, the greediness and instable

character of the Emperor. Nor do I think that the Principal here,

will be easily induced to lend himself to any connection, which shall

threaten a war within a considerable number of years. His own reign

will be that of peace only, in all probability; and were any accident

to tumble him down, this country would immediately gird on its sword and

buckler, and trust to occurrences for supplies of money. The wound their

honor has sustained, festers in their hearts; and it may be said with

truth, that the Archbishop and a few priests, determined to support his

measures, because proud to see their order come again into power, are

the only advocates for the line of conduct which has been pursued. It is

said, and believed through Paris literally, that the Count de

Montmorin ‘_pleuroit comme un enfant_,’ when obliged to sign the

counter-declaration. Considering the phrase as figurative, I believe it

expresses the distress of his heart. Indeed, he has made no secret of

his individual opinion. In the mean time, the Principal goes on with

a firm and patriotic spirit in reforming the cruel abuses of the

government, and preparing a new constitution, which will give to this

people as much liberty as they are capable of managing. This, I think,

will be the glory of his administration, because, though a good theorist

in finance, he is thought to execute badly. They are about to open a

loan of one hundred millions to supply present wants, and it is said,

the preface of the _Arrêt_ will contain a promise of the convocation of

the States General during the ensuing year. Twelve or fifteen Provincial

Assemblies are already in action, and are going on well: and I think,

that, though the nation suffers in reputation, it will gain infinitely

in happiness under the present administration. I enclose to Mr. Jay a

pamphlet, which I will beg of you to forward. I leave it open for your

perusal. When you shall have read it, be so good as to stick a wafer in

it. It is not yet published, nor will be for some days. This copy has

been ceded to me as a favor.

How do you like our new constitution? I confess there are things in it,

which stagger all my dispositions to subscribe to what such an Assembly

has proposed. The House of federal representatives will not be adequate

to the management of affairs, either foreign or federal. Their President

seems a bad edition of a Polish King. He may be elected from four years

to four years, for life. Reason and experience prove to us, that a

chief magistrate, so continuable, is an office for life. When one or

two generations shall have proved, that this is an office for life, it

becomes, on every succession, worthy of intrigue, of bribery, of force,

and even of foreign interference. It will be of great consequence to

France and England, to have America governed by a Galloman or Angloman.

Once in office, and possessing the military force of the Union, without

the aid or check of a council, he would not be easily dethroned, even

if the people could be induced to withdraw their votes from him. I wish

that at the end of the four years, they had made him for ever ineligible

a second time. Indeed, I think all the good of this new constitution

might have been couched in three or four new articles to be added to the

good, old, and venerable fabric, which should have been preserved even

as a religious relique. Present me and my daughters affectionately to

Mrs. Adams. The younger one continues to speak of her warmly. Accept

yourself assurances of the sincere esteem and respect, with which I have

the honor to be, Dear Sir, your friend and servant,

Th: Jefferson.

LETTER CXIV.--TO COLONEL SMITH, November 13, 1787

TO COLONEL SMITH.

Paris, November 13, 1787.

Sir,

I am now to acknowledge the receipt of your favors of October the

4th, 8th, and 26th. In the last, you apologize for your letters of

introduction to Americans coming here. It is so far from needing apology

on your part, that it calls for thanks on mine. I endeavor to show

civilities to all the Americans who come here, and who will give me

opportunities of doing it: and it is a matter of comfort to know, from

a good quarter, what they are, and how far I may go in my attentions to

them.

Can you send me Woodmason’s bills for the two copying presses, for the

Marquis de la Fayette and the Marquis de Chastellux? The latter makes

one article in a considerable account, of old standing, and which I

cannot present for want of this article. I do not know whether it is

to yourself or Mr. Adams I am to give my thanks for the copy of the new

constitution. I beg leave, through you, to place them where due. It will

yet be three weeks before I shall receive them from America. There

are very good articles in it; and very bad. I do not know which

preponderate. What we have lately read in the history of Holland, in

the chapter on the Stadtholder, would have sufficed to set me against

a chief magistrate eligible for a long duration, if I had ever been

disposed towards one: and what we have always read of the elections of

Polish Kings, should have for ever excluded the idea of one continuable

for life. Wonderful is the effect of impudent and persevering lying.

The British ministry have so long hired their gazetteers to repeat, and

model into every form, lies about our being in anarchy, that the world

has at length believed them, the English nation has believed them,

the ministers themselves have come to believe them, and what is more

wonderful, we have believed them ourselves. Yet where does this anarchy

exist? Where did it ever exist, except in the single instance of

Massachusetts? And can history produce an instance of rebellion so

honorably conducted? I say nothing of its motives. They were founded in

ignorance, not wickedness. God forbid, we should ever be twenty years

without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, and always, well

informed. The part which is wrong will be discontented, in proportion to

the importance of the facts they misconceive. If they remain quiet under

such misconceptions, it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the

public liberty. We have had thirteen States independent for eleven

years. There has been one rebellion. That comes to one rebellion in a

century and a half for each State. What country before ever existed a

century and a half without a rebellion? And what country can preserve

its liberties, if its rulers are not warned from time to time, that this

people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy

is to set them right as to facts, pardon, and pacify them. What signify

a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be

refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It

is its natural manure. Our convention has been too much impressed by the

insurrection of Massachusetts: and on the spur of the moment, they are

setting up a kite to keep the hen-yard in order. I hope in God, this

article will be rectified before the new constitution is accepted. You

ask me, if any thing transpires here on the subject of South America?

Not a word. I know that there are combustible materials there, and

that they wait the torch only. But this country probably will join

the extinguishers. The want of facts worth communicating to you,

has occasioned me to give a little loose to dissertation. We must be

contented to amuse, when we cannot inform.

Present my respects to Mrs. Smith, and be assured of the sincere esteem

of, Dear Sir, your friend and servant,

Th: Jefferson.

LETTER CXV.--TO WILLIAM CARMICHAEL, December 11, 1787

TO WILLIAM CARMICHAEL.

Paris, December 11, 1787.

Dear Sir,

I am later in acknowledging the receipt of your favors of October the

15th, and November the 5th and 15th, because we have been long expecting

a packet, which I hoped would bring communications worth detailing to

you; and she arrived only a few days ago, after a very long passage

indeed. I am very sorry you have not been able to make out the cipher

of my letter of September the 25th, because it contained things which

I wished you to know at that time. They have lost now a part of their

merit; * but still I wish you could decipher them, as there remains

a part, which it might yet be agreeable to you to understand. I have

examined the cipher, from which it was written. It as precisely a copy

of those given to Messrs. Barclay and Lambe. In order that you may

examine whether yours corresponds, I will now translate into cipher, the

three first lines of my letter of June the 14th.

*****

This will serve to show, whether your cipher corresponds with mine, as

well as my manner of using it. But I shall not use it in future, till I

know from you the result of your re-examination of it. I have the honor

now, to return you the letter you had been so good as to enclose to me.

About the same time of Liston’s conversation with you, similar ones were

held with me by Mr. Eden. He particularly questioned me on the effect

of our treaty with France, in the case of a war, and what might be our

dispositions. I told him without hesitation, that our treaty obliged

us to receive the armed vessels of France, with their prizes, into our

ports, and to refuse the admission of prizes made on her by her enemies;

that there was a clause by which we guarantied to France her American

possessions, and which might, perhaps, force us into the war, if these

were attacked. ‘Then it will be war,’ said he, ‘for they will assuredly

be attacked.’ I added, that our dispositions would be to be neutral, and

that I thought it the interest of both those powers that we should be

so, because it would relieve both from all anxiety as to the feeding

their West India islands, and England would, moreover, avoid a heavy

land war on our continent, which would cripple all her proceedings

elsewhere. He expected these sentiments from me personally, and he knew

them to be analogous to those of our country. We had often before had

occasions of knowing each other: his peculiar bitterness towards us

had sufficiently appeared, and I had never concealed from him, that I

considered the British as our natural enemies, and as the only nation

on earth, who wished us ill from the bottom of their souls. And I am

satisfied, that were our continent to be swallowed up by the ocean,

Great Britain would be in a bonfire from one end to the other. Mr.

Adams, as you know, has asked his recall. This has been granted, and

Colonel Smith is to return too; Congress having determined to put an end

to their commission at that court. I suspect and hope they will make no

new appointment.

Our new constitution is powerfully attacked in the American newspapers.

The objections are, that its effect would be to form the thirteen States

into one; that, proposing to melt all down into one general government,

they have fenced the people by no declaration of rights; they have not

renounced the power of keeping a standing army; they have not secured

the liberty of the press; they have reserved the power of abolishing

trials by jury in civil cases; they have proposed that the laws of the

federal legislatures shall be paramount the laws and constitutions of

the States; they have abandoned rotation in office; and particularly

their President may be re-elected from four years to four years, for

life, so as to render him a King for life, like a King of Poland; and

they have not given him either the check or aid of a council. To these,

they add calculations of expense, &c. &.c. to frighten the people. You

will perceive that those objections are serious and some of them not

without foundation. The constitution, however, has been received with

a very general enthusiasm, and as far as can be judged from external

demonstrations, the bulk of the people are eager to adopt it. In the

eastern States, the printers will print nothing against it, unless the

writer subscribes his name. Massachusetts and Connecticut have called

conventions in January, to consider of it. In New York, there is a

division. The Governor (Clinton) is known to be hostile to it. Jersey,

it is thought, will certainly accept it. Pennsylvania is divided; and

all the bitterness of her factions has been kindled anew on it. But the

party in favor of it is strongest, both in and out of the legislature.

This is the party anciently of Morris, Wilson, &c., Delaware will do

what Pennsylvania shall do. Maryland is thought favorable to it; yet it

is supposed Chase and Paca will oppose it. As to Virginia, two of her

Delegates, in the first place, refused to sign it. These were Randolph,

the Governor, and George Mason. Besides these, Henry, Harrison, Nelson,

and the Lees are against it. General Washington will be for it, but it

is not in his character to exert himself much in the case. Madison

will be its main pillar; but though an immensely powerful one, it is

questionable whether he can bear the weight of such a host. So that the

presumption is, that Virginia will reject it. We know nothing of the

dispositions of the States south of this. Should it fall through, as is

possible, notwithstanding the enthusiasm with which it was received in

the first moment, it is probable that Congress will propose, that, the

objections which the people shall make to it being once known, another

convention shall be assembled, to adopt the improvements generally

acceptable, and omit those found disagreeable. In this way, union may

be produced under a happy constitution, and one which shall not be too

energetic, as are the constitutions of Europe. I give you these details,

because, possibly, you may not have received them all. The sale of our

western lands is immensely successful. Five millions of acres have been

sold at private sale, for a dollar an acre, in certificates; and at the

public sales, some of them had sold as high as two dollars and forty

cents the acre. The sales had not been begun two months. By these

means, taxes, &c. our domestic debt, originally twenty-eight millions

of dollars, was reduced, by the 1st day of last October, to twelve

millions, and they were then in treaty-for two millions of acres more,

at a dollar, private sale. Our domestic debt will thus be soon paid off,

and that done, the sales will go on for money, at a cheaper rate, no

doubt, for the payment of our foreign debt. The _petite guerre_, always

waged by the Indians, seems not to abate the ardor of purchase or

emigration. Kentucky is now counted at sixty thousand. Frankland is also

growing fast.

I have been told, that the cutting through the Isthmus of Panama, which

the world has so often wished, and supposed practicable, has at times

been thought of by the government of Spain, and that they once proceeded

so far, as to have a survey and examination made of the ground; but

that the result was, either impracticability or too great difficulty.

Probably the Count de Campomanes, or Don Ulloa, can give you information

on this head. I should be exceedingly pleased to get as minute details

as possible on it, and even copies of the survey, report, &c. if they

could be obtained at a moderate expense. I take the liberty of asking

your assistance in this.

I have the honor to be, with great respect and esteem, Sir, your most

obedient and most humble servant,

Th: Jefferson.

LETTER CXVI.--TO JOHN ADAMS

TO JOHN ADAMS.

Paris, December 12, 1787.

Dear Sir,

In the month of July, I received from Fiseaux & Co. of Amsterdam, a

letter notifying me that the principal of their loan to the United

States would become due the first day of January. I answered them that

I had neither powers nor information on the subject, but would transmit

their letter to the board of treasury. I did so, by the packet which

sailed from Havre, August the 10th. The earliest answer possible would

have been by the packet which arrived at Havre three or four days ago.

But by her I do not receive the scrip of a pen from any body. This makes

me suppose, that my letters are committed to Paul Jones, who was to sail

a week after the departure of the packet; and that possibly, he may be

the bearer of orders from the treasury, to repay Fiseaux’ loan, with the

money you borrowed. But it is also possible, he may bring no order on

the subject. The slowness with which measures are adopted on our side

the water, does not permit us to count on punctual answers; but, on the

contrary, renders it necessary for us to suppose, in the present case,

that no orders will arrive in time, and to consider whether any thing,

and what, should be done. As it may be found expedient to transfer all

our foreign debts to Holland, by borrowing there, and as it may always

be prudent to preserve a good credit in that country, because we may

be forced into wars, whether we will or not, I should suppose it very

imprudent to suffer our credit to be annihilated, for so small a sum

as fifty-one thousand guelders. The injury will be greater too, in

proportion to the smallness of the sum; for they will ask, ‘How can a

people be trusted for large sums, who break their faith for such small

ones?’ You know best what effect it will have on the minds of the

money-lenders of that country, should we fail in this payment. You know

best also, whether it is practicable and prudent for us, to have this

debt paid without orders. I refer the matter, therefore, wholly to

your consideration, willing to participate with you in any risk and any

responsibility, which may arise. I think it one of those cases, where

it is a duty to risk one’s self. You will perceive, by the enclosed, the

necessity of an immediate answer, and that, if you think any thing

can and should be done, all the necessary authorities from you should

accompany your letter. In the mean time, should I receive any orders

from the treasury by Paul Jones, I will pursue them, and consider

whatever you shall have proposed or done, as _non avenue_.

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