A. I was on after. We could not get no one over there after we met
altogether. There was a committee appointed to wait on Mr. Scranton,
and I was on that committee to ask Mr. Scranton.
By Senator Reyburn:
Q. What reason did Mr. Scranton give?
A. He said he could not do it. He was not getting price enough for his
iron, and could not afford to give it. He said these were just as big a
price as any other company. There was one witness stated here to-day,
in regard to after the coroner's inquest was held, that they were to
take them in carriages to Wilkes-Barre after the arrest. There was no
such proposition made.
Q. Were you at the coroner's inquest?
A. Yes, I was there--a witness there. They were to make these arrests
and put them in the lockup here, and take them to Wilkes-Barre. They
were not to take them by night.
By Senator Yutzy:
Q. How do you know?
A. Because I was there all the time.
Q. Have any conversation with the officers?
A. No, sir; it was somewhere about eight o'clock in the evening, or
seven o'clock, when the verdict was given, and all the evidence was
taken. Then the arrest was to be made immediately after that. He stated
then, that there was an indictment in Wilkes-Barre, one for murder and
one for manslaughter. There was not. There was only one indictment
fetched against them. It was for manslaughter.
Q. Against whom?
A. Against the vigilants.
Q. Do you know how much the miners made per day during May, June, and
July, 1877?
A. The miners stated to me that they could make on an average about one
dollar and fifty cents a day.
Q. During May, June, and July?
A. Yes, sir; they were not working on full time. Some days they would
make half of that. They were paid by the car, and they would not get
the cars.
By Senator Yutzy:
Q. What was your object in coming up Lackawanna avenue at that time?
You say you came up and stood on the corner?
A. I most generally come up every day two or three times.
Q. You had no particular mission to go up there?
A. No, sir.
By Mr. Larrabee:
Q. Expect to see any fun?
A. No, sir; I did not.
Q. Did you expect there was anything going on?
A. No, sir; never dreamed of anything.
By Senator Yutzy:
Q. Did you know there was a crowd of men driving the men out of the
works.
A. No, sir; had not seen any.
Q. Did not know anything about that at all?
A. Did not see that at all. The men came out peaceably. I did not see
any men around.
Q. Did you see the crowd going up to the works?
A. The place was on the road coming up.
Q. You were at the meeting at the silk-works, and came up?
A. No, sir; I took the railroad.
Q. Did the railroad lead you by the shops?
A. No, sir.
Q. Were you about the shops when the men were driving the workmen
out--when the crowd was?
A. Yes. I just came there about the time the workmen were coming out. I
did not see them driven out.
Q. Did you go inside the shops?
A. No, sir.
Q. You were along there just as the workmen were coming out?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. Was the crowd chasing any of them?
A. Not that I saw.
Q. The workmen came out peaceably and quiet? There seemed to be no
trouble?
A. There did not seem to be any trouble.
Q. At what shops?
A. Delaware, Lackawanna and Western.
Q. At the lower shops?
A. At the first shops as you go down the hill.
Q. Did you see any men coming out of the lower works immediately in the
vicinity of where the stables are?
A. No, sir; I did not. I met them after the crowd had passed.
Q. Passed them?
A. Yes; and I asked them what the difficulty was. They told me the men
came there and ordered them out, so they went out. They stood all
around the streets there.
Q. Have you any knowledge of some men being clubbed and beaten and
injured?
A. No, sir. Did not see any clubbed, injured, or beaten in any way,
shape, or manner.
By Mr. Larrabee:
Q. Do you not know that such things did take place--that some were
beaten and driven out violently?
A. It was talked so. I never heard a man say he was hit.
By Senator Reyburn:
Q. Did you see the mayor hit?
A. No, sir.
Q. Did you see the mayor bleeding as if he had been struck?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. Did you see that crowd that came out of the shops with clubs in
their hands?
A. No, sir; I did not.