Mr. HOSTY. Mrs. Roberts' residence is over here, sir.
Representative FORD. On the other side?
Mr. HOSTY. Right. This is a vacant house.
Mr. STERN. The top of that page is north.
Mr. HOSTY. Right. This would be 2519, 2515, and probably 2511 here.
Mr. STERN. 2511, you are indicating the east side of that diagram?
Mr. HOSTY. East, yes. It would go east.
Mr. STERN. 2519 the west side?
Mr. HOSTY. West side, that is correct.
Mr. STERN. North being the top?
Mr. HOSTY. Right.
Mr. STERN. Now, tell us in detail of your interview with Mrs. Paine
starting from the time you rang the doorbell.
Mr. HOSTY. All right. As I say, when I entered the house I immediately
identified myself. I showed her my credentials, identified myself as a
special agent of the FBI, and requested to talk to her.
She invited me into the house.
Mr. STERN. Did she seemed surprised at your visit?
Mr. HOSTY. No, she didn't. She was quite friendly and invited me in,
said this is the first time she had ever met an FBI agent. Very cordial.
As I say, it is my recollection I sat here on the couch and she sat
across the room from me.
I then told her the purpose of my visit, that I was interested in
locating the whereabouts of Lee Oswald.
She readily admitted that Mrs. Marina Oswald and Lee Oswald's two
children were staying with her. She said that Lee Oswald was living
somewhere in Dallas. She didn't know where. She said it was in the Oak
Cliff area but she didn't have his address.
I asked her if she knew where he worked. After a moment's hesitation,
she told me that he worked at the Texas School Book Depository near the
downtown area of Dallas. She didn't have the exact address, and it is
my recollection that we went to the phone book and looked it up, found
it to be 411 Elm Street.
Mr. STERN. You looked it up while you were there?
Mr. HOSTY. Yes; that is my recollection that we looked it up in her
telephone book to show it at 411 Elm Street, Dallas, Tex.
She told me at this time that she did not know where he was living, but
she thought she could find out and she would let me know.
Mr. STERN. Did she tell you why she thought he was living alone in
Dallas at that time?
Mr. HOSTY. Well, she said that she did not want him at her house; that
she was willing to take Marina Oswald and the two children, but she
didn't have room for him and she didn't want him at the house. She was
willing to let him visit his wife and family, but she did not want him
residing there.
Mr. STERN. What did she say about his visits?
Mr. HOSTY. She remarked that he came out there periodically to visit
his wife and children on weekends.
Mr. STERN. Did she say when she expected his next visit might be?
Mr. HOSTY. I don't recall her stating when she expected him, no.
Mr. STERN. Did she say anything about the possibility of his coming
later that day?
Mr. HOSTY. No, sir.
Mr. STERN. You say the interview started at about 2:30?
Mr. HOSTY. Approximately 2:30; yes, sir.
Mr. STERN. About how long did it last?
Mr. HOSTY. At the very most 20-25 minutes.
Mr. STERN. Were you alone with Mrs. Paine throughout this period?
Mr. HOSTY. No; towards the conclusion of the interview, Marina Oswald,
who had apparently been napping, entered the living room.
Mr. STERN. Had you ever met Mrs. Oswald before?
Mr. HOSTY. Never before, no. As I had learned previously, and as Mrs.
Paine had told me, she did not speak any English, so Mrs. Paine then
told her in the Russian language who I was. I was an agent with the FBI.
I could tell from her eyes and her expression that she became quite
alarmed, quite upset. I had had previous experience with people who
come from Communist-controlled countries that they get excited when
they see the police. They must think that we are like the Gestapo or
something like that.
She became quite alarmed, and, like I say, I knew that she just had a
baby the week before. So I didn't want to leave her in that state, so
rather than just walking out and leaving her and not saying anything to
her, I told Mrs. Paine to relate to her in the Russian language that I
was not there for the purpose of harming her, harassing her, and that
it wasn't the job of the FBI to harm people. It was our job to protect
people.
Mrs. Paine relayed this information.