Mr. EISENBERG. And the----

Mr. LATONA. Brown wrapping paper.

Mr. EISENBERG. In any case when you conducted your examination first

did you tell Wittmus of your conclusions?

Mr. LATONA. I did not.

Mr. EISENBERG. When Mr. Wittmus conducted his examination first did he

tell you of his conclusions?

Mr. LATONA. No.

Mr. EISENBERG. Were his conclusions the same as yours?

Mr. LATONA. Ultimately, yes.

Mr. EISENBERG. When you say, "ultimately"?

Mr. LATONA. When the whole thing was completed.

Mr. DULLES. There was no difference of views between you at any stage?

Mr. LATONA. No, sir.

Mr. EISENBERG. Did anyone who examined these various objects--as to

which you have testified--in the FBI laboratory come to a conclusion

different from the one you did?

Mr. LATONA. They did not.

Mr. EISENBERG. Were there any identifications of fingerprints as being

Lee Harvey Oswald's in addition to the ones which you have given us?

Mr. LATONA. There were a number of identifications effected with latent

prints developed on personal effects.

Mr. EISENBERG. No, sir; on the material you have testified as to today.

Mr. LATONA. No; there were no others.

Mr. EISENBERG. Were any prints found--were the three fragmentary

prints found on the rifle, which were not sufficient for purposes of

identification, in any way inconsistent with the prints of Oswald which

you found?

Mr. LATONA. Very definitely, no. I might point out that actually

what was visible was consistent, in the sense that even though there

were no ridge formations available for purposes of making a positive

conclusion, the indications were that the pattern types were there,

were consistent with the pattern types which were on the hands of Lee

Harvey Oswald.

Mr. DULLES. As far as you know the conclusions of the Texas police

authorities who examined these objects, were your conclusions the same

as theirs, or was there any differences between you on this subject?

Mr. LATONA. Frankly, I don't know what there conclusion was.

Mr. EISENBERG. Mr. Chairman, I have no further questions.

Mr. DULLES. Have you any questions, Mr. Murray?

Mr. MURRAY. I have not.

Mr. DULLES. I have no further questions. Thank you very much indeed,

Mr. Latona. You have been very helpful. I have learned a great deal

myself.

Mr. LATONA. Thank you very much.

TESTIMONY OF ARTHUR MANDELLA, ACCOMPANIED BY LT. JOSEPH A. MOONEY, NEW

YORK POLICE DEPARTMENT, BUREAU OF CRIMINAL IDENTIFICATION

Mr. DULLES. Mr. Mandella, will you raise your right hand.

Do you swear that the testimony you give before this Commission will be

the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God?

Mr. MANDELLA. I do.

Mr. DULLES. Thank you.

Mr. EISENBERG. Mr. Mandella, could you give us your full name and

position?

Mr. MANDELLA. Arthur Mandella. I am a detective on the New York Police

Department and I work at the bureau of criminal identification in that

department.

Mr. EISENBERG. Could you briefly outline your qualifications as a

fingerprint identification expert, Mr. Mandella?

Mr. MANDELLA. In 1945 to 1948 I was a fingerprint technician in the

U.S. Navy. My principal duties were the classification and filing of

fingerprints, the developing and photographing of latent fingerprints

found at crime scenes, the comparison of latent fingerprints with

suspects, and the searching of fingerprint files in general.

From 1948 to 1953 I was employed by the U.S. Government as a criminal

investigator. However, my principal duties were the lifting and

developing and identification of latent fingerprints, also the

preparation of fingerprint exhibits for court presentation. From 1955

to the present I have been employed by the New York Police Department

and assigned to the bureau of criminal identification as a fingerprint

technician and performing the same duties that I just outlined. During

these past 17 years I have been examining not only fingerprints but

palmprints and infant footprints as well.

I graduated from the following fingerprint schools: in 1945, the U.S.

Naval Air Station; in 1948 I graduated from the Institute of Applied

Sciences, which is a fingerprint school, fingerprint and identification

school; in 1955 I graduated from the New York Police Fingerprint School

at the police academy; and in 1958 I attended an advanced latent

fingerprint course conducted by the FBI at the New York Police Academy.

I am a fingerprint instructor for the New York Police Department Bureau

of Criminal Identification and lecture at various hospitals relative to

the proper techniques involved in footprinting the newborn.

I am a qualified fingerprint expert and have testified in New York

State and Federal courts, including court-martials, relative to all

phases of fingerprints, palmprints, and footprints.

Mr. EISENBERG. Could you venture a guess as to how many identifications

you have been called upon to make in the course of your work?

Mr. MANDELLA. General identifications, I suppose, it runs into many

thousands. It is hard to pick a number. But it is certainly well into

the thousands of examinations.

Mr. EISENBERG. Mr. Chairman, may this witness be permitted to testify

as an expert witness on the subject of fingerprints?

Mr. DULLES. Yes; he may.

Mr. EISENBERG. Mr. Mandella, did you at my request examine certain

photographs of latent prints and compare them with photographs of inked

or known prints to determine whether there were identities between the

known and latent prints?

Mr. MANDELLA. Yes; I did.

Mr. EISENBERG. I hand you Commission Exhibits 656, 658, 659, 655,

657, 661, and 660. Could you briefly look through these and determine

whether these are the photographs which you examined? As you finish an

item, could you take a look at the Commission number and verify that

you looked at the photographs in that Commission envelope?

Mr. MANDELLA. Yes; I have examined the photographs contained in

Commission Exhibit No. 656.

Mr. DULLES. I wonder if you would just state the number, in each case,

in each envelope?

Mr. MANDELLA. In Commission Exhibit 656 there are 10 photos, 10

photographs. And I have also examined Commission Exhibit No. 658, which

is one photograph. I also examined Commission Exhibit No. 659, which is

two photographs. I have also examined Commission Exhibit No. 655, which

is two photographs. I have examined Commission Exhibit No. 661, which

contains three photographs. I have examined Commission Exhibit No.

660, which contains eight photographs. I have also examined Commission

Exhibit No. 657, which contains three photographs.

Mr. EISENBERG. 657 contains photographs of inked prints, is that

correct?

Mr. MANDELLA. That is correct.

Mr. EISENBERG. The standard 10-finger chart and a right and left

palmprint?

Mr. MANDELLA. Yes.

Mr. EISENBERG. Which you have been informed by me and you see on the

writing on these charts are the prints of Lee Harvey Oswald?

Mr. MANDELLA. That is correct.

Mr. EISENBERG. Do you have any other knowledge that these are the

prints of Lee Harvey Oswald?

Mr. MANDELLA. No; none whatsoever.

Mr. EISENBERG. And the remaining prints are photographs of what you

would call latent prints?

Mr. MANDELLA. Yes; they are.

Mr. EISENBERG. Did you make markings on the backs of these prints, Mr.

Mandella?

Mr. MANDELLA. Yes; on quite a few of them I did. However, not all of

them.

Mr. EISENBERG. And you made those markings on the basis of--in your own

hand printing?

Mr. MANDELLA. My own hand printing, for certain observations I wanted

recorded.

Mr. DULLES. What is the nature of the marking?

Mr. EISENBERG. Let's take a sample. I will pull one out at random

from Commission Exhibit 660. The topmost card says "Box B," which

corresponds to the label or the envelope 660--and that is No. 17.

Mr. DULLES. Will you show those to the witness and see if he identifies

his own writing?

Mr. MANDELLA. Yes; I have made these notations. Yes; I do recognize

these.

Mr. EISENBERG. The next one says "Box B" and "Negative--same as box 'D'

No. 7."

Mr. MANDELLA. Yes.

Mr. EISENBERG. You have seen these as you flipped through to identify

that these are the same photographs?

Mr. MANDELLA. Yes.

Mr. EISENBERG. Let the record show that these photographs are

photographs of latent prints taken by or under the supervision of Mr.

Sebastian Latona, and he has just testified that these photographs

were taken of objects which were identified earlier in Commission

proceedings. Mr. Latona transmitted these photographs to me directly,

and I in turn transmitted them to Mr. Mandella and Mr. Mooney, who is

also present in this hearing room.

Mr. Mandella, do you know what total number of identifiable

latent prints were contained in these exhibits that you just

identified--exclusive of 657, which contained the inked or known finger

and palm prints?

Mr. MANDELLA. No; but I have this outline here.

Mr. EISENBERG. Just approximately would you say how many identifiable

prints there were?

Mr. MANDELLA. Thirty.

Mr. EISENBERG. Some 30 odd prints?

Mr. MANDELLA. Some 30.

Mr. EISENBERG. And did you identify certain of those prints as being

the finger or palm prints of Lee Harvey Oswald?

Mr. MANDELLA. Yes; I did.

Mr. EISENBERG. Could you tell us which of those prints you so

identified?

Mr. MANDELLA. There was a photograph, a photograph of the underside of

the gun barrel, Commission Exhibit No.----

Mr. EISENBERG. That is Commission Exhibit No. 658, and I will hand you

that photograph now. You are referring to this photograph?

Mr. MANDELLA. Yes.

Mr. EISENBERG. And can you read the writing on the back of that?

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