I shook my head.

"An author has no further interest in his book after it is published."

Macdonald looked across at me. It was clear that he doubted my

seriousness.

"Surely you don't mean to say that you have no interest in _A Dominie's

Log_?"

"None whatever!" I said.

"You mean it?" persisted Macdonald.

"My dear Mac," I said, "an author dare not read his own book."

"Dare not! Why?"

"Because it's out of date five minutes after it's written."

For fully a minute we smoked in silence. Macdonald appeared to be

digesting my remark.

"You see," I continued presently, "when I read a book on education, I

want to learn, and I certainly don't expect to learn anything from the

man I was five years ago."

"I think I understand," said Macdonald. "You have come to realise that

what you wrote five years ago was wrong. That it?"

"True for you, Mac. You've just hit it."

"You needn't have waited five years to find that out," he said, with a

good-natured grin. "I could have told you the day the book was

published--I bought one of the first copies."

"Still," he continued, "I don't see why a book should be out-of-date in

five years. That is if it deals with the truth. Truth is eternal."

"What is truth?" I asked wearily. "We all thought we knew the truth

about gravitation. Then Einstein came along with his relativity

theory, and told us we were wrong."

"Did he?" inquired Macdonald, with a faint smile.

"I am quoting from the newspapers," I added hastily. "I haven't the

remotest idea what relativity means. Perhaps it's Epstein I mean--no,

he's a sculptor."

"You're hedging!" said Macdonald.

"Can you blame me?" I asked. "You're trying to get me to say what

truth is. I am not a professor of philosophy, I'm a dominie. All I

can say is that the _Log_ was the truth . . . for me . . . five years

ago; but it isn't the truth for me now."

"Then, what exactly is your honest opinion of the _Log_ as a work on

education?"

"As a work on education," I said deliberately, "the _Log_ isn't worth a

damn."

"Not a bad criticism, either," said Macdonald dryly.

"I say that," I continued, "because when I wrote it I knew nothing

about the most important factor in education--the psychology of

children."

"But," said Mrs. Macdonald in surprise--hitherto she had been an

interested listener--"I thought that the bits about the bairns were the

best part of the book."

"Possibly," I answered, "but I was looking at children from a grown-up

point of view. I thought of them as they affected me, instead of as

they affected themselves. I'll give you an instance. I think I said

something about wanting to chuck woodwork and cookery out of the school

curriculum. I was wrong, hopelessly wrong."

"I'm glad to hear you admit it," said Macdonald. "I have always

thought that every boy ought to be taught to mend a hen-house and every

girl to cook a dinner."

"Then I was right after all," I said quickly.

Macdonald stared at me, whilst his wife looked up interrogatively from

her embroidery.

"If your aim is to make boys joiners and girls cooks," I explained,

"then I still hold that cookery and woodwork ought to be chucked out of

the schools."

"But, man, what are schools for?" I saw a combative light in

Macdonald's eye.

"Creation, self-expression . . . . the only thing that matters in

education. I don't care what a child is doing in the way of creation,

whether he is making tables, or porridge, or sketches, or--or--"

"Snowballs!" prompted Macdonald.

"Or snowballs," I said. "There is more true education in making a

snowball than in listening to an hour's lecture on grammar."

Mrs. Macdonald dropped her embroidery into her lap, with a little gasp

at the heresy of my remark.

"You're talking pure balderdash!" said Macdonald, leaning forward to

knock the ashes from his pipe on the bars of the grate.

"Very well," I said cheerfully. "Let's discuss it. You make a class

sit in front of you for an hour, and you threaten to whack the first

child that doesn't pay attention to your lesson on nouns and pronouns."

"Discipline," said Macdonald.

"I don't care what you call it. I say it's stupidity."

"But, hang it all, man, you can't teach if you haven't got the

children's attention."

"And you can't teach when you have got it," I said. "A child learns

only when it is interested."

"But surely, discipline makes them interested," said Mrs. Macdonald.

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