Mr. PAINE. Yes.
Mr. LIEBELER. Than the package that was in your garage?
Mr. PAINE. Yes.
Mr. LIEBELER. And as far as the middle is concerned, you say that is
what, not as thick nor not as wide?
Mr. PAINE. Yes; somehow it should be a little wider, or a little fuller.
Mr. LIEBELER. It was a package which wasn't quite so tapering?
Mr. PAINE. Quite so tapered.
Mr. LIEBELER. Is that approximately the length of the package that you
remember in your garage?
Mr. PAINE. Yes; I think that is good. I grabbed it in some way or
another, I don't know what he did with this end.
Mr. LIEBELER. Referring to the "A"?
Mr. PAINE. There was a string, there were two strings on it.
Mr. LIEBELER. When you estimated the length of the package before,
would you have estimated it with the flap of the blanket that is now on
the "A" end folded over or extended a little bit as it happens to be in
this particular package?
Mr. PAINE. I don't think it was--I think the package is still all right
if you fold it over, and I would not, the length I was estimating was
the kind of length that I would grab there.
Mr. LIEBELER. So you think that the length would be more appropriate if
you folded this flap over here at "A"?
Mr. PAINE. Yes.
Mr. LIEBELER. Would you measure the length of that package and tell us
what it is?
Mr. PAINE. That is 41 inches.
Mr. LIEBELER. Now, after going through the process that we have gone
through here, of trying to wrap this rifle in this blanket, do you
think that the package that you saw in your garage could have been a
package containing a rifle similar to the one we have here?
Mr. PAINE. Yes; I think so. This has the right weight and solidness.
Mr. LIEBELER. What did you estimate, did you ever estimate, the weight
of that package?
Mr. PAINE. No; I don't think I did.
Mr. LIEBELER. Did you ever tell the FBI approximately how much you
thought it weighed?
Mr. PAINE. Oh, I may have said 7 or 8 pounds. But that was all after
the fact. I mean I didn't do it at the time.
Mr. LIEBELER. Did you ever discuss with the FBI the question of whether
or not the object in the package that you saw, let's assume for the
moment that it was a rifle, did you ever discuss with the FBI whether
the rifle could have had a telescopic sight mounted on it or not?
Mr. PAINE. I don't remember whether I discussed that with the FBI. I
haven't thought much about it. I didn't feel in the area of the package
where the sight is. In my memory of the tubes, I did picture more than
one tube.