Mr. JENNER. You found her, while you knew she was a pharmacist----

Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes.

Mr. JENNER. You immediately noticed that she was ignorant, let me say?

Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. In bringing up the child?

Mr. JENNER. In bringing up this child?

Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Absolutely.

Mr. JENNER. That she fed her sugar and water?

Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Milk and sugar.

Mr. JENNER. Milk and sugar and was unattentive as to cleanliness with

the child?

Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. The child was more or less clean, but with this

pacifier thing.

Mr. JENNER. The pacifier would fall on the floor, she would pick it up

and stick it in the baby's mouth?

Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. No; first she put it in her infected mouth and

then in the baby's mouth, it was even worse. That is what I objected.

Pick it up off the floor. The floor was less germs than her infected

teeth, but she was not aware of it. That is what didn't make sense,

didn't make sense at all. After all, a pharmacist--it also didn't make

any sense to me how could she, came from the country where all the

medical help is supposed to be absolutely free.

Mr. JENNER. Can you recall any other incidents?

Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. With Marina?

Mr. JENNER. Yes.

Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. I don't recollect of anything of any importance.

Mr. JENNER. Indicating what kind of a person she was. What about her

honesty? Would you believe her under oath, where her personal interests

were involved, let us say?

Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. I don't know. I tell you what I didn't like

about her recently and sort of swayed me a little against her.

According to what I read in the newspapers, she said when she was

asked--I mean what swayed me about her personality----

Mr. JENNER. I don't want you influenced by what you read in the papers

afterward. I want your opinion.

Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Before?

Mr. JENNER. Yes.

Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. She impressed me as an honest girl. She really

impressed me as an honest girl, and not malicious, not malicious,

promiscuous, you know.

Mr. JENNER. What?

Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Promiscuous.

Mr. JENNER. She was promiscuous but not malicious?

Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Not malicious. That is how I would put it, you

know. She was so anxious to live and she was so happy to be in the

United States. She wanted to have it all, you know what I mean? She

wanted a car and she wanted to have a little apartment and have all

these little gadgets that fascinated her, just like they fascinated me

when I came to the United States. She was living in that poor, poor

apartment. Of course, it was depressing for her.

Mr. JENNER. Was she talking to Lee about all, that she wanted a car and

these gadgets and a refrigerator?

Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. I cannot say she did, but I am sure she did.

Mr. JENNER. Your husband recalls that you and he, at least he,

suggested to them that they should buy a car. They could get one for

very little money.

Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. I believe we talked about it. But I don't know

if he even drives a car.

Mr. JENNER. Did you ever see him drive a car?

Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. No.

Mr. JENNER. Was there any discussion at any time in your presence

indicating whether he could or couldn't drive a car?

Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. I don't remember. I think we had them in a car

only once talking, you know, and she expressed how wonderful it would

be to have a car, something like that, this is the only recollection I

have. We didn't have too much discussions about it.

Mr. JENNER. You took the baby to the clinic for various shots?

Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Registered her, yes; and I got her card and the

dates when she is supposed to come over, and I didn't take her next

time. Somebody else took her. I took her only once to the clinic.

Mr. JENNER. So, as a matter of fact, Mrs. Dymitruk took her?

Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. She did.

Mr. JENNER. You recall Mrs. Dymitruk?

Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. I know her very little, but I recall her. I

think it is Lydia, isn't it?

Mr. JENNER. You also took her to the dentist. Was that at Baylor?

Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. It was a dental clinic, I believe. It was in

Baylor Hospital, dental clinic.

Mr. JENNER. Some money had to be paid in that connection?

Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes.

Mr. JENNER. And you got that money from George Bouhe?

Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. That is right, and he told me there would be

the necessity of more money there would be no objection if he got some

funds for them.

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