Mr. RAIGORODSKY. Didi De Mohrenschildt.
Mr. JENNER. That's the second wife?
Mr. RAIGORODSKY. It's Didi De Mohrenschildt.
Mr. JENNER. She is the Sharples girl?
Mr. RAIGORODSKY. The Sharples girl.
Mr. JENNER. And did it come to your attention that his present wife was
either born in China or went at a very early age, an infant age--came
to China?
Mr. RAIGORODSKY. I don't know anything about her except I know that
she is part Russian, French--something else, but you see, she never
expounded her views to me about her beliefs, but she did to lots of
Americans, you see, and they would ask me why? What does it mean? You
know, for some reason or other--and I would like this off the record.
Mr. JENNER. All right.
(At this point statement by the witness, Mr. Raigorodsky, to Counsel
Jenner off the record.)
Mr. JENNER. What is the reaction of the Russian community in Dallas to
the De Mohrenschildts, with particular reference to their political
views?
Mr. RAIGORODSKY. Well, the Russian community here, it was, you
say--"And political views?"
Mr. JENNER. The views separately of George De Mohrenschildt, and then
his wife, Jean.
Mr. RAIGORODSKY. Well, would you believe me if I tell you that
after all this time, I do not know the political views of George De
Mohrenschildt?
Mr. JENNER. Tell us about him, what kind of a person is he? He seems
from some of our information to be reckless, to make nonsense at times,
he appears to have traveled extensively in Europe, Mexico, Haiti, the
Dominican Republic; he is a man who has provoked or seems to seek to
provoke others into argument by making outlandish statements. We would
like to know something from you as a--if I may use the expression but
in a sense of compliment--a member of the "Old Guard," and you have had
some contact with this man for 17 years now--what is he or what makes
him tick?
He had contact with the Oswalds, we haven't yet talked with him, and
we are seeking to get all the information we can about this man, his
personality, his habits, his business interests, his contacts with
you--political views even if they are stated in supposed jest, and the
political views of his wife, Jeanne, who is tolerant? Is he just a
character?
Mr. RAIGORODSKY. That's a question. You see, talking about, and
believe me, that's the only time--first of all, I've got George De
Mohrenschildt to become a member of the Petroleum Club.
Mr. JENNER. What is the Petroleum Club?
Mr. RAIGORODSKY. It is the Petroleum Club, Dallas Petroleum Club.
Mr. JENNER. Did you seek to do it for him?
Mr. RAIGORODSKY. No.
Mr. JENNER. He was a man of grace at the club?
Mr. RAIGORODSKY. Very much so a man of grace, a man of breeding.
Mr. JENNER. And did he begin to move in a different social circle?
Mr. RAIGORODSKY. An entirely different social circle.
Mr. JENNER. And was that a social circle of Russian emigre, a certain
set of Russian emigre?
Mr. RAIGORODSKY. No, no, that's the thing which both churches have
against them. He belonged to the church, but he never sent in a
donation.
Mr. JENNER. He belonged to the church in the sense that when he felt
like coming, he came, but he never supported the church financially?
Mr. RAIGORODSKY. No, that's right, from that point. Politically he
never, and I can say honestly, not one time did he ever discuss with me
any political questions or give me his views except one time when he
went to take the trip--the walking trip.
Mr. JENNER. From the border of the United States and the Mexican border
down to Panama?
Mr. RAIGORODSKY. Right.
Mr. JENNER. Tell us the incident that you are about to relate?
Mr. RAIGORODSKY. Except one time, you see, except one time--he was
elated because he met Mikoyan in Mexico.
Mr. JENNER. And did he report this to you?
Mr. RAIGORODSKY. You know--just trying to show what--he always brags
about things--he was bragging about many things.
Mr. JENNER. Was he given to overstatements?
Mr. RAIGORODSKY. Very much so, and he brags about the fact that he
met Mr. Mikoyan, and this is not for publication, and I asked him why
didn't he shoot this b----d?