LIBERALS AND LIBERALISM.

_Question_. What do you think of the prospects of Liberalism in

this country?

_Answer_. The prospects of Liberalism are precisely the same as

the prospects of civilization--that is to say, of progress. As

the people become educated, they become liberal. Bigotry is the

provincialism of the mind. Men are bigoted who are not acquainted

with the thoughts of others. They have been taught one thing, and

have been made to believe that their little mental horizon is the

circumference of all knowledge. The bigot lives in an ignorant

village, surrounded by ignorant neighbors. This is the honest

bigot. The dishonest bigot may know better, but he remains a bigot

because his salary depends upon it. A bigot is like a country that

has had no commerce with any other. He imagines that in his little

head there is everything of value. When a man becomes an intellectual

explorer, an intellectual traveler, he begins to widen, to grow

liberal. He finds that the ideas of others are as good as and often

better than his own. The habits and customs of other people throw

light on his own, and by this light he is enabled to discover at

least some of his own mistakes. Now the world has become acquainted.

A few years ago, a man knew something of the doctrines of his own

church. Now he knows the creeds of others, and not only so, but

he has examined to some extent the religions of other nations. He

finds in other creeds all the excellencies that are in his own,

and most of the mistakes. In this way he learns that all creeds

have been produced by men, and that their differences have been

accounted for by race, climate, heredity--that is to say, by a

difference in circumstances. So we now know that the cause of

Liberalism is the cause of civilization. Unless the race is to be

a failure, the cause of Liberalism must succeed. Consequently, I

have the same faith in that cause that I have in the human race.

_Question_. Where are the most Liberals, and in what section of

the country is the best work for Liberalism being done?

_Answer_. The most Liberals are in the most intelligent section

of the United States. Where people think the most, there you will

find the most Liberals; where people think the least, you will find

the most bigots. Bigotry is produced by feeling--Liberalism by

thinking--that is to say, the one is a prejudice, the other a

principle. Every geologist, every astronomer, every scientist, is

doing a noble work for Liberalism. Every man who finds a fact,

and demonstrates it, is doing work for the cause. All the literature

of our time that is worth reading is on the liberal side. All the

fiction that really interests the human mind is with us. No one

cares to read the old theological works. Essays written by professors

of theological colleges are regarded, even by Christians, with a

kind of charitable contempt. When any demonstration of science is

attacked by a creed, or a passage of Scripture, all the intelligent

smile. For these reasons I think that the best work for Liberalism

is being done where the best work for science is being done--where

the best work for man is being accomplished. Every legislator that

assists in the repeal of theological laws is doing a great work

for Liberalism.

_Question_. In your opinion, what relation do Liberalism and

Prohibition bear to each other?

_Answer_. I do not think they have anything to do with each other.

They have nothing in common except this: The Prohibitionists, I

presume, are endeavoring to do what they can for temperance; so

all intelligent Liberals are doing what they can for the cause of

temperance. The Prohibitionist endeavors to accomplish his object

by legislation--the Liberalist by education, by civilization, by

example, by persuasion. The method of the Liberalist is good, that

of the Prohibitionist chimerical and fanatical.

_Question_. Do you think that Liberals should undertake a reform

in the marriage and divorce laws and relations?

_Answer_. I think that Liberals should do all in their power to

induce people to regard marriage and divorce in a sensible light,

and without the slightest reference to any theological ideas. They

should use their influence to the end that marriage shall be

considered as a contract--the highest and holiest that men and

women can make. And they should also use their influence to have

the laws of divorce based on this fundamental idea,--that marriage

is a contract. All should be done that can be done by law to uphold

the sacredness of this relation. All should be done that can be

done to impress upon the minds of all men and all women their duty

to discharge all the obligations of the marriage contract faithfully

and cheerfully. I do not believe that it is to the interest of

the State or of the Nation, that people should be compelled to live

together who hate each other, or that a woman should be bound to

a man who has been false and who refuses to fulfill the contract

of marriage. I do not believe that any man should call upon the

police, or upon the creeds, or upon the church, to compel his wife

to remain under his roof, or to compel a woman against her will to

become the mother of his children. In other words, Liberals should

endeavor to civilize mankind, and when men and women are civilized,

the marriage question, and the divorce question, will be settled.

_Question_. Should Liberals vote on Liberal issues?

_Answer_. I think that, other things being anywhere near equal,

Liberals should vote for men who believe in liberty, men who believe

in giving to others the rights they claim for themselves--that is

to say, for civilized men, for men of some breadth of mind. Liberals

should do what they can to do away with all the theological

absurdities.

_Question_. Can, or ought, the Liberals and Spiritualists to unite?

_Answer_. All people should unite where they have objects in

common. They can vote together, and act together, without believing

the same on all points. A Liberal is not necessarily a Spiritualist,

and a Spiritualist is not necessarily a Liberal. If Spiritualists

wish to liberalize the Government, certainly Liberals would be glad

of their assistance, and if Spiritualists take any step in the

direction of freedom, the Liberals should stand by them to that

extent.

_Question_. Which is the more dangerous to American institutions

--the National Reform Association (God-in-the-Constitution party)

or the Roman Catholic Church?

_Answer_. The Association and the Catholic Church are dangerous

according to their power. The Catholic Church has far more power

than the Reform Association, and is consequently far more dangerous.

The God-in-the-Constitution association is weak, fanatical, stupid,

and absurd. What God are we to have in the Constitution? Whose

God? If we should agree to-morrow to put God in the Constitution,

the question would then be: Which God? On that question, the

religious world would fall out. In that direction there is no

danger. But the Roman Catholic Church is the enemy of intellectual

liberty. It is the enemy of investigation. It is the enemy of

free schools. That church always has been, always will be, the

enemy of freedom. It works in the dark. When in a minority it is

humility itself--when in power it is the impersonation of arrogance.

In weakness it crawls--in power it stands erect, and compels its

victims to fall upon their faces. The most dangerous institution

in this world, so far as the intellectual liberty of man is concerned,

is the Roman Catholic Church. Next to that is the Protestant

Church.

_Question_. What is your opinion of the Christian religion and

the Christian Church?

_Answer_. My opinion upon this subject is certainly well known.

The Christian Church is founded upon miracles--that is to say, upon

impossibilities. Of course, there is a great deal that is good in

the creeds of the churches, and in the sermons delivered by its

ministers; but mixed with this good is much that is evil. My

principal objection to orthodox religion is the dogma of eternal

pain. Nothing can be more infamously absurd. All civilized men

should denounce it--all women should regard it with a kind of

shuddering abhorrence.

--_Secular Thought_, Toronto, Canada, 1888.

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