THOMAS WILSON, examined.
16,656. I am a weaver in Kirkwall. I was born in Fair Isle, and I
lived there till two years and nine months ago. There are between
thirty and forty families in Fair Island. They live chiefly by fishing
for cod, ling, and saith. They fish chiefly in summer. They have
always had to sell their fish to the proprietor, that being a
condition of their holding their farms. Their farms are from four
to six acres in extent, with a right to the scattald. I believe since I
left, they are not allowed to pasture their cattle on the scattald
without paying for it. The island belonged, when I first remember,
to Mr. Stewart of Brough, in Orkney, whose tacksmen were first
Mr. William Strachan, Dundee, and afterwards John Hewison,
Westray. Mr. Bruce bought the island about 1864. I remember for
about fifteen or twenty years before 1864. I am thirty-five years of
age. The people had to sell all their fish to Mr. Strachan and Mr.
Hewison. They were told so by them. It was always the custom to
sell their fish to the tacksman, who also kept a shop for the sale of
goods. There was always a shop, but sometimes no goods were in
it. I have seen it without meal for more than ten days, and then the
people had no resource but fish, or milk, or anything they could
get. That happened in summer. In winter the people always had a
supply of meal of their own. There are three or four water-mills
on the island, where the people grind their own meal. They are the
old-fashioned little mills usual in Shetland. When Mr. Bruce got
the property, the meal and goods generally became dearer than
they were before. I don't think we have ever wanted meal
altogether since he bought the island. We have had to send to
Sumburgh for it, but have generally got a supply before our meal
was quite done. Sometimes, however, it has been very scarce.
When Strachan and Hewison had the island, any one might come
to the island to trade; and sometimes James Rendall, of Westray,
and sometimes James Smith, Cunningsburgh, came with boats
bringing goods and meal. They sold about the same rates as
Hewison and Strachan. The reason why we ran short was, that we
could not got notice sent. The steamer did not use to stop for us
then, but now we get her to stop for a letter. We have had to sell
the fish to Mr. John Bruce, jun. and to him only, since Mr. Stewart
sold the island. The price of fish has been fixed by the man who
comes to settle, which is in June or July. That settlement is for the
previous year, up to the 1st of May immediately preceding. I have
seen them miss a year. I have been told that Mr. Bruce has missed
a year since I came to Kirkwall. There are very few pass-books.
The accounts are all read over to us. We couldn't always
remember everything we had got. I suppose we had just to take it
as it was. The factor on the island read over the accounts, and he
handed a note of the total to Mr. Bruce and Mr. Irvine, who came
to settle with us. We got cash if there was a balance in our favour,
but never in the course of the season. We never asked for money
during the season; it was no use to ask for it, for we would not get
it. I don't remember if any one ever asked for it. We could
sometimes buy from Rendall, who is the only person that has come
to trade there since Mr. Bruce bought the island. Since Mr. Bruce
came, he has not had liberty to trade; and he erected a stage on the
seashore, and people bought from him there. Formerly he and
Smith carried on their trade in the house where they lodged. I
suppose Mr. Bruce had forbidden that; at least all the people
understood so. They used to lodge with Mrs. Thomas Wilson, near
the shore. Rendall's prices were always a good deal lower than
the prices at the shop. Their tea and sugar were cheaper. Mr.
Bruce has tea at 11d., and I remember once at 15d. a quarter;
Rendall's was 10d. or 11d. sometimes, I think, as low as 9d. There
was not very much difference in the tea. Rendall always had sugar
at 6d., common grey sugar; Mr. Bruce's was regularly 7d. I
remember [Page 425] Mr Bruce once had loaf sugar at 1d. per oz.,
or 14d. a lb., about 1867. I don't remember his having loaf sugar
in the shop at all at any other time. Rendall's sugar, I think, was
9d. Cottons were bought cheaper from Rendall. His were 10d or
11d., blue and white shirting: Mr Bruce's 1s., or once 16d. The
prices did not vary much at Mr Bruce's store from year to year. I
remember quite well the price of oatmeal in Fair Isle during my
last year there. I paid 30s. a boll. I sometimes got the price when I
got it, sometimes only when I settled. I think I knew the price that
year only when I settled. The account was sent to me that year
after I had left, and 17s. of balance due to me was remitted. I
know meal was that year 23s. or 24s. a boll in Kirkwall. Mr
Alexander Gibson, merchant, told me so as I came down here. I
have the account which was sent to me, in which the total amount
of the shop account is entered to my debit (£9, 13s. 4d.). The entry
'By amount from the 'Lessing' account, £6, 17s. 9d.,' which is put
to my credit, means payment for lodging to workmen, and for
work done by myself at the wreck of the 'Lessing' on Fair Isle.
The owners or insurers, I suppose, were the employers of the men
who worked at the wreck; but the money came through Mr Bruce.
'By cash, left as a deposit, 11th May 1868, £3,' was money I was
fool enough to leave in Mr Bruce's hands at previous settlement at
his request. I left it in his hands as my banker. I can't remember
buying meal from Rendall on any particular occasion that I could
specify. But I know I have bought it from him cheaper than I
could get it at the shop. I got it from Rendall at 26s., and I am
quite sure, that during the 4 or 5 years I was on the island under
Mr Bruce, I never got meal at the store for less than 30s. I
remember his (Rendall's) selling goods at night; but that was for
his own purposes:-to get his away as soon as he could. I think I
have heard of him selling goods at night one time when Mr Bruce
and Mr Irvine were there, when they were asleep, but I can't give
any distinct statement about that. In 1868, James Williamson,
Kirkwall had men working at the wreck of the 'Lessing,' which he
had bought. His meal was cheaper than that at the store. I had to
buy some of Williamson's as there was then none at the store.
That was in July. I was employed by Mr. Wilson, the factor, in
quarrying for a store Mr. Bruce was building. That was settled in
the account at the end of the year. All work was so settled I have
already shown. It is the entry 'By work with P. M'Gregor, at 1s a
day, 13s 7d.'
Six families left Fair Isle, and came to Kirkwall in 1869. We all
left because meal was so dear, and wages were so low. They all
left of their own accord. I am sure they all left of their own
accord, and were not warned away by the landlord. About
100 people left, in my remembrance, for America in 1862.
Government helped them. There had been a great scarcity before
that. In general, there is always a scarcity some part of the year.
They live mostly on tea, and porridge, and oatmeal cakes. In
summer there is a little flour sometimes. They get plenty of fish
generally in winter, chiefly by fishing from the rocks. [Being
asked if he had anything more to say, depones:] Only about the
beach fee in the account already shown. I got only the £3 for the
whole half year I worked there. I wrought 22 weeks and a half,
and I was to get 5s. a week; but he said because I left the work to
work at the 'Lessing' I should get no more. I wrote about it to Mr.
Bruce, who wanted a detailed account of my work, which I gave
him; but I got no definite answer. When Williamson was working
at the 'Lessing,' he was not allowed by the laird to employ men
Fair Isle. The landlord or his factor said they would be put out if
they worked to him. I was forbidden to work to him myself. Mr.
Wilson and Mr. Irvine both forbade me to work to him. I was told
I would have to leave the island if I did. I was intending to go, and
did go, and am glad I goed [sic]. I have been far better off since I
left. I have had better wages, better food, and less work since.
The other people from Fair Isle who are here, would say the same,
I believe. I think Fair Isle people would be better off, if they had
liberty to buy and sell with any person they choose.
Kirkwall, February 8, 1872, MARY DUNCAN or QUIN, examined.
16,657. I live in Kirkwall. I was born in Lerwick, and lived there
till 7 years ago. I have knitted for 20 years all sorts of articles of
hosiery. I knitted both with my own wool, and for the merchants.
I was always paid in goods. I never got a penny in money. I was
not much in need of it. I often earned 9s. or 10s. in a week when
veils were dear; but generally less than that. I knew many women
who depended entirely on knitting for a living; and they had to
take the goods and sell them for half-price, to any one who was
requiring them. It was sometimes not easy to find people who
would buy. They had just to ask among their friends if there was
any one who wanted the things they had. I know James Coutts,
provision merchant, used to take the goods from knitters. I knew
many people who gave them to him for tea and sugar, and
sometimes meal. I have been in his shop when such transactions
were carried on. I don't know if Robert Irvine dealt in that way. I
know Betty Morrison. I know that knitters disposed of their goods
to her. I have seen her come to my mother's house with tea and
sugar for sale. I knew they were from parties who had been
knitters to Mr. Linklater and other merchants. She told us who the
tea was from, so that we knew quite well it had been got from
some one who had been knitting. Sometimes, too, she would tell
who it belonged to. We always got it cheaper than it had been sold
in the shop. It was always dearer in these shops than in others,
sometimes 15d. a quarter, and we got it from Betty Morrison for
10d. That was very common. Jean Yates, and dozens of others,
hawked about goods got from knitters in the same way. I had to
buy a great deal more dress than I needed, because I could get
nothing else for it. Knitters have all plenty of clothes. Some of
them I know have far more clothes than food. I always sell my
knitting for money here.
[Shown veil got from Grace Slater, February 5.] I would get
2s. 6d. in goods for that, when knitted with my own wool. Seven
years ago, and 3 years ago, when I was home, 1s. or 1s. 4d. in
goods, according to the market, would have been paid at Lerwick
to one who knitted such a veil with merchant's wool.
[Shown veil from E. Malcomson, February 5.] I would get 1s.
6d. for the veil, wool and all, here.
Kirkwall, February 8, 1872, THOMAS PEACE, examined.
16,658. I am a partner of the firm of Peace & Love, drapers,
Kirkwall. I deal considerably in Shetland hosiery, mostly bought
in Shetland. I get most from merchants, and a little from private
parties, knitters, who meet me at Lerwick. I go there annually. I
pay both in cash. I don't get any cheaper, or very little cheaper,
from the knitters than from the merchants. I have bought as cheap
from the shops as I can buy from knitters. I have no means of
knowing whether merchants in Lerwick make any profit on the
hosiery. I have been told I was getting goods in the shops at the
same price they were bought in at. I never saw the goods bought
in. I found knitters in Lerwick eager to sell to me rather than to
the merchants there. They at first asked me 50 per cent. more than
I could buy the articles in the shops. I told them they were for
sale. I have had so much difficulty with them in fixing a price that
I now buy the most of my goods from the merchants.
I think a cash system would be much better for parties. I don't
think it would affect my business as a [Page 426] purchaser from
the wholesale dealers in Lerwick. I think it would be better for the
knitters if they got clear with the merchants. I think most of them
are in debt to the merchant's shops. Any system would be better
than running accounts from one year to another, and from the
beginning of one's life to the end.
<Adjourned>