Mr. PENA. Yes; so when the----

Mr. LIEBELER. Was that shortly after the assassination?

Mr. PENA. Yes. So I told him just like I tell you. Then they start

coming, and over and over and over, and then I told the same thing what

I knew about, and that's all I know about.

Mr. LIEBELER. Now did you ever see Oswald at any other time?

Mr. PENA. No; I didn't.

Mr. LIEBELER. Did you ever see the man who was with him at any other

time?

Mr. PENA. The man that was with him looked Spanish; more Cuban than

anything else. You are American. You might know your people. I am

Cuban. I can sight them. I don't think I am being mistaken about him,

about Cuban people. I can spot them when I see them that they might be

a Cuban.

Mr. LIEBELER. You thought this man might be a Cuban?

Mr. PENA. To me, I thought he was a Cuban. I can tell that is true. I

wasn't even too close to him.

Mr. LIEBELER. You were never too close to this man?

Mr. PENA. No.

Mr. LIEBELER. Did you see Oswald clearly enough to be absolutely sure

in your mind that it was Oswald in the bar?

Mr. PENA. Yes.

Mr. LIEBELER. Did you ever see this Cuban-looking man that was with him

at any other time or any other place?

Mr. PENA. No. See, after--that was before the assassination of Mr.

Kennedy--there was an incident in my place. Two guys came. They said

they were Mexican. They didn't look like Mexicans. They looked more

like Cubans. They came to my place. I got a bongo with a chain. I got

two bongoes for the people to play that with the music. I got a chain

because I lose one of them one time. Maybe some guy was drunk. That's

why I put a chain on it so they can't take it away. I was fixing the

bongo on that day and they came in. They came to see me. They said,

"That's what you have to have here in this country, a chain?" I was mad

because one of the customers broke the bongo. I said, "What you mean

by that?" When I got mad, I got a little bit--I don't know--aggressive

by the way I speak. So I told them, "What you mean by that?" They

said, "Well, in this country you have to put a chain?" I said, "That's

so they don't take the bongo away." They said, "This is a democratic

country?" I said, "Where you come from?" He said, "I come from Mexico."

I said, "Don't tell me about Mexico; you take a car to Mexico, they

steal the four wheels away." So right away they saw me mad, so they

left, so I called the--I think I called the FBI and told them about

it. I told them where they walk, which way they walked. They say, "If

they come back to your place, call us again." I just forgot about it. I

never saw them no more.

Mr. LIEBELER. Did you call the FBI yourself, do you remember that?

Mr. PENA. Yes, sir.

Mr. LIEBELER. Why did you call the FBI about these men?

Mr. PENA. I don't like it, the way they were, the way they spoke about

the country here, so--I didn't like it, so I called the FBI.

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