Mr. ANDREWS. The one facing, standing as you look at it.
Mr. LIEBELER. That's the one you can't identify?
Mr. ANDREWS. Yes; I have her file in the office. Uncle is a warden at
the Parish Prison here in New Orleans.
Mr. LIEBELER. And you are referring to the three women that are
standing at the right side of Pizzo Exhibit No. 453-B?
Mr. ANDREWS. The girl carrying the pocketbook.
Mr. LIEBELER. That's the one whose name you can't remember at the
moment?
Mr. ANDREWS. Right.
Mr. LIEBELER. Now this little fellow standing on the far left side of
the picture, have you ever seen him before? Is he one of those gay boys
who were in the office?
Mr. ANDREWS. No; these were all Americanos, these boys. He may be, but
he is Latin looking.
Mr. LIEBELER. He looks like a Latin?
Mr. ANDREWS. Right. This boy should be able to be found. I wanted to
look for him, but I didn't have a picture of him.
Mr. LIEBELER. Who is that?
Mr. ANDREWS. The one you just asked me about. If you put some circulars
around to have the Latin American people squeezed gently, he has got to
be found. They are very clannish. There are only certain places they
go. Somebody has to remember him. He can't just come into New Orleans
and disappear. As long as he walks the street, he has to eat and he
has to have some place to sleep and--but I didn't have a picture of
him, and nobody--you just can't do it. But a lot of water has run under
the stream. He may or may not be here, but it wouldn't be too hard to
locate him, you know, with the proper identification.
Mr. LIEBELER. Well, your friends down the street have been trying to
find him and haven't come up with him yet.
Mr. ANDREWS. Debrueys?
Mr. LIEBELER. Yes.
Mr. ANDREWS. Sometimes the stools on that are not too good. They need
Latin stools for that boy.
Mr. LIEBELER. Off the record.
(Discussion off the record.)
Mr. LIEBELER. Did you just indicate that you would like to find Mr.
Bertrand and he did run off? Did you see him run off?
Mr. ANDREWS. Yes; I chased him, but I couldn't go.
Mr. LIEBELER. This was when you saw him 6 weeks ago?
Mr. ANDREWS. Yes; this barroom is right adjacent to--the street--as you
go in, there are two entrances, one on the block side and one on the
corner. I had no more idea of finding him than jumping off the bridge.
I went in there hoping, and the hope came through. I was so surprised
to see him there. I kept working my way there to go to the front when
he recognized me and he sprinted out the door on the side of the street
and was gone. I had to go past him to go to the phone. I should have
conked him with the beer bottle.
Mr. LIEBELER. He took off as soon as he saw you?
Mr. ANDREWS. No; but I was moving to go to the phone. He thought I was
moving towards him.
Mr. LIEBELER [handing picture to witness]. I show you Pizzo Exhibit No.
453-A, and ask you if you can recognize anybody in that picture.
Mr. ANDREWS. The one that has a brief case under his arm, full face
towards the looker, appears to be Lee Oswald. This boy back here
[indicating] appears to be familiar, but I would have to blow his face
up to be sure. He is in between. See, this one here [indicating]? I
have never seen this picture before.
Mr. LIEBELER. Between Oswald, who has the cross mark over his head, and
the man who has the arrow over his head?
Mr. ANDREWS. He is a local boy here, a face I recall. It would take me
a while to place it, but the face appears to be familiar.
Mr. LIEBELER. You haven't seen this picture before, is that correct?
Mr. ANDREWS. I don't believe.
Mr. LIEBELER. The Secret Service and the FBI have shown you various
pictures, but you don't recall this one?
Mr. ANDREWS. I don't recall seeing that one. There was one of a series
where--one of an attorney in town was there--where we all knew him.
They may have shown me this, but I don't remember. We used to have a
club back in 1946 called Lock (?) Fraternity, and he resembles a boy
that was a member.
Mr. LIEBELER. I don't think I have any more questions, Mr. Andrews.
I want to thank you very much for coming in and I appreciate the
cooperation you have given us.
Mr. ANDREWS. I only wish I could do better.