Mrs. OSWALD. I don't remember what day----

Mr. McKENZIE. It was after it was published in the Dallas Morning News.

Mr. LIEBELER. Am I correct in stating that the transaction was

negotiated between representatives of Life magazine and your attorney,

Mr. William A. McKenzie? An attorney here in Dallas?

*Mrs. OSWALD. Yes.

Mr. LIEBELER. I have no more questions.

*Mrs. OSWALD. Thank you.

Mr. McKENZIE. I have a couple of questions. Marina, there is a

difference, is there not, in your mind between a Marxist and a

Communist?

*Mrs. OSWALD. What?

Mrs. OSWALD. I never was interested in this so I don't know--it makes

me no difference.

Mr. McKENZIE. A Communist ordinarily is known as a party member; is

that correct?

Mrs. OSWALD. A Communist does not necessarily have to be a member of

the party. People that believe in communism do not necessarily have a

party card. The fact is that a Communist is not necessarily a member of

the party. He may be a Communist by his choice but not necessarily a

member of the party.

Mr. McKENZIE. Well, Lee was a Marxist by his choice; is that correct?

Mrs. OSWALD. I don't know what he thought.

Mr. McKENZIE. That's all.

Mrs. OSWALD. I think he was just a sick person. He didn't know himself

what he was.

Mr. LIEBELER. Mrs. Oswald, as we discussed this morning, we want to go

out to Irving and all look at the store and see if it refreshes your

recollection as to whether or not you were there, so at this time we

will adjourn the deposition, to be resumed out at the location of this

store in Irving, if that is agreeable with counsel for Mrs. Oswald.

Mr. McKENZIE. It is agreeable.

(At this point the proceedings of this deposition were adjourned and

Messrs. Liebeler and McKenzie, Marina Oswald, the Reporter, Odell

Oliver, and Secret Service Agents John Joe Howlett and Forrest Sorrels

in charge of the Dallas Secret Service office traveled to Irving,

walked through the store heretofore referred to, departed the same and

while standing in front of the store the following proceedings were

had:)

Mr. LIEBELER. Let the record show that we are resuming the deposition

in front of 149 East Irving Boulevard, Irving, Tex., and the record

will indicate that Mr. McKenzie and Mrs. Oswald, Mr. Sorrels and Mr.

Howlett, the Court Reporter and I walked inside of the building here

at 149 East Irving Boulevard and walked around inside and outside,

and this is at 3:45 p.m., in an effort to refresh Mrs. Oswald's

recollection as to whether or not she has ever been in this store.

Mr. LIEBELER. Have you had a chance to go through the store, Marina?

*Mrs. OSWALD. No; this is the first time.

Mr. LIEBELER. This is the first time you have been here?

*Mrs. OSWALD. Yes.

Mr. LIEBELER. And you have now looked at the outside of the store and

looked through the inside?

*Mrs. OSWALD. Yes.

Mr. LIEBELER. And you are quite sure you have never been here before?

*Mrs. OSWALD. I'm sure I never was here before--I am quite sure.

Mr. LIEBELER. You are sure of that in spite of the testimony that you

heard this morning from Mrs. Whitworth and Mrs. Hunter; is that right?

*Mrs. OSWALD. Yes; that's right. She told how I was dressed with a rose

jacket--that's true I had a rose jacket.

Mr. LIEBELER. She may have seen you somewhere?

*Mrs. OSWALD. Yes; but I never was here--maybe she saw me on the street

somewhere. She said it looked like she saw me someplace else and that's

the reason why I wanted to see this store, but maybe I have forgotten

by now----

Mr. LIEBELER. You are now standing directly in front of the store at

149 East Irving Boulevard, aren't you?

*Mrs. OSWALD. Yes.

Mr. LIEBELER. And you are sure you have never been here before?

*Mrs. OSWALD. No; I have never been here before.

Mr. LIEBELER. Do you have anything to add, Mr. McKenzie?

Mr. McKENZIE. No.

*Mrs. OSWALD. I don't know if I were inside this store, but I don't

recall it now.

Mr. LIEBELER. You don't recognize this store as a place you have ever

been before?

*Mrs. OSWALD. No.

Mr. LIEBELER. I have no further questions, and this will adjourn the

deposition.

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